SL on the Wii - possible, or wishful thinking?
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Pinkfeather Heron
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09-23-2007 19:08
Soooooo my husband just bought a Wii and it's totally fun, especially the part where you can download oldschool Nintendo/SNES/Sega games and play them, as well as surf the internet (Homestar Runner on the teevee!). Of course, I started wondering if it was possible that either: LL could release an official version for the Wii, OR someone could make a hacked version (?) that would work on the Wii. Really, I'm not sure how this could practically come about.
I tried searching the forums and haven't found any threads relating to the Wii.
So... Possible? Wishful thinking? What are your thoughts? If you have a Wii, would you play SL on it? If you don't have a Wii, would you buy one if you could play SL on it?
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Alicia Sautereau
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09-23-2007 19:11
they can`t even have a stable windows version, keep on dreaming
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Brenda Connolly
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09-23-2007 19:18
NOTHING would make me buy a Wii, or any mobile device that may be SL able. I like the fact that I can only access SL from home. Built in away time.
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Sarah Nerd
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09-23-2007 19:23
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Sarah Nerd
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09-23-2007 19:24
From: Brenda Connolly NOTHING would make me buy a Wii, or any mobile device that may be SL able. I like the fact that I can only access SL from home. Built in away time. I think sl on a mobile device would be handy as hell. I could be assisting customers or building on a long car ride, at the laundry mat ect. I love the possibility.
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Pinkfeather Heron
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09-24-2007 06:10
From: Alicia Sautereau they can`t even have a stable windows version, keep on dreaming The difference with the Wii is that there is no variation in hardware or software. PC users may have many different video and graphics cards and may be running many different operating systems. I feel SL may be more stable on a Wii because it's a device meant to run video games (see the new Zelda: Twilight Princess if you want to go "ooooooohh pretty"  , and may cut down on client-side lag, at least relating to image processing capability. Now, server-side issues, that's another issue...  From: Brenda Connolly NOTHING would make me buy a Wii, or any mobile device that may be SL able. I like the fact that I can only access SL from home. Built in away time. I think you're confusing the Wii with the Nintendo DS; the Wii is a home console like XBox or Playstation. I've sometimes thought it would be neat to have SL on the DS, but I'm not sure how that would work- there's no keyboard. Maybe on a Sidekick...?  @ Sarah: That link prompted me to do a quick google search for "Second Life +Wii" and came up with a bunch of pages about using the Wii controller in SL. I'm going to delve more into the search results later; gotta run to work now. 
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Brenda Connolly
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09-24-2007 06:14
From: Pinkfeather Heron The difference with the Wii is that there is no variation in hardware or software. PC users may have many different video and graphics cards and may be running many different operating systems. I feel SL may be more stable on a Wii because it's a device meant to run video games (see the new Zelda: Twilight Princess if you want to go "ooooooohh pretty"  , and may cut down on client-side lag, at least relating to image processing capability. Now, server-side issues, that's another issue...  I think you're confusing the Wii with the Nintendo DS; the Wii is a home console like XBox or Playstation. I've sometimes thought it would be neat to have SL on the DS, but I'm not sure how that would work- there's no keyboard. Maybe on a Sidekick...?  @ Sarah: That link prompted me to do a quick google search for "Second Life +Wii" and came up with a bunch of pages about using the Wii controller in SL. I'm going to delve more into the search results later; gotta run to work now.  No doubt. I don't know a Wii from a Playstation from a XBox form a microwave oven.
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Raudf Fox
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09-24-2007 06:17
All I can think of is.. well, okay, my first thoughts on using the WII wouldn't be G-rated anyways. Brenda: The WII is the one with the motion sensitive controller Graphically, it should be possible to some extent. The WII isn't a completely multi-functional, many-spec'd beastie like the PC, so it would be far easier to adapt some of the features. But one major question would be, how do we control the building tools? Would up move objects along the Z-axis?
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Brenda Connolly
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09-24-2007 06:17
From: Sarah Nerd I think sl on a mobile device would be handy as hell. I could be assisting customers or building on a long car ride, at the laundry mat ect. I love the possibility. Oh definitely, people with businesses or serious SL creators definitely would benefit from it. I am only answering for me, I don't need my SL To Go. 
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Qie Niangao
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09-24-2007 06:25
From what I could turn up, it kinda looks like OpenGL would be the showstopper at present, else it would be a compile away, on WiiLi (  ). [edit: hehehe: modulo FMOD sound, QuickTime video...]
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Meni Kaiousei
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09-24-2007 06:30
From: Alicia Sautereau they can`t even have a stable windows version, keep on dreaming From: Pinkfeather Heron The difference with the Wii is that there is no variation in hardware or software. PC users may have many different video and graphics cards and may be running many different operating systems. they can`t even have a stable MAC version, keep on dreaming 
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Brenda Connolly
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09-24-2007 06:39
From: Raudf Fox All I can think of is.. well, okay, my first thoughts on using the WII wouldn't be G-rated anyways. Brenda: The WII is the one with the motion sensitive controller Oh that. I do believe I have whizzed through commercials for that with the DVR. Thanks.
