What to do when the thing you purchased isn't what you thought....an answer!

If there are many objects in a box, it may take half a minute for it all to unpack. I will see maybe 10-15 items show up, then a pause, then another 20 items, then a pause, and so on... if I take the box back or delete it before the process finishes, I don't get all of the items. It seems to start at the bottom of the contents and work up, so I wait until the top item from the box shows up in my inventory.

Yes, I always wear shoe base and feet are set to zero, but the boots are still holey looking. I can see parts of the flesh coming thru on the foot. Or they are way too big -- that's the biggest problem == WAY TOO BIG and editing not helping; it just shifts the holes. The thigh boots work well. I also notice the under shoe for the boot is not the same color as the boot itself or doesn't go all the way to the top of the boot in the same color. Also, tuck in pants are now in vogue rather than flares but the designers need to make the tuck in pants modifiable because being able to shorten the pants corrects this problem. I tried this experiment with making my own first leggings and shortened the pants to sit just at the top of the boot and the holes disappeared. However, these were my first clothes making attempts and the leggings I made don't have any texture or detail so I wouldn't really call my leggings creation pants I'd like to wear with boots or with anything for that matter. Also, I'd like to be able to make some pants longer, so modifiable pants are a good idea. The pants I am currently wearing inworld are legging type tuck in pants and I'm wearing boots and there are holes where feet flesh shows through.

Oh, and I recently purchased a pair of UGG boots that are really cute. They work great with mini skirts and then have no holes. But boots with fur, bare legs and a mini skirt is just not a good look.

Oh sorry, meant to quote this post for my post above. And I always have my feet set to 0 and wear the shoe shaper of course!

If you are editing your shoes, make sure you are also editing the invisiprims...and sometimes the invisiprims are the only thing that need editing

What are the invisiprims? I have a few boots were you click on them and then a menu appears where you can shrink. But when I shrink the boots, they now fit at the calf but the ankle flattens too much and the ankle part shows thru.

Anyhow, if any designer has boots that are compatible with the new style of tuck in pants, please let me know! I like leather tuck in pants and the new dyed wool style pants in soft colors as well as jeans. Really a pretty look! I'm not into all the sexy clothes.

Also if anyone is designing tights for the new in vogue Winter season look, please let me know! Tights and tuck in pants that are modifiable or are perhaps part of the boot base in color might work. I tried it as a little experiment and it worked. I need to check all my boots to see if the holes are corrected with skirts. I know the Ugg boots are.

Oh and I also have ankle boots, but the ones I bought show the flesh of the foot where the boot and pants meet because the pants are too short and the pant length is not modifiable. That's why I'd like modifiable pants to lengthen or shorten.

How much more does it cost to make and offer a modifiable item? Do you have an average for me as I am curious.

It doesn't cost any more to make a modifiable item.

In fact it's cheaper to make them mod, since you don't have to script them.

Just don't buy non-mod clothes.

The leggings/tucked in look is offered by so many designers. They provide both a pants and a underpants layer in their packs. The underpants layer item look just like the pants, but are fitting tight to the legs all the way down. This is a great option! I can also wear short skirts with glitchpants and leggings under, so I don't have the gap between stockings and glitchpants.

I am still a bit puzzled about the fitting problems you have. I am just curious and wonder if you have a avatar who's very different in height or body fat? If the boots are modifiable and you stretch them a bit, don't the holes disappear? Is this problem the "shoe part" or the "leg part"?

If you want boots that look like they are a glove up your leg, really tight boots, this look is hard to get with sculpts. They have to be a slightly bit away from the leg, unless you can see the leg through if you zoom in really close. (Sorry if I'm unclear, I try to explain as best I can, English isn't my #1 language)

Shops like J's offer really good boots and they have demo's. Their high boots combine system top with prim shoe part, and fit very tight without the leg showing.

These are prims with a special texture that prevents rendering of anything behind it with an "alpha" texture--including avatar textures. This is useful for things like high heeled shoes, to hide the avatar's heel, or ice skates, to hide the whole foot where the skate blade is. Rarely used with flats: an invisiprim will hide the part of the foot sticking out, but also any alpha-textured surface behind that, like many floor textures.

