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what 'low prim' means to you?

Qie Niangao
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09-22-2008 08:22
Marketing idea: Zero-prim furniture. Just distribute the animations, and buyers can put them in their chims to share with visitors. Call it The Emperor's New Furniture.

FWIW, I'd be inclined to avoid the "low prim" label anyway. Just give the primcount, as others have suggested, and let the buyer figure out if it's in-budget or not. I know there are people who buy or search based on something just being called "low-prim" and you'd lose those customers, but there are probably an equal number of (well-heeled) customers who'll be prejudiced against anything called "low prim", so unless the whole store is targeted to the low prim market, it's probably a wash.
Cristalle Karami
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09-22-2008 08:38
To me, "low prim" means that it is efficient for use on a 512 lot.

A 512 should be able to sustain at least 80 prims for furniture, if done with some measure of efficiency, if not better than that. 80 prims should support at least two room sets for a house to feel "lived in" - typically, living room and bedroom. So a living room set should not take up more than 40 prims, but 25 to 30 would be better for all the items enumerated.
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Iyoba Tarantal
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09-22-2008 08:47
If you want to look for ultra low prim houses there is one for free on SLX that's six prims. Also search yurt since this style of house is low prim. I built my own yurt and it's eight prims. It's not hard to make single prim furniture. I did two garden benches that were single prim and sleeping platform that was two prims (one for the platform and one for the pose pillow). I have a single prim table and stool and another single prim stool. I used sculpties for the table and one stool. The original stool, my first ever build, is a piece of a cilendar or torus. I have a 512 parcel and I wanted a garden as well as a house. I still have 50 prims left too. If there's a 512 showcase, I'd like very much to be in it.
Lear Cale
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09-22-2008 09:03
From: Rika Watanabe
In my opinion, saying something is 'low prim' and not giving a full prim count later is more damning than overshooting my arbitrary 'low' threshold.


Bingo. It's all relative, anyway. A set that looks obviously low-prim better have a much lower count. A set that looks highly detailed and cleverly styled but comes in under 40 would qualify.

While I believe that sculpties can reduce prim count, I haven't seen much yet that I'd be willing to live with, where they were used to reduce prim count rather than to simply make the prims look substantially better. I want my furniture to continue to look like furniture from across a large room.
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Rika Watanabe
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09-22-2008 09:17
From: Lear Cale
While I believe that sculpties can reduce prim count, I haven't seen much yet that I'd be willing to live with, where they were used to reduce prim count rather than to simply make the prims look substantially better. I want my furniture to continue to look like furniture from across a large room.


Both definitely can be done. I have a bathroom sink with a tap that is only three prims, and looks like a bathroom sink when zoomed out to the max - with pipes underneath and all. Unfortunately it requires quite a bit more skill in working with sculpties than just following a tutorial to make something of the sort, let alone deal properly with sculptie LOD, so that kind of a find is rare.
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Desmond Shang
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09-22-2008 09:56
From: Lindal Kidd
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You set a high bar, Guvnah!


I was a content creator, once :) Been working with autocad and similar professionally, off and on, since the early '90's. So if you know how sculpties work you can do amazing, amazing, amazing things with them. The rarity is bringing competent sculptie shapers and competent texturers together.

Some people already manage this; Phil in the thread here, Hypatia Callisto, Aminom Marvin are good examples.

I'd been tempted to give a business like Phil's a try someday (probably not furniture though), but I've got plenty going on with my own gig.
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Damien1 Thorne
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09-22-2008 10:15
From: Desmond Shang
I'd been tempted to give a business like Phil's a try someday (probably not furniture though), but I've got plenty going on with my own gig.

Great idea. You could set up Victorian era work house and keep noobs busy churning out your creations. :p
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Desmond Shang
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09-22-2008 10:22
From: Damien1 Thorne
Great idea. You could set up Victorian era work house and keep noobs busy churning out your creations. :p


I would! But Elanthius is beating me to it:

/327/0a/283086/1.html

Drat! Foiled again!
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Phil Deakins
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09-22-2008 10:25
From: Desmond Shang
I would! But Elanthius is beating me to it:

/327/0a/283086/1.html

Drat! Foiled again!
Ha! That thread was the first thing that sprang to my mind when I read Damien1's post :)
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Prawnyloks Parker
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09-22-2008 13:10
From: Cristalle Karami
To me, "low prim" means that it is efficient for use on a 512 lot.

I have to agree here. Either a 512 or 1024 lot. That's what most newbies will be looking for.

So personally I'd be aiming to make a living room set somewhere in the region of 20 prims.
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Czari Zenovka
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09-22-2008 14:28
From: Kitty Barnett
Low "low prim" furniture always just tends to look like it's rather obvious someone skimped on prims to me, rather than make it look all good, which is just not at all my taste.

Under 20 for an individual furniture piece, or 40-60 prims for a lounge suite will be low-prim to me (not in the sense that it should advertised as such but just that most of what I like tends to be 20-50 prims/piece).


It depends a lot on the style of furniture (I've yet to see really low prim Victorian for example just due to its intricacy) and the skill of the builder.

I think I mentioned this in another thread, but I was looking to purchase a prefab for my shop and at the time only had 512 sqm to work with so was looking for a nice "non-boxy" build with some details but low on prims. I was about to give up then ran across this builder who had an awesome 2-story shop, complete with heavy wood shutters that opened and closed. And it was something like 10 - 15 prims...something like that. Others that had similar features were in the 50 prim or more zone.

I asked how she managed to keep the prims so low and she said - "It's all in the math and texturing."

I do agree I don't like low prim furnishings that scream "I'm low prim" - but then some styles of furniture, like retro and some contemporary look great low prim.
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Czari Zenovka
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09-22-2008 14:33
From: Lindal Kidd
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You set a high bar, Guvnah!


I took a class awhile back that was 6 pieces of furniture for 6 prims and some of it (meaning my building interpretation of it...lol) looked fairly decent. No sculpties either. I took the class mainly to see how it was done. :)
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Czari Zenovka
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09-22-2008 14:37
From: Qie Niangao
Marketing idea: Zero-prim furniture. Just distribute the animations, and buyers can put them in their chims to share with visitors. Call it The Emperor's New Furniture.


*sighs dramatically as another perfectly good Pepsi is washed off the monitor*
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09-22-2008 17:21
55 prims or less is low prim to me for a living room set.
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Leslie Trihey
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09-22-2008 17:31
Depends, if its furniture 50 prims are low prim In my opinion.
If its a building, 10-100 is low prim.
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