Review of Sony's "Home"
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Wandered Miles
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12-11-2008 12:44
From: Argent Stonecutter Again, similar to Lively and Twinity. How anyone is supposed to follow a conversation with bubble chat is beyond me. .
Home's chat is the same as SL's. Chat appears above the avatars head and across the bottom of the screen. Both methods are useful depending on the situation.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-11-2008 12:47
From: Wandered Miles From a socialising point of view Home is greatl. I have a powerful machine and when in the SL Welcome Area I often find myself staring at a wall in order to keep the lag under control. Yet in Home you can be in an area with 40 realistic avatars and not have any problems at all. Unfortunately, all those avatars look almost exactly the same. If you were in an area with 40 Ruths and Kens, I'm sure your lag would be "under control" too.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-11-2008 12:49
From: Wandered Miles From a socialising point of view Home is greatl. I have a powerful machine and when in the SL Welcome Area I often find myself staring at a wall in order to keep the lag under control. Yet in Home you can be in an area with 40 realistic avatars and not have any problems at all. Unfortunately, all those avatars look almost exactly the same. If you were in an area with 40 Ruths and Kens, I'm sure your lag would be "under control" too. From: Wandered Miles Home's chat is the same as SL's. Chat appears above the avatars head and across the bottom of the screen. Both methods are useful depending on the situation. SL's chat appears across the bottom of the screen and in the chat log. You can make it appear over the top of the avatar's head if you want, but thank god it's not the default. Why would you want that? EVERY system out there defaults to bubble chat, and it's impossible to follow a conversation. You might as well be using voice (god forbid). Do they even have a log?
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Wandered Miles
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12-11-2008 13:00
From: Argent Stonecutter Unfortunately, all those avatars look almost exactly the same. If you were in an area with 40 Ruths and Kens, I'm sure your lag would be "under control" too. Yep. and that's another great thing about Home. No freaking furries! * runs *
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-11-2008 13:02
From: Wandered Miles and that's another great thing about Home. No freaking furries The highest ARC of any avatar I have is under 2000. And that's a robot. I've seen people who have a higher Avatar Rendering Cost just from their bling hair.
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Ceka Cianci
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12-11-2008 13:04
the only thing i see hurting SL is LL.. these other big corps trying to make these virtual worlds are only licking at part of an SL crowd and may not get that many of them anyways.. LL has the crowd and is licking at the corps and getting about the same thing.. i think LL will be hurting themselves or i should say hurting us with it getting too expensive to be worth investing in anymore..
maybe later when they are out of our price range they unleash something that appeals to the corps..maybe not..
i just don't see other virtual worlds hurting SL until they make a better version of an SL..anything less and they may get new residents..i don't think the older residents would mind the lag reduction lol
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Wandered Miles
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12-11-2008 13:16
From: Porky Gorky Looks nice. However I didnt see a single building or environment in that Vid that I couldn't recreate in SL. Im sure skin and clothing creators feel the same. I guess the big difference is 2% of SL looks that good already and the other 98% is rubbish. It's not just about how it looks, Porky. it's also about how it feels. Frame rate, lag, and how cleanly the content downloads are all important to the overall experience. Still, I don't think Home stands a chance against SL because there's just too many kids there.
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Ceka Cianci
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12-11-2008 13:23
From: Wandered Miles It's not just about how it looks, Porky. it's also about how it feels. Frame rate, lag, and how cleanly the content downloads are all important to the overall experience.
Still, I don't think Home stands a chance against SL because there's just too many kids there. if it was about performance people would have left SL long ago..it's about having more to do here than these other places.. content creation is a big deal and has a big hold on why a lot do not leave..plus a well established economy..if you don't think there are kids in sl just hit the nearest sand box wait 5 minutes until the marios start showing up..they are everywhere 
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Wicked Picket
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12-11-2008 13:42
I was just reading post of the people installing Home on their PS3s...they are complaining about the 3GB of space you have to have available on the PS3 HDD, and it appears downloads are lagging, and logins are failing. ...I say, "welcome to OUR world" 
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eku Zhong
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12-11-2008 13:46
From: Bree Giffen You forgot to mention that to get Home you need to buy a PS3 first. The PS3 has zero appeal to casual gamers. They want to bring in Companies to spam you with their branded products. I honestly don't see the two competing anyways. theres a whole generation or two who grew up on playstation... who see a PS3 as not just a console but a communication and home theater tool in japan for example, cellphones provide internet access, blogging abilit, and video conferencing... and a seriously large slice of the population owns a PS2 or upward. its a generational thing, and i think that Sony's home will appeal to a good few. Different strokes...
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Wandered Miles
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12-11-2008 13:47
From: Ceka Cianci if it was about performance people would have left SL long ago..it's about having more to do here than these other places.. content creation is a big deal and has a big hold on why a lot do not leave..plus a well established economy..if you don't think there are kids in sl just hit the nearest sand box wait 5 minutes until the marios start showing up..they are everywhere  well I never said it was all about performance and I never said there wasn't any kids in SL. I also never said that Julie Andrews was caught doing something with a banana on a warm evening on the 14th of Febuary, 1943.