And as Argent says: just say "no" to no-mod. Unless it's an accident of packaging (apropos this thread), a designer selling no-mod clothing items is clueless, full of themselves, or both.

Lots of questions here: Let me try to sort some out.

1) Thanks for the store name with demos. Cool! Also, I did try a few demo boots with the new style legging pants and the color of the leggings showed thru, so I didn't buy them because I want boots that are both for skirts and the new leggings/tuck in boots style pants. I also bought a pair of awesome wool textured rose colored wool pants. Awesome straight leg pants, but look awful with stilettos because wool with stilettos is not a good look.

2) The current pants I am using have both a pant and an underpant (legging) and I'm currently wearing the legging part with boots and holes show through, meaning parts of my avatar's feet or the color of the pants.

3) The tight boots I have are thigh high only and those don't work with pants either.

4) To answer you question: "Is my avatar different?" Yes, it could possibly be in that I use a different shape with a different skin right now.

Also, the Ugg boots I recently bought plus another pair of boots are more mid calf length which is the new style and these mid calf length boots are meant to be worn with pants tucked in. They are shorter boots not knee length. Anyhow I've spent an awful lot of money on boots that aren't working, mostly too big or have hole showing problems.

Well, I'd like to work with what I have. I don't need to buy more stuff right now.

How do I do that at the heel? That is one problem, but the other problem is the legging pant color is showing thru on the side of the boot too, but not with a skirt (this is my Ugg boots I'm talking about). So I can't wear pants with my Ugg boots only mini skirts and that looks weird. Ugg boots are designed for Winter. And my other mid-calf boots I just bought won't let the legging tuck in pants work either without part of the foot showing thru. Now this designer showed these boots with a short dress in a photo, though sold them as separates. So I'm kinda guessing I'm supposed to wear a short dress with these boots which wasn't clearly stated as boots for short dresses and skirts only.

1) Let me think - Adam n' Eve has demos, and Maitreya. EvA have a free pair of boots in Xmas colors. They are worth picking up even if you don't like the colors, just so you can resize them and see how they look on your foot. EvA is impossible to search for inworld (Dominion/248/221/30/). I use the Redgrave boots most, can't remember if it was demo for them. I think it was demos for my Bax boots, and Tesla. I am sure you can get more suggestions. Some of these has a resizer script, some are modify. I hope no one are no mod.... they fit me, but I have a rather common SL female shape.

2) I wish I could help you more. I was so sure the underpants layer would help.

3) I have shorter boots from Tesla and Bax, and I resize the top so it fit my leg. I think I have 12-15% body fat.

4) Most creators use a idealized SL body when they make their products. I know this is a problem if one chooses to use their RL height (much shorter than average SL height) or more body fat/leg muscles.

That could be interpreted in several ways, but in case you are one of SL's BBWs, I suggest looking for stores that specialise for those types of body shape. You might also want to contact Rosie Barthelmess or read her blog (http://skatoolaki.com/rosie/) to see if she knows of any shoe stores that cater for fuller-figured ladies.

If the pants are modifiable, make sure they are set to the tightest fit. (They *are* on the underpants layer, yes? If not, ensure they're the tightest fit and with no flare.) You might also want to shorten them so they finish just below the top of the boot. Then make a new pair of socks the same colour as the boots, to hide any gaps where your flesh might be showing through.

I second the recommendation of J's for good boots and shoes. Currently, if you're a group member, the group-only Santa just inside the doorway has a fabulous scripted-resize pair of unisex long engineer boots. Some of the best resize scripting I've seen on footwear.

No, my calfs are smaller than the average, I'd say. I have bad eyesight, so my sizing isn't the greatest. My rl bf and I just got a huge computer screen about a week ago and I am seeing more things than I used to. We've had this screen a little less than two weeks. So that's why the boots are too big cuz I have little calves I think. Now making socks is a good idea to try but I wasn't sure I could make the texture right. On one pair I could cuz they're just black. But, the Ugg boots it has a very unusual texture color, but I could try.

