wtf would YOU have done!

* sigh *

nobody ever understands me.

Oh I know he's clever. It's his Achilles heal. Hard to argue innocence, to paint a picture of good intention, when you have the capacity to be clever. The system may be forgiving, it may turn a blind eye but it isn't stupid.

And the part I really can't get my head around is the *depth* of the loss they apparently perceive. If one dips into the official feedback thread on pretty much any page, one will find a Very Sad Story about somebody of limited means who's built something glorious on their OpenSpace and just can't imagine continuing in SecondLife without exactly an OpenSpace configuration.

Just to comment on this specifically: One thing is whether things *can* be build under other configurations; another is what has already been built. It is pay up or lose it, holding the *existing* builds (including the island setup fee and cost to acquire land somewhere else to rebuild) hostage, which I can certainly understand people feeling angry and betrayed over.

Oh I know he's clever. It's his Achilles heal. Hard to argue innocence, to paint a picture of good intention, when you have the capacity to be clever. The system may be forgiving, it may turn a blind eye but it isn't stupid.

Holy shit, I'm impressed. With paragraphs you come across as articulate and intelligent; a definite improvement over your usual style of vulgarity. With all candor if you keep this up people might just come to respect you for what you have to say, not just be amused with your antics.

I think Jumpy should keep his obsession with human excrement to himself.

Anyone should be allowed to have whatever kinks they want but we shouldn't have to hear about it.

FFS, Jumpy, USE PARAGRAPHS.

Edited for clarity:

hopefully you spell checked it before you sent it off (not for spelling errors, just for typos). Otherwise, well written.

Jump - you have surprised me once again and I am much impressed. Nice job (other than the lack of paragraphs that Oryx was kind enough to assist with).

Not to rehash the pros and cons of the price hike (oh, please God, not that), but I have to say that I'm concerned about this one having deeper, longer term effects than the usual LL policy bombs.

Those damned cheap OpenSpaces were popular. As a result, there are a lot of residents who will feel they lost from this. Lots more than "banking", "sexual ageplay", or "casinos", I think.

And the part I really can't get my head around is the *depth* of the loss they apparently perceive. If one dips into the official feedback thread on pretty much any page, one will find a Very Sad Story about somebody of limited means who's built something glorious on their OpenSpace and just can't imagine continuing in SecondLife without exactly an OpenSpace configuration.

I mean, most people and projects did just fine on full-primmed sims for a long time before super-cheap OpenSpaces were introduced. Now it seems every other possible siting is unacceptable. (Just search for "mainland" in that thread to see how utterly folks dismiss any thought of using what was for years the predominant land configuration for everything.) How did we get so dependent on this OpenSpace packaging so fast?

But anyway, it doesn't matter how we got that way, nor whether it's good or bad; what matters is that it sure seems to have happened, and hence people are taking this very much more seriously than just the financials would warrant.

Given the new pricing, OpenSpaces are pretty much obsolete, as far as I can tell. They're mighty expensive land-/seascape surrounds to full sims. For uses involving builds, price-per-prim is way higher than alternatives. I can't see who should want one at the new price, except maybe a few who are prepared to pay just for privacy and not much else. So the new price is not so much adjusting a fee as it is removing a packaging option from the market.

But all that said, I don't know how much the partners really need to know. For one thing, I really expect some revision of the posted policy, so giving all the gory details now might not be a service to them anyway.

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About style: I've always been impressed that Jumpman can do Jumpy. I couldn't even do ikklespeak without a dialog coach.

Actually I'm not surprised. There has often been a brain behind that 49cent gangsta facade that Jumpman puts forward. It is a very thoughtful, level headed and pragmatic approach. Well done. And to your editor as well.

Well, now, this is interesting. I knew about the clear thinking and pragmatism, Jump, but the inspirational tone surprises me.

I agree with the main thrust of your argument, however. This land disruption, like the rest in LL's past, will pass. The scars may be deep, but on the day-to-day surface, won't be seen. It must be irritating to those who are responsible for building LL's community, to see so much good will wiped out by one badly rolled out decision.

Tangential comment: Your last line seems to indicate that you are offering your partners a chance to get in on the ground floor of the pornography industry in "Web 3.0". Indeed a huge business opportunity. If that is what you're actually doing here, my professional opinion is that you are not building your brand in the swiftest way - and speed is of the essence. (I'm assuming here that the public actions of Jumpy are all that you're doing in this vein, which may be wrong).
I think this has actually surprised LL as well. The number of impassioned SL users who saved their pennies to build a dream for a small subcommunity seems to be VERY large.

Weirdly, this particular land spasm seems to be better than any ad campaign imaginable at targeting SL users who may be willing to stick it out over at Openlife. Think about these attributes of the kind of Open Space users you're talking about, Qie:
> On a limited budget (Openlife is quite cheap)

> Passionately wanted to build something glorious (Openlife build tools will eventually be a generation beyond SL's, prim limits are higher, etc.)

> Part of a small, closely knit subgroup that did not mind being in some isolation from the rest of the grid so long as they were together (Openlife does not have the community that SL has)

If even 200 such subcommunities go to Openlife, it will be a big plus for them. I think such growth will ultimately be healthy for both Openlife and SL.

Edit: I've quoted Jumpy and Qie in the same thread response. /me faints!
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LOL I've always highly suspected that Jumpy was just his/her roleplay and that there really is a human behind it.

Holy shit, I'm impressed. With paragraphs you come across as articulate and intelligent; a definite improvement over your usual style of vulgarity. With all candor if you keep this up people might just come to respect you for what you have to say, not just be amused with your antics.

Jumpy's "antics" posts are just as cleverly crafted, and with just as much thought and effort as the OP here in this thread. It might be difficult to see this, but I think you will find it is actually the case.

I agree with you, Ciaran! I'm also quite unclear as to why there seemed to be no "controls" on these OpenSpaces. And just for the record... Jump, I'm really impressed! I think this is the first time I've actually understood anything you've ever written. (Thanks too, to your editor!)

Peace out...
Zena

Oh I know he's clever. It's his Achilles heal. Hard to argue innocence, to paint a picture of good intention, when you have the capacity to be clever. The system may be forgiving, it may turn a blind eye but it isn't stupid.

I think Jumpy should keep his obsession with human excrement to himself.

Anyone should be allowed to have whatever kinks they want but we shouldn't have to hear about it.