Refresh my memory.....what was the deal for land in adult?

What was the deal that LL was making to send adult businesses to Zindra? Was it an even trade or did you get to keep your old land and sell it, and still get free land there?

The reason im asking is we ran into a group that got land there, and also was allowed to keep their old land and sell it too. I personally want my free land as well if this is the case..so does anyone know for sure??

Where is My new free land I pay tier on 1 1/2 sims.

As far as I know, if you run an adult business that had to move, you were offered a swap to Zindra. Those not wishing to give up their old land could also buy on Zindra.

Why would they have given people free land?

i dunno either, thats what this group told us, as they did not want to move their adult business, and LL made them a deal. Doesn't seem quite fair to the others that moved and didn't get the same deal.

The deal was that you got the land on Zindra for free and could either keep the old land, abandon it, or sell it. Blondin was asked about this a few times at various office hours, where he grumbled a bit about how selling the old land wasn't really in keeping with the spirit of things but agreed there was nothing to stop you from selling the old land if you wanted to, which a lot of people did.

ahhh good to know, Innula, i had never heard that, am sure its not really common knowledge LL wanted us to know. Thank you for setting me straight.

So in other words anyone in SL could of got free land and sold there old land? Why did I not know about this deal, I would love to have a 1000 USA bucks sim for free.

Sound to me like alot of us were just ripped off.

Only those of you that didn't read the announcements.

Pep (or couldn't understand them.)

PS Cinda, it *was* common knowledge. And it is officially too late to get the deal now.

My understanding was slightly different. I understood that you could get the free land in Zindra, and keep the old land for a fixed period (a month, I think), durting which time you could sell it. But if you still owned at the end of that time, LL would take it from you.

I didn't follow all the dialogues about it, but that what I'd understood.

it was a farce, period

Not quite. When you filed the land move request you elected to either retain or abandon the old land. If you chose to abandon, LL would take it back at the end of the transition period (I'm not sure how long that was, a month or something). If you chose to retain it, you were free to do as you please, including selling it, paying tier on it at the end of the transition period... or even abandoning it, I guess.

Free land is overrated, the tier is costing way more than the land value.

It's like being offered a second free Hummer for evryone you buy by a fuel company

People with advertised adult content, and who applied for a swap, got assigned an equivalent area of Land in Zindra during the swap phase.

There was no tier payable on the Zindra land up to a given date,
After that date, tier became payable as normal.
That was entirely reasonable, as people needed to have content on both the new and old land during the transition phase. As LL were forcing the move, it would not have been reasonable to collect tier on the Zindra land.

The application ticket for the swap had a field to indicate whether the old land was to be retained or taken by LL.
LL were happy for people to keep the land as otherwise the tier payments for that land would cease until LL got around to selling it at auction.

Even though the initial spirit of the rules was that the old land would either be retained or abandoned, it became clear that LL had no real objections to people selling the old land. It ensured that there was no break in tier payments.

It was crazy, but yeah: if you qualified for the "swap" by having public Adult content on your Mainland parcel (listed in Search, etc., etc.), you could request the Zindra land *and* keep the old land, or you could tell LL to dispose of it. If you kept it, you could indeed sell it, give it away, abandon it, etc. There was an interval (at least a month, it seemed... timelines kept slipping) during which no tier was charged on the Zindra land, so you could migrate the Adult content over there, set up a landmark-giver on the old site, or whatever. It would have been possible, then, to sell the old land and pocket the take without ever getting a tier bump.

I say it was crazy, but not from LL's perspective. They were surely hoping that the total land paying tier would grow more or less one-for-one with the amount of land added on Zindra. If they'd forced the "swap" to really be a swap, they'd have so much abandoned-for-Zindra Mainland that they'd still be running it through the auctions, and it still wouldn't be generating tier.

Yes, in the more macro scheme of things, they *do* still have a bubble of abandoned parcels from that time, and they're still rippling through the auction system, but better a ripple than a flood.

What happened instead was that a lot of land got dumped on the market for whatever price it could fetch before the Zindra tier kicked-in. That, of course, depressed prices on the Mainland--and on Zindra, presumably, but LL is surely better off with an unimpeded flow of tier, even if their auction properties don't fetch quite as much.

Not necessarily. There are people who don't own the full amount of land for the tier they are paying. I'm one. I pay for a full sim, but I have a few k spare capacity.

And why would that be a problem, since you already have the Hummer?

Zindra is good if you want a place for a residence that is unlikely to have any copybotters or griefers coming by. And if you got a good spot you got double prims for the same tier. Great for studios. I have actually considered dropping the island and just having an xstreet store with a small showroom on Zindra. All I need to make to cover that is L$10,000 a month.

LL is doing a great job at causing customers to cut back on what they pay them.

I own land on Zindra. While I know there are some double prim places there, mine isn't double prim. And while I know about the double prim issue, I didn't know about it before I bought my land.

Well if our wife starts driving the second one, it's not going to be easy on the budget

True, but I was more thinking the people who would take equal plot sizes to their existing stores, hence possibly doubling their land ownership.

Even if you sell it for scrap (sell to land bots) you're still ahead of the game.

The weirdest land on Zindra is the single-primmed "city" stuff that forbids terraforming and join/subdivide. To compensate, you get to watch vehicles eaten by sim-border roads, bask in the eerie llGlow of curb-embedded streetlights, and shield yourself from the light emitted by radioactive potted trees. What's not to like?

I can't be bothered to dig back through all the meeting transcripts -- attending almost all the damn things was bad enough -- but the original idea was that you wouldn't need to start paying tier on the Zindra land for the first month, and if you didn't want the land at the end of the month you could, sell it, give it back to LL or keep it and pay tier on both. In the event, LL didn't start charging tier for a couple of months after the deadline (I can't remember when this kicked in) and you weren't supposed to sell the new, Zindra, land until they started charging tier. However, despite Blondin grumbling a bit, there was never anything to stop you disposing of the old Mainland however you wanted to.

The policy did change several times, of course, but I am certain there was never a time you couldn't sell the old land if you wanted to.

wellll in a sim next to ours, as of last weekend they got offered that deal, they sold the land and moved to zindra, said they were made that offerl to "sweeten" the deal, since they reallllllly didnt want to move their escort club in the first place.

So the deal must be still on, id like to contact whomever is making those deals and find a nice place in zindra, and either sell what we have in the mainland, and or sell zindra and keep what we have, either way, its one heck of a way to clear some fast profit.

Well, LL still has Zindra land waiting to be auctioned, and I guess we could imagine them giving somebody with a lot of Adult content a special arrangement even this long past the deadline if there was a credible story for how they could miss all the original deadlines. I should think it would have to be one hell of a story at this point, and LL would be inspecting sim history to be sure all that naughty content was around back in the spring when all this was going down.