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Ceka Cianci
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12-11-2008 13:49
we have Bewbies!! Yes world We have bewbies!!! well some of us have bewbies anyways!!! oh god i must get more tea
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Ceka Cianci
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12-11-2008 13:52
From: Wandered Miles well I never said it was all about performance and I never said there wasn't any kids in SL. I also never said that Julie Andrews was caught doing something with a banana on a warm evening on the 14th of Febuary, 1943. i guess you never said anything then lol i could have sword that was you..my mistake..must have been the person behind you 
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-11-2008 14:01
Someone needs to port the open-source client to the Playstation 3. 
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Bobo Decosta
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12-12-2008 11:45
Was on Home today for the first time and I was very impressed. I'm only a bit worried about what kind of crowds it will draw. Pumped up teenagers might ruin it for me.
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Love Hastings
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12-12-2008 11:59
From: Argent Stonecutter Someone needs to port the open-source client to the Playstation 3.  No access to the graphics pipeline. 
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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12-12-2008 12:31
Guh... I haven't been able to log in anyway... I'm getting stuck on EULA.jsp timeouts and stuff. (T_T)
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-12-2008 13:02
From: Love Hastings No access to the graphics pipeline.  What API do programs on the PS3 use?
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Love Hastings
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12-12-2008 13:05
From: Argent Stonecutter What API do programs on the PS3 use? Well, if that "someone" is Sony, or a licensed PS3 developer, then ... perhaps. As if that would happen. But you can't load Linux on it and expect to render graphics. (Unless it's changed recently.)
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Bobo Decosta
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12-12-2008 22:47
From: Ceka Cianci if it was about performance people would have left SL long ago..it's about having more to do here than these other places..
A lot of people have left SL because of the constant bad performance so if I can follow you Home would be a hit if they manage to get a 99,99% uptime. I'm very impressed by Home because of it's easy learning curve. In a few minutes I had a very nice looking avatar, something I never managed to do in SL. I also knew how to use the animations in a few seconds after I created my first av, something that took me days after signing up for SL. Sony did a very good job to get the basics right, the only deal breaker is the limited amount of content but that said I explored more content on my first day in Home than I could find on my first in SL.
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Rock Vacirca
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12-13-2008 02:33
One advantage Home has over SL: at least ALL the avatars in Home are real people, and the numbers, when they come out, can be trusted.
No-one trusts LL's numbers.
Rock (or was this an automated Bot reply???)
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-13-2008 05:26
From: Rock Vacirca One advantage Home has over SL: at least ALL the avatars in Home are real people, and the numbers, when they come out, can be trusted. Funny, according to Penny Arcade the avatars in Home are lifeless mannequins: http://www.penny-arcade.com/2008/12/12/
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Ceka Cianci
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12-14-2008 03:57
From: Bobo Decosta A lot of people have left SL because of the constant bad performance so if I can follow you Home would be a hit if they manage to get a 99,99% uptime. I'm very impressed by Home because of it's easy learning curve. In a few minutes I had a very nice looking avatar, something I never managed to do in SL. I also knew how to use the animations in a few seconds after I created my first av, something that took me days after signing up for SL. Sony did a very good job to get the basics right, the only deal breaker is the limited amount of content but that said I explored more content on my first day in Home than I could find on my first in SL. yes and 80% leave in the first few hours to a day because of the learning cure and lag and lots of reasons.. a lot stay because it is not like playstation where everything is so easy.Sony made something anyone could use and learn pretty quick.. they created everything you saw.. but your first day in home you saw sony content where everything you saw in sl was player content.. Home is sl on easy mode with all the codes to all the stuff.. I love the fact that there is no way i could learn everything in SL.because it expands with it's users bringing in new ideas all the time.. sure some leave because of performance but not a lot and i know i haven't met any yet.. i guess it comes down to what people like..some like to chat and relax and hang out..some like to get in there and see what they can do.. learning curve=longevity no learning curve=boredom
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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12-14-2008 06:56
Countdown to Sony Home's first scandal over underage users trading cyber for in-game money and/or favors commencing in 3, 2, 1...
Hopefully they're better prepared for it than Sims Online was.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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12-14-2008 06:59
Okay, I got on. I didn't make a Sideways alt yet, but, my main account is fine for what I saw there. (^_^) From what I see, it's the same old pre-rendered content in a shiny game engine that makes most other MMOs "better" than SL. Including bloody load times for every door you walk through. (=_=) And, that's if you can walk through a door. Avatar to avatar physics is non-existent, so if there is a crowd standing in front of something, there's no shoving your way through. (>_<  Chat is chat. You can have a chat console, and there are speech bubbles. It works. (=_=) Avatar creation fails GREATLY. While it seems like you have nice linear slider control over details. Really, in the end, there are about 80 possible avatars. The female avatar can somewhat go down to a teen shape. But, there's no way to get rid of all her makeup. Add to that, her makeup is horrifying. She's got that 'purpleface' syndrome where it looks like someone told her this would "brighten" her skin, while, in fact it's simply a shade of purple or blue and she never learned how to blend correctly so you get that makeup/skin line right around the jaw. (T_T) Beyond that, it's a whole load of nothing. A giant, billion ton, void. Noobie guys are hitting on the noobie girls, not knowing who's behind the keyboard. YOU CAN'T BUILD! Nobody wants to see your apartment, because it looks like everyone else's. And, the places that actually do have stuff to see are Loading[===-----]. (=_=) So... If you like the idea of doing absolutely nothing, in an online prefabricated environment, in the company of a couple dozen expressionless drones at a time; Home is for you. (^_^)y
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