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09-24-2007 06:45
From: Brenda Connolly Oh that. I do believe I have whizzed through commercials for that with the DVR. Thanks. I occasionally get to watch the news, but I still don't have one. I'm lazy and this system sounds like a lot of physical labor to me! 
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Brenda Connolly
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09-24-2007 07:11
From: Raudf Fox I occasionally get to watch the news, but I still don't have one. I'm lazy and this system sounds like a lot of physical labor to me!  What, the DVR? Wiiiiii! Yeah, way too much effort for this girl. i exercise enough, don't want to do it in my leisure time.
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bilbo99 Emu
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09-24-2007 07:58
From: Brenda Connolly Yeah, way too much effort for this girl. i exercise enough, don't want to do it in my leisure time. From the compiled adventures of Brendas panties .. I thought you did! ... <bows again, turns and runs>
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Love Hastings
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09-24-2007 08:06
The 360 would be a better platform, I think. Especially with the new mini keyboard coming out. Same issue with OpenGL though, I think.
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Wildefire Walcott
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09-24-2007 08:33
I think building in SL on the Wii would be fun. Text input would be a terrible pain (would be all soft-keyboard based) and as far as I know there isn't any voice support for Wii. Then there's the whole issue of the Wii really only being a leeetle bit more powerful than the GameCube (which was less powerful than gaming PCs when it was released, what, 7 years ago?)
There's also Nintendo's 'family friendly' policy regarding how the Wii works with the Internet. They have this awful friend-code system that makes it so you can only connect with people you already know. Sure you could design a game that floated around that system, but would Nintendo license it?
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Victorria Paine
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09-24-2007 08:53
I dunno -- Nintendo's products, as far as games go, seem aimed particularly at children. My son plays with his GameCube pretty regularly -- he doesn't have a Wii yet, but it seems pretty propular in his 8-10 age group. I know that the Wii is seeking a broader audience than that, but I can't see LL being enthusiastic about expanding SL to a gaming platform that is mostly children/family oriented.
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Colette Meiji
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09-24-2007 08:58
From: Wildefire Walcott I think building in SL on the Wii would be fun. Text input would be a terrible pain (would be all soft-keyboard based) and as far as I know there isn't any voice support for Wii. Then there's the whole issue of the Wii really only being a leeetle bit more powerful than the GameCube (which was less powerful than gaming PCs when it was released, what, 7 years ago?)
There's also Nintendo's 'family friendly' policy regarding how the Wii works with the Internet. They have this awful friend-code system that makes it so you can only connect with people you already know. Sure you could design a game that floated around that system, but would Nintendo license it? You can plug a USB keyboard into the Wii. My Son has one his USB wireless card plugs right in also. I think they should concentrate on getting SL to work on PCs and the Mac before worrying about consoles though. 
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Cherry Czervik
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09-24-2007 09:23
From: Brenda Connolly No doubt. I don't know a Wii from a Playstation from a XBox form a microwave oven. Is this why my XBox isn't working very well Brenda? Will you STOP trying to load ham sandwiches please? *edit* oh yeah the question - I sincerely hope not.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-24-2007 09:45
From: Cherry Czervik Is this why my XBox isn't working very well Brenda? Will you STOP trying to load ham sandwiches please?
*edit* oh yeah the question - I sincerely hope not. /me runs and hides before you find out what happened to your MP3 Player.
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Cherry Czervik
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09-24-2007 11:57
From: Brenda Connolly /me runs and hides before you find out what happened to your MP3 Player. Time spent deep frying my ipod in tempura batter could be used to clear down IM messages ...
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Michael Bigwig
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09-24-2007 12:53
I don't think SL would run that well on Wii...not to mention there's no sense putting it there...the Wii-mote won't do anything particularly exciting for SL.
Console to PC port of VRML environments like SL are a few years away yet.
I'm not even sure Wii hardware or architecture can handle the high fidelity and growing world of SL
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Wildefire Walcott
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09-24-2007 13:29
From: Michael Bigwig I don't think SL would run that well on Wii...not to mention there's no sense putting it there...the Wii-mote won't do anything particularly exciting for SL. I agree that the Wii couldn't handle SL, but I disagree with your position on the Wii-mote. Imagine being able to position, rotate, and stretch prims using Wii-mote gestures! That would be tons more fun than the hotkey-fu we have to conduct on our keyboards every day.
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Michael Bigwig
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09-24-2007 13:33
From: Wildefire Walcott I agree that the Wii couldn't handle SL, but I disagree with your position on the Wii-mote. Imagine being able to position, rotate, and stretch prims using Wii-mote gestures! That would be tons more fun than the hotkey-fu we have to conduct on our keyboards every day. I don't really want to have to aim to grab a manipulator handle. Wii-mote is a step above most motion sensing technology, but it's far from perfect...even with practice it wouldn't be nearly as accurate of efficient as a mouse and keyboard.
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