I probably would have been a bit more patient a bit longer but I don't really think you over reacted.
I certainly don't think you should feel bad about it.
Even if, extreme case, he was seriously depressed and crying out for help you really did him a favor by not engaging him or encouraging him to think he was going to get anything out of the encounter.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-29-2008 12:57
I consider myself a patient sort and not by any means any kind of rampant territorialist, but that sort of behaviour would have probably have resulted in the same reaction from me.
I am sure that it was not deliberate griefing or such but really, after a while, regardless of language and so on, some people prove both extremely irritating and inconsiderate of requests, and the only solution rather than to leave them poking around, bumping into you and asking you for money indefinitely is to eject them. _____________________
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Petronilla Whitfield
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03-29-2008 13:10
You did not over react.
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Hugsy Penguin
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03-29-2008 13:26
I was working on a product last night... For those who haven't been by, the best way to describe my shop is a huge hangar with smaller buildings inside. I was inside one of my inner buildings, scripting a catwalk, the doors closed and locked on bothe the hangar and the building I was in... A super-tan male avie wearing a 20m radius facelight and bling on everything wanders over from the adult club next door, hovers outside, and starts shouting in potruguese. Not speaking portuguese, I wasn't sure whether or not he was speaking to me. Then he IMs me in portuguese. I reply that I don't speak his language. He banged futilly on the door for a minute, then sit-warped into the hangar, walked the length of the hangar, walked into the building I was working in, up the catwalk, and stood on the pressure sensitive prim I was working on. He said something in Potuguese again. I again told him I do not speak his language. He fired up a translator program, and I asked him what he wanted. he said "I can be here?" I told him no, the store wasn't opened yet, which is why the door was locked. Then he asked me for $2l. I introduced him to my friends Freeze, Ban, and Eject. He landed on my house in the adjoining plot, so I FBE'd him again. He bounced across the road to my pond, and I FBE'd him a third time. He was stuck in a solo game of avie-pong across the road for a few minutes, then poofed. Was this too extreme, or would any of you have done the same thing? Should I have attempted to have more polite discourse with him before sending him into perpetual pong? After he asked for the money, I would have pointed him towards the Lindex since that's what I do when queried like that. After that, I'd see what he does. He might just go away at which point I'd forget about it. I don't think the way you handled it was bad or an overreaction though. Regardless of whether he was bothering you purpose or was new and didn't know any better, he'll get over it. --Hugsy _____________________
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Har Fairweather
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03-29-2008 13:33
I recognize this pattern. There is a sub-species of griefer that proceeds step by little step to find out how much crap you will take from them. They will not stop and have no limit except the ones you set.
I have no idea what reward they get from this behavior, but there really is only one answer: Get rid of them quickly and as emphatically as feasible. And don't waste time interacting with them afterward, because they will take it as an opportunity to start their limit-testing game all over again. Drop the hammer on them, and they usually don't come back, so I infer it is getting away with dumping crap on you that somehow rewards them. Have compassion for their sick, passive-aggressive little minds if it makes you feel better, but have absolutely no mercy. They have marked you for their victim, not their therapist. |
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Qie Niangao
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03-29-2008 13:51
You couldn't have asked him what he'd be willing to do for L$ 2 ?
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Annabelle Babii
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03-29-2008 14:05
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 14:12
I don't own land but I have rented a place where the previous occupant had set a lm, and was still in the group. I was butt naked in my own paid for living space when this person materialised into my home, told me he was the previous renter and then proceeded to ask me if i wanted a boyfriend.
When I explained that I had a real life partner who is also my partner in sl I really wasn't interested and.. please could he leave as I wanted to be alone. He then offered to pay half rent so he could live there too. I'm not an angry person in real life, but I felt real anger that this person was ignoring the fact that I wanted to be alone, I felt vulnerable and so I banned him. But unbelieveably I felt bad afterwards. Why? God knows. I feel your pain and the fact that you're here asking if you did the right thing is telling me that you feel that your anger got the better of your judgement, and does it make you a bad person. It makes you human, and you were busy building in YOUR space, there's no way in hell I would of tp'd away and let him be. I do think the idea of sending a notecard explaining the reason why is a good idea, for your own peace of mind, he's probably not given it another thought to be honest but i think it would put a closure on it for you. Bless you, you sound like a decent person, and you deserve your own space. Everyone does x |
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Annabelle Babii
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03-29-2008 14:28
It makes you human, Bless you, you sound like a decent person, >.> <.< Lies! Lies I say!  _____________________
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-29-2008 14:34
I don't own land but I have rented a place where the previous occupant had set a lm, and was still in the group. I was butt naked in my own paid for living space when this person materialised into my home, told me he was the previous renter and then proceeded to ask me if i wanted a boyfriend. Er, well, this is the point at which one right-clicks, or activates the security device, or whatever is appropriate. And then composes an AR. It doesn't do to be too exercised by this sort of thing. If there is one thing I have learnt from my time on the Aethernet it is to simply cease communication and take whatever measures are appropriate to eject the miscreant as quickly as possible (and not mess about with freezing and "decoration" either, I find that a bit childish; the point of freezing is to allow time to find the right eject option, and perhaps to check whether this is an alt of a friend playing a joke). Anybody who actually thinks that TPing into a random stranger's personal space and asking them if they want a boyfriend is acceptable behaviour really does need to learn some basic politeness. _____________________
