wtf would YOU have done!

Openlife though is not intended for adult only use if you're using the main grid from
what I read. It is for 15 + and up.
Stand alone Openlife I am not sure if there are same conditions or regulations though.

<- owned a The Sims original content web site way back when. Also was a TSO refugee

I did go back to EA land because they allowed custom content uploads. Then they killed that. LOL

Its simple truth we can either pay for the use of SL or not there is not another choice.

Moving over to other games or competing platforms is just choosing not to pay for SL. For the forseeable future my home is in SL. That is what I personally choose. I am not a LL groupie or a mainland fanboy. I would have loved to keep our PI but it was not an option. I love what SL offers to me and my family. Nothing else comes close YET.

I am not to fond of all the money it cost to be here either or mainland but
I don't feel at this point there is much of another choice.
I have looked into Openlife for some reason it intimidates me.
I personally would love strictly offline version of Second Life where I can create,
do anything to my hearts desire without having to put out thousands of dollars
on with some way to still talk to friends, socialize and sell content if and when
I choose.
I just don't exactly see how to do this at this point outside of SL.
Yet I must I am getting tired of how things are run and function in SL but
there very few other options at this point.
I love my friends I have made in SL, I love creating in SL. I enjoy going to different events
and places in SL but at same time thing getting harder and harder to enjoy due to fact
I don't have equipment or money to create, fund a space.
I may go up in tier but at very heavy cost to myself or may choose not too but
at this time living, renting or owning island or sim isn't a option for me in any where in near future.
I feel the pain for those in 0S who loved the space and water we all would love to have
affordable space like that but still majority are paying around 30k in L for it still a whole lot
of money for low quality sim. People paying 75 to over 100 usd for low quality sim.
That just doesn't make finicial sense.
Yet mainland we can be paying for entire sim at 195 and have neighbors draining off
the resources too and LL won't, can't or doesn't have ability to do a thing about it.
Does paying 295 a month actually improve the quality of life for island owners?
I still have heard few complain about issues even though they concierge level
it doesn't make me feel very confident in owning one even if I did have the 5k
or some a year in usd to spend on that.

LOL I've always highly suspected that Jumpy was just his/her roleplay and that there really is a human behind it.

Having a private island did improve the quality of our SL for a very long time. In the end it was billing errors that cost my partner thousands of dollars ruining his credit and giving him ulcers that forced us to give it up. The only advice I an give inexperienced PI owners is do not EVER take your billing date as set in stone. My Partner was billed up to 5 DAYS early causing him to hav nsf in the account and causing a double billing situation and insane penalties both form his bank and LL. It did get sorted. LL to give them credit did remove the double charges and eventually the fees. Nothing got him the hundreds of dollars in fees from the credit card company back or repaired his credit history. Now we live on a much simpler scale and the money is there weeks in advance. No more stress or worries.

Good observations. I should confess, however, that in the feedback thread I took the opposite stance: that other grids weren't yet technically advanced enough for the folks most apt to flee repriced OpenSpace sims, and that by going "too soon" those users would be reluctant to go back to the other grid even when it was really ready to accommodate their expectations.

But I think your point is well-taken: if even a small percentage of visitors "stick" in Openlife it could have a big impact there. (That's quite different from one of the party games in the feedback thread: invoking the threat of other grids as a weapon for Linden-bashing.)

No and this is quite frankly the worst decision Linden Lab have ever made. They have ruined trust and confidence on a scale never before seen. They encouraged the growth of openspaces, they should take responsibility. This really is a bad place for Linden Lab to be. They have fucked up big time.

I would say opening up free accounts on a Grid that couldn't handle the load thus crippling the world for months was the worst thing they ever did as it affected everyone.

This is a definitely the 2nd worst thing though.

just informed my estate owner i won`t be able to stay if this goes trough, 110-120 euro for a simple house and a couple of trees, lol?

couple of bucks for a 1024 aslong they don`t raise full sim prices to $395-$495, mainland can burn for all i care...

I agree with you, Ciaran! I'm also quite unclear as to why there seemed to be no "controls" on these OpenSpaces. And just for the record... Jump, I'm really impressed! I think this is the first time I've actually understood anything you've ever written. (Thanks too, to your editor!)

Peace out...
Zena

Whilst I disagree that you can compare the legislative changes to price policy, that's otherwise very well put together.

WTF would I do? OK I don't have the coding understanding to see what difference it would make to server load but what I would do is give people the option not to render outside their own parcel which they own, if necessary. I've been told this SHOULD be relatively easy. That would make mainland living a lot more attractive to people, knowing that if someone builds a monster next door they can just choose to see the sky.

Yes people should have the right to build what they like, but surely they should also be able to select what they do not wish to see. Or would that screw things up too much when SL is basically one big corporate advertisement with people dotted about here and there?

I stand by my cynicism on this point. Personally, if I was LL, I'd have made the prim limit LOWER not higher. Then again they wouldn't have had the income from the Openspace that came up.

You can't have your cake and eat it at the end of the day, and it is as usual the people who have not done anything wrong (the people who have not rammed their sim full to capacity of prims, who are not running a bazillion scripts, are