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Tiana Whitfield

Forever And A Day

Join date: 1 Apr 2007

Posts: 702

01-30-2008 11:14

From: Marianne McCann

(And here I was jes tinking there hadn't been a kid avvie thread this week)

Here ya go, Chux: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Marianne_McCann/Child_Avatars

Mari

I think the poster was posting a genuine concern over something he / she had seen, not every question regarding Child Avies is an attack on those role playing children.

Marianne McCann

Feted Inner Child

Join date: 23 Feb 2006

Posts: 7,145

01-30-2008 11:40

From: Yumi Murakami

This does bring up an interesting point though, because as far as I'm aware, LL didn't actually explicitly ban sexual ageplay, they only banned the public advertising of it? (Which would seem to be a rather serious omission if true) That may have just been because they didn't want to create a policy which would require people to be spying on other people's private activity in order to be enforced, but I'm not sure.

This was expanded beyond the advertising ban:

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/

"participation by Residents in lewd or sexual acts in which one or more of the avatars appears to represent minors (or the depiction of such acts in images, video, textures, or text) is a violation of the Community Standards;"

Mari

_____________________

"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden
"If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world

" - Prospero Linden

Marianne McCann

Feted Inner Child

Join date: 23 Feb 2006

Posts: 7,145

01-30-2008 11:41

From: Amy Loam

You would need to be careful with this. In the UK having a screenshot of sexual ageplay on your computer would get you into trouble. I would imagine its not just the UK too.

You have a point. I was referring to the "include screenshot" option in the abuse report form. My bad for not being clearer.

Mari

_____________________

"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden
"If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world

" - Prospero Linden

Marianne McCann

Feted Inner Child

Join date: 23 Feb 2006

Posts: 7,145

01-30-2008 11:44

From: Tiana Whitfield

I think the poster was posting a genuine concern over something he / she had seen, not every question regarding Child Avies is an attack on those role playing children.

Of course: I created the page, however, to cover all instances. The rules are spelled out on that page as best as I could, and I figured it could at the least assist.

Mari

_____________________

"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden
"If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world

" - Prospero Linden

Katie Singh

SL Kid

Join date: 18 Feb 2007

Posts: 81

01-30-2008 13:02

If this is for real, then absolutely report it. It is a bannable offense and it will go away. I'm a little surprised to hear this. I'm an SL child and I've been around for a year and after the ban this stuff pretty much disappeared. Not that there wasn't someone doing it somewhere in their skybox, but not anywhere that your average person could see it. (Before the ban was, well, yuck.)

Because it seems so unusual that people in public would be doing this given the rules, please make sure that the person really truly is playing a child. I'm a child avatar, but my (in game) mother's avatar is just short. We have, in the past, both been harassed as "child avatars." I know there are people with bad video cards, but her skin has normal adult makeup (mine doesn't) and she has an adult shape with breasts, hips, and so on (which I don't have) and her profile identifies her as an adult avatar with a husband and daughter, so I don't really get it. But please be cautious. Does the person's profile identify them as a child avatar?

pedaphilia is wrong
Tiana Whitfield Forever And A Day Join date: 1 Apr 2007 Posts: 702	01-30-2008 11:14 From: Marianne McCann (And here I was jes tinking there hadn't been a kid avvie thread this week) Here ya go, Chux: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Marianne_McCann/Child_Avatars Mari I think the poster was posting a genuine concern over something he / she had seen, not every question regarding Child Avies is an attack on those role playing children.
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	01-30-2008 11:40 From: Yumi Murakami This does bring up an interesting point though, because as far as I'm aware, LL didn't actually explicitly ban sexual ageplay, they only banned the public advertising of it? (Which would seem to be a rather serious omission if true) That may have just been because they didn't want to create a policy which would require people to be spying on other people's private activity in order to be enforced, but I'm not sure. This was expanded beyond the advertising ban: http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/ "participation by Residents in lewd or sexual acts in which one or more of the avatars appears to represent minors (or the depiction of such acts in images, video, textures, or text) is a violation of the Community Standards;" Mari _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	01-30-2008 11:41 From: Amy Loam You would need to be careful with this. In the UK having a screenshot of sexual ageplay on your computer would get you into trouble. I would imagine its not just the UK too. You have a point. I was referring to the "include screenshot" option in the abuse report form. My bad for not being clearer. Mari _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	01-30-2008 11:44 From: Tiana Whitfield I think the poster was posting a genuine concern over something he / she had seen, not every question regarding Child Avies is an attack on those role playing children. Of course: I created the page, however, to cover all instances. The rules are spelled out on that page as best as I could, and I figured it could at the least assist. Mari _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Katie Singh SL Kid Join date: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 81	01-30-2008 13:02 If this is for real, then absolutely report it. It is a bannable offense and it will go away. I'm a little surprised to hear this. I'm an SL child and I've been around for a year and after the ban this stuff pretty much disappeared. Not that there wasn't someone doing it somewhere in their skybox, but not anywhere that your average person could see it. (Before the ban was, well, yuck.) Because it seems so unusual that people in public would be doing this given the rules, please make sure that the person really truly is playing a child. I'm a child avatar, but my (in game) mother's avatar is just short. We have, in the past, both been harassed as "child avatars." I know there are people with bad video cards, but her skin has normal adult makeup (mine doesn't) and she has an adult shape with breasts, hips, and so on (which I don't have) and her profile identifies her as an adult avatar with a husband and daughter, so I don't really get it. But please be cautious. Does the person's profile identify them as a child avatar?

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