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Deira Llanfair
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03-29-2008 14:38
Oh dear - that's so funny
I think you did over react a bit - one FBE would probably been sufficient.I guess we can't help asking ourselves whether we could have handled such a situation better - but it's water under the bridge now. _____________________
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 14:43
Er, well, this is the point at which one right-clicks, or activates the security device, or whatever is appropriate. And then composes an AR. To be honest I was shocked that he was even there, was slow on the right click and I've been here for less than 2 months, and naive I guess and slow. I did blacklist him on the security device and evict him.. reading back what I said makes me look a bit simple doesn't it? :\ I'm not a net newb, just an sl newb.. and still trying to figure out what the hell i'm here for |
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Annabelle Babii
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03-29-2008 14:45
and still trying to figure out what the hell i'm here for Pie? _____________________
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 14:45
>.> <.< Lies! Lies I say! Not human.. neko? If so then let me pick your brains on some good clothing shops please |
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 14:45
Pie? More of a cheesecake lass really. |
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Annabelle Babii
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03-29-2008 14:48
Not human.. neko? If so then let me pick your brains on some good clothing shops please I'm not neko, sorry. Just be quiet about the "nice" thing... you'll ruin my rep. I'm undead or dragon depending on my mood. Someday I'll get bored and make a dracolich avie. _____________________
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Hugsy Penguin
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03-29-2008 14:52
I don't own land but I have rented a place where the previous occupant had set a lm, and was still in the group. I was butt naked in my own paid for living space when this person materialised into my home, told me he was the previous renter and then proceeded to ask me if i wanted a boyfriend. When I explained that I had a real life partner who is also my partner in sl I really wasn't interested and.. please could he leave as I wanted to be alone. He then offered to pay half rent so he could live there too. I'm not an angry person in real life, but I felt real anger that this person was ignoring the fact that I wanted to be alone, I felt vulnerable and so I banned him. But unbelieveably I felt bad afterwards. Why? God knows. You obviously did the right thing by banning him. I dont think it's a bad thing that you felt a little bad afterwards. It means you're a good person who cares about others (even those who wronged you). Please don't change and let the bad people get you down. Not everyone in this world, the other, or the one after that is out to get you. --Hugsy _____________________
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 14:57
I'm not neko, sorry. Just be quiet about the "nice" thing... you'll ruin my rep. I'm undead or dragon depending on my mood. Someday I'll get bored and make a dracolich avie. So more fire and brimstone than milk and cookies? ( or cheesecake ) To be honest a dracolich sounds way more exciting than being a neko, will it go from living to decomposing? |
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 14:58
You obviously did the right thing by banning him. I dont think it's a bad thing that you felt a little bad afterwards. It means you're a good person who cares about others (even those who wronged you). Please don't change and let the bad people get you down. Not everyone in this world, the other, or the one after that is out to get you. --Hugsy Hugsy... thank you xx |
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Annabelle Babii
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03-29-2008 15:03
So more fire and brimstone than milk and cookies? ( or cheesecake ) To be honest a dracolich sounds way more exciting than being a neko, will it go from living to decomposing? it would have to be an awfully fast decomposition or an awfully slow scritpt... although I suppose I could use the date...... hmmmmmmmmm _____________________
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-29-2008 15:06
To be honest I was shocked that he was even there, was slow on the right click and I've been here for less than 2 months, and naive I guess and slow. I did blacklist him on the security device and evict him.. reading back what I said makes me look a bit simple doesn't it? :\ I'm not a net newb, just an sl newb.. and still trying to figure out what the hell i'm here for Oh no, don't worry, quite sensible, it is always a shock to discover that people really _can_ be that dim and rude and presumptuous, and it isn't some sort of mistake, some sort of cultural misunderstanding or whatever. A reasonable person will always err on the side of generosity to begin with. _____________________
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Ricardo Harris
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03-29-2008 15:06
Nope! I'd have bounced him the moment he entered the hanger, let alone walked over to your inner building. Exactly. Can I have your autograph? |
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 15:06
it would have to be an awfully fast decomposition or an awfully slow scritpt... although I suppose I could use the date...... hmmmmmmmmm It's a thought lol (btw if you do.. i'd love to see it. I do love a good decomposition) |
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Ricardo Harris
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03-29-2008 15:09
sounds way more exciting than being a neko, Oh, oh, now you went and did it. Quick, hide and hope Launay doesn't see this. |
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Mosley Latte
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03-29-2008 15:12
Oh no, don't worry, quite sensible, it is always a shock to discover that people really _can_ be that dim and rude and presumptuous, and it isn't some sort of mistake, some sort of cultural misunderstanding or whatever. A reasonable person will always err on the side of generosity to begin with. I've stumbled on private property before, not knowing that I wasn't welcome. Frst thing I saw after all the chat about the torch and stuff was the fly button and that was it for me, I was free as a bird (apart from those ban lines, they can put a bit of a full stop on the graceful glide that you were enjoying) So I'm probably as understanding as the next person, I know what it's like to learn your boundaries, and thank you Ordinal |
