what 'low prim' means to you?

if i were to advertise a 'low prim' lounge suite, what would you consider low prim?
assuming the suite is made up of:
1 sofa
1 loveseat
1 coffee table
1 end table
1 lamp
1 potted plant

20ish prims?
40?
60?

what does 'low prim' mean to you?
does a sofa really need to be 4 prims to qualify? what about 10? 15?

I don't pay much attention to prim count so long as it loads quick and doesn't have a bunch of textures..

But I'd say around 30-40. Sofa alone.. Maybe 5-10? Depends how big it is, though, and if there are pillows included..

Our home is Asian decor which tends to be low prim to begin with, but the futon I sell is 9 prims (7 if people want to take off the cushions). I tend to use potted plants that are no more than 5 prims. I think the bed we have is about 5 prims.

I've seen some items at Mickey's store (Etc.) that are 1 prim and absolutely amazing looking. Bookcases, all types of furniture, trunks, decorative items - all done with some really nifty texturing.

I'd agree with this, of course it is possible to go lower but not for some styles.

true low prim design would be 20-24 for the whole suite

above that would be kinda low prims,lowish prims ahh nearly low prim

meduim low prims ,yea thats it i guess would be the best way to market it

I'd say under 30 for the whole suite for it to still be called "low prim"

less than 30

1 sofa 8prim max
1 loveseat 6 prim max
1 coffee table 3 prim max
1 end table 3 prim max
1 lamp 1 prim
1 potted plant 4 prim max

1 sofa 4 prim
1 loveseat 4 prim
1 coffee table 1 prim
1 end table 1 prim
1 lamp 1 prim
1 potted plant 4 prim

15 prims total for low prim (in my opinion) and it would still look nice

could go even lower if one wanted to, with the sofa being 2 prims and the loveseat being 2 prims

(are you counting sculpts or non sculpt prims?)

for the 4 prims I am thinking sculpt prims, for the 2 prims non sculpt

(of course sculpt have a much nicer smooth corners look)

1 sofa - 3-5 prims
1 loveseat - 3-5 prims
1 coffee table - 1-3 prims
1 end table - 1-3 prims
1 lamp - 1-3 prims
1 potted plant -4-5 prims (if not sculpted)
so that is max 24 prims, but can be done with 13 prims. Though I do sell 10ish prim sofas myself as well, they are not really low prim.

Unless the suite is a specialist item/ design I would not expect a lounge suite to have more than 20-30 prims, especially with sculpties available.

Anyone got a 1 prim Milkcrate?

Low "low prim" furniture always just tends to look like it's rather obvious someone skimped on prims to me, rather than make it look all good, which is just not at all my taste.

Under 20 for an individual furniture piece, or 40-60 prims for a lounge suite will be low-prim to me (not in the sense that it should advertised as such but just that most of what I like tends to be 20-50 prims/piece).

Praise be to Kitty!

O.k. I have been "Low Prim" searching and have visited all of the "low prim" advertisers and as Kitty says, "it is obvious someone skimped on prims".

Low prim to me means under 20 prims for a piece, and 50-100 prims for a set.

Since the inception of sculpties the quality of low prim items has vastly improved. You should be able to bring that suite in at 10 - 15 prims using sculpties.

Depending on the style of it: four prims for the whole set.

The last four can be added into the sculpty models of the first two with relative ease. Yeah there's enough vertexes to do it right, unless you are doing some really curvey stuff.

Not hard to decide where tables or lamps should go in relation to the rest.

The real deciding factor? Textures and LOD performance. The difference between a good sculptie item and a bad one is just insanely huge, and sorry to say: few people have mastered it yet.

I would say 30 prims or less to call the set low prim. 60 is about average prim count. 90 or above becomes "highly detailed."

As you can see, opinions vary widely.

The question is "what low prim means to you", so your answer is correct, even though a piece of furniture that uses almost 20 prims it isn't low prim at all - depending on the piece of furniture, of course.

The very idea of low prim funiture is to skimp on prims. Skimping on prims is a positive, and not a negative - it's the whole idea of low prim furniture.

It's textures that make a piece of low prim furniture good or bad. Textures are the 'soul' of low prim furniture. They can be used to make a single prim look as though it is several prims, and they can be used to camouflage sharp corners. Careful texturing can make a very low prim piece look as if it is made from many prims. Sculpties help with the corners, of course.

I'd agree with the low estimates in this thread.

In my opinion, saying something is 'low prim' and not giving a full prim count later is more damning than overshooting my arbitrary 'low' threshold.

You set a high bar, Guvnah!

"Low" prim can mean a lot of different things, depending on your perspective. If you're going for sales to newer residents who only have 117 prims to work with, low prim to them probably means under 25 for the whole set, 5 or less a piece.

That's not much to work with at all, but consider that at least half of your prim count is taken up by your structure when you've only got 117 prims to work with. That leaves 60-or so prims for furnishings.

Considering that the suite example mentioned seems to be a 'livingroom suite', folks will probably want that to be *well* under 60 unless the only room they need to furnish is the living room

At IKEA, they have displays like "Living in 450 sq feet". Perhaps someone could make a display "Living in 117 prims"

I already have One of my full, themed skybox builds (OK, yeah, skybox and not ground build) is created to fit exactly into a 512m2 plot, and is exactly 116 prims (which allows one spare for a rental box).

I dont know what the definition is .. but I would think ..

If its low prim you should be able to get a whole living room set into less than 90 prims, so that someone could fit it into a skybox or a simple house in a 512.

Or partial sets (the basics) for living room and bed room.

Since thats kinda the goal?

let's see 'low prims' any prims that have a negative Z location.

This is more a corollary to your question, rather than a direct answer.

When I was a noob living on 1024sm of land, "low prim" meant my priority was furniture that would fit my small allotment. If need be, at the expense of style. Obviously, my idea of low prim would be a little more generous than someone living on 512sm of land. But regardless of the exact range, "low prim" was a necessary and appealing aspect to the furniture I sought.

By the time I graduated to 4096sm of land, prims were less of an issue. I could afford to splurge on prims, so my priority shifted to aesthetic impact. At that point, "low prim" became a warning flag that the furniture was probably not as stylish as "regular" furniture. Unless I have already seen a sample of a designer's furniture and liked it, I skip over "low prim" furniture adverts. Maybe the quality is good, but most of the time it's not, and I'm not going to waste my time sorting through the dreck to find the good stuff.

So I would say you're looking a two different markets, which probably need two different promotional ads. To hit the land-constrained resident population, emphasize low prim-count. But if the furniture is stylish, and hasn't suffered in quality through clever use of textures and sculpts, then emphasize the styling and soft-sell the low prim count.

K

I have some really nice looking Sculpty stuff that I did not buy as Low-prim ..

I checked the numbers for you:

Here are the prim counts

Chair - 6

Couch - 8

Coffee/end tables - 4

Long Wooden Bar with lots of detail - 22

Bar stools - 8


I do consider that stuff low prim - but it was just advertised as Sculpty at the time.

(from Yep!)