Looking for Help to Formulate a Jira Proposal to Get Rid of Ad Farms

This idea is different and better, because it doesn't limit how small a parcel you can create or own in a sim, but it does apply economic pressure to ad farmers.

Strife, this IS a social solution, not a technical one -- actually, more acturately, it is an economic solution -- tier fees -- which, if history is any judge, is the MOST effective means of change.

Ok I've gotcha now. In that case, your proposal already exists: created July 7, 2007. Here's the link:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-400

On reflection, I actually like this idea the best. I would propose (and I will in the JIRA comments) that we exempt certain groups like the Arbor Project from this tier penalty.

You could also put an "upper price limit" on per square metre land sales. Keep it high - say L$20/sq m, that is way above what most land goes for - and will stop the L$20,000 for a 16 sq m plot, which is L$1250/square metre.

Might not stop extortionists, but it'll certainly screw their income.

I've collected as many of the ad-farm related JIRA issues as I could find into a Meta-Issue; this makes it easier for people to track. That issue is here:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-608


You can vote for it to express your general displeasure with ad-farms, or pick and choose which proposals you like best.

id love to vote, but jira refuses to allow me to log in.

I made a 1 prim cube, 4x4x800 that goes from teh ground all the way up to 800 meters and fits perfect on a 16 sq meter plot

it says 'Stop Ad Farms' and 'End The Clutter'

if you want a free copy for your land just send me a IM in world

Here's a completely social solution to the problem... (and I don't want zoning either)
Every time you see an ad farm, IM the owner (and the advertised store/service) and let them know that you will never support their business.

Pass the info around to all your friends, and have them do the same thing. Eventually businesses will realize that ad-farming is counter-productive. If enough people do this, they'll have to quit or turn off their IMs - which doesn't help business. If they DO shut off IM, start sending them notecards. (note - each person should send the contact once - repeated IM could be seen as greifing)

As far as ARs go, there's two megaprim casino ads behind my house. I've ARed them several times with no response.

I've made an anti ad farm sign as well that says "Do not support ad farms!", only 10x10 though, but it's full mod/copy/trans with the other side transparent. When you click it gives a notecard, which can also be customized to your liking. It can be obtained for free from my "Shop of Random Stuff" in Goremoor/26/230/107.

since they break no rules, what kind of response did you expect??!?

Advertising casinos is against policy.

no it is not


its only a violation to advertise in the classifeds or the pacel 'places' search

If it is a add for a 'off world' casino its perfectly legal

Can you make it rotate and flash?

done.

thanks for the suggestion

Cool! I just bought a 512 m lot, I could put 32 of those bad boys on it! But of course I won't cut it into 16 m squares, I will leave it whole.

it can be VERY easily mod'ed to make it a 32x16x800 1 prim covered in the texture of your choice, and perhaps /99 spin on /99 flash on as well

Considering casinos are against TOS....

These are an ad for an in-world casino complete with teleport

For what its worth:

At the end of the day, what everyone seems to want is to make it so Ad Farms are no longer an issue: that's our common cause. Where we differ is in the implementation. Some folks are taking a punative approach, others are taking a nullification approach.

I've politicked for issues near & dear to my heart over the years - and if there's one thing I've learned: Don't waste your energy on solutions that Linden will clearly never implement. No matter how many votes are cast, or how loudly members of the community yell - we truly dont live in a democracy when it comes to feature enhancements. Recognizing that reality will better help us craft goals that are acheivable.

Solutions that make Second Life as a platform *less* flexible, or only appease a subset of the community, or dips into Linden's bottom line are on the short-list for being ignored.

Keep that in mind when you're hashing out ideas on the best way to solve this problem. While all of the solutions being proposed address the issue of Ad Farms in some way, arguably many of them involve making the Second Life platform less flexible - and greatly reduce the chances they'll get serious attention.

unfortunately, i believe you are spot on.

It's kinder to your neighbors to simply put a tree on the land rather than add even more clutter to the mess by putting up anti-ad boxes. I'm fairly sure poopmaster was just joking, but one of my neighbors actually did go out of their way to design an ati-ad spinner and from the perspective of someone who has to look at all the other ads daily- adding to the clutter with anti-ad clutter simply doesn't help the problem. Not at all. Big linden trees are low prim ways to help to tone down the glaring pain of clutter and adding to the beauty of the sim helps increase property value and if you're lucky- may also attract other residents who like landscaped areas.

/end pet peeve

Does anyone actually shop for tiny parcels? I thought their value was extorting the locals?

Yup, they do. Sad but true that some people actually think that these things work.

As much as I dislike ad farms, they're never going away. You might as well try to stop banner ads or commercials.

Don't waste your time.