For Gamblers Only

I'm curious. Would you pay to enter a new style of casino, where all the games are freeplay but have large pots? You don't actually wager anything with each game, but you must pay to enter.

I have a sneaking suspicion LL would still consider that to be a violation of the gambling policy, as you can't win the pot unless you pay money.

The thing is, there is no wager. Picture it: you have to pay a cover charge to get in to play any game you wanted. All the games have pots. You don't pay per game... and you are not limited to playing one game. You enter and play to your heart's content. Basically, it's like having a freeplay place, but forcing people to buy a pass to get in.

Sounds like you're trying to go down a private members club type route and I'm not sure you'll get away with it.

Pecan pie please..... mmmmmmmmmm

I voted for pie - and it's fattening!

Nothing private about it. The "buy pass" land option is something that is rarely used, but it's out there. Buy a pass, you get in, play to your heart's content. You aren't actually wagering anything. You're getting access to the land.

still pay to play with random number payouts so banned

Which is how a private members club works, you buy a membership to get in. I don't think you'll get away with it. The Lindens are a bit twitchy about the gambling issue.

It's not pay to play, it's pay to enter. Technically it's a workaround. I just don't see LL allowing it though.

The important thing to remember is that LL is not going to toe the line on this issue. They don't want to pay even more money for lawyers to argue the case to the FBI or the credit card companies. If something could possibly be construed as violating the law or the CC company policies, they won't allow it.

Because you have no chance of winning the pots unless you pay money, it could be construed as gambling.

I think of it more like going to Disneyland. Buy access, go and play to your heart's content.

Of course they'd be twitchy but that isn't the point. For the record, I have no intent to build such a place. But I was curious to see if the idea had any traction among those that actually do gamble. If it was deemed legal, and I think it is, it could be a viable business model. But of course, that is just my opinion. It might be viable for other places, the ones that are already established, to convert their businesses into something that passes muster and not take a complete loss.

I would not look at this as gambling, rather the ultimate camping place in sl, you pay to get in and get your money back+more if you spend enough time, the only question is if it would be profitable without serious rigging.

And a message for the people that hate innovation:

Thank to you sudoku is now banned, simple devices that take 1L$ to play for a freebie are also banned. Hmm i wonder if you could convince them to ban chess aswell, that'd be damn great wouldnt it ?

Get over it.
Gambling in SL is done
It’s not coming back anytime soon
You’re just wasting electrons.

I am glad it’s gone
It was an eyesore
It was a major cause and customer of ad farms
It increases scams from residents who were desperate for more money to gamble with.
Most of the money was a sink from the economy and did little to help the creators and merchants.
It encouraged camping
It gamed the traffic system
It killed dwell
It is a rip off
It was a scam
It’s immoral
Unregulated, it’s illegal, in most Countries.
It’s a foolish waste of money
It’s addictive.
It eats the souls of babies and kills kittens.

I am tired of hearing about it.

Get over it.
So my question is “when are you going to get a SL?”

I don't think it would be legal, but who knows. I believe this is why game pieces at fast food restaurants, and just about any other sweepstakes-type contest, have the disclaimer -- No Purchase Necessary. That's because, if they forced people to play for a chance to win McDonald's Monopoly, then it could be interpretted as a form of gambling.

You would need to offer free entry, but make the process very difficult (require real photo ID and, certified snail-mail, etc... I think if you honestly allow a form of free entry, then you would be safe (though still subject to LL determinations).

Most of your claims are completely false, but since you're so smart can you explain to me why sudoku is banned ?

Most of my claims are completely True.

Because its the Policy of Linden Lab. <== that is the smart answer

I suggest you file a support ticket and ask them why.

so answer my question - “when are you going to get a SL?”

Since when?

Why should someone offer free entry? Who says that the money goes to the pot? People have to pay tier. Probably pay salaries too. It's a fine line, but it's all about access to the land. From there, no purchase is necessary.

I dont think just regular sudoku is banned.....

But I did see a sudoku game on SLEX that has a Hud and it has gambling option to it.

you might want to check the sticky thread about removed games for more info

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the real problem with this setup is the fact that people wouldnt actually have to pay to enter. they could stand outside on a neighbouring parcel, cam in, and play to their hearts content.

Make it a nightclub instead that just happens to have freeplay games inside.

Nothing wrong with charging someone to enter your night club.

I have already had this discussion as I want to do something similar but just for fun not profit.

I'd pay to try it out...mainly because it will piss off the gambling is bad whinners on the forums

There is one problem that i see with your concept.

No matter how you slice it or dice it or describe, it if you have to pay to get in to play you're still paying in, maybe not directly to the individual machine that you are going to play, on the "chance" that you will win some kind of payout at one of the machines.

Key word there is "chance" and that would cause it to fall under the policy.

If I charged you $10L to enter my property and you get to play some of the most enjoyable games created in SL for 3 hours and also get the chance of winning daily and weekly pots (funded from my stipend and possibly advertising as $300L a week isn't very much) with no risk (apart from $10L to enter which is for the entertainment not the chance to win),

Do you think that is fair?