I've also explained above, I have made my own leggings experiment with the pant length shorter and coming to just about a hair length below the boot and the holes went away. However, these leggings I made have no texture or detail so they aren't something I'd really want to wear as a pant or even call a design. I also don't have a desire right now to buy textures and learn to design stuff right now.

But the socks idea is good, and it's similar to what I thought of to do with some of the skirts I bought that have no glitch short pants with them in that I can make my own glitch short pants to wear under the skirts. So, yes, I have been trying to brainstorm on how to fix these issues since I received no replies to my IM's, but the positive is I learned how to make panties, leggings and tops, though they have no texture or real design elements to them, just plain plus a color but at least this might work for some of the boots and skirts problems. I think I can make socks and ugly glitch pants as a start. Or give up and be in Summer wear year 'round.

You may also want to check and make sure in your graphics settings that under Mesh Detail your Objects slider is set all the way up to High. I know every time there is a viewer update, I have to reset this, or I have holes in my sculptie shoes.

Well, you can't, because the shoes are no-mod, so you couldn't add invisiprims to them.

Honestly, by far the easiest solution is to just never buy no-mod shoes. Once you've got them... you're really just stuck with settling for a plausible size for your avatar, and futzing with the shape sliders till your feet fit. (Even worse are those goddamned resize scripts, which add yet more aggravation because instead of being able to stay in the editor while adjusting size and position, you have to jump back and forth between the editor and the stupid script. I *hate* them.)

I wonder how many in-world cobblers took up their trade as a result of utter, plate-hurling frustration at all the other cobblers--only to repeat the same mistakes. It's maddening.

Okay I tried that and couldn't move (got totally lagged down AND my screen colors completely changed as well as clarity and I couldn't see -- it became blurry). So that didn't work for me.

Next, I made black socks for my black boots and it worked. No more moth eaten holey shoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :very happy:

Glad you found a fix.

If your computer can't handle having the objects slider on high, this unfortunately seems to indicate that your shoe issue has been more a graphics issue than a fit issue. This would apply to other attachments and objects as well. You just aren't seeing them with the amount of detail the creator put into them.

OMG - not possible. If the inventory has not yet exploded, the we always need more.

Yes my rl bf and I have thought about upgrading our graphics so I can see better, BUT the graphics did change to an awesome quality once we got this new large screen. We do, however, still need some time to fiddle with the screen. For instance, bright lights hurt my eyes, so he set the brightness for me at 2! But, we still haven't downloaded the disc that comes with this new monitor which supposedly tweaks colors, saturation, hues, etc. But mostly this new monitor I couldn't be more pleased with and in itself has improved the graphics quality.

But, I think a HOW TO THREAD on how to make socks and/or glitch pants if they don't come with the item is in order for easy reference. I think one needs to make socks if the boot base is nude color.

Well, maybe an evening gown or two but only if my rl bf gets his butt on SL for Christmas and/or New Years parties! He hates SL about as much as I hate football.

Oh and if someone strapped me to a chair to watch football, it would be torture. I don't know why my rl bf hates SL so much but he said it would be like him asking me to play the World of Football video game with him, and I completely winced at the thought of playing World of Football or whatever it's called!

Frankly, I don't see the comparison. He's nutz. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go check out the sorority girls at the University of Arizona. They will disagree with you.

Regarding graphics settings:

Try lowering your Draw Distance WAY down. Like to 64 for starters, just to see what happens. For me, this is the single biggest lag creator on my computer. Turn details on ground, tree, and sky to the lowest, while keeping avatars, objects, and flexi objects high. This sort of tweaking helps my computer run more efficiently, while I can still see the stuff that I really care about. I only raise my Draw Distance if I am going to be exploring around, and in that case I might raise the other sliders as well and just deal with the lag.

Ok, I can stare at the football players butts for a little while in tights, but I lose interest pretty fast. Seen one tight butt seem 'em all.

And if I wanted to see the tight butts of men, I'd rather go to the ballet. My rl bf has no interest in the ballet. I've always loved ballet. He merely has no interest.

This is the way relationships work. Two people won't always 100% agree on what is fun or entertainment in their relationship.

I'd like to see tight butts on men in the ballet, but I also love the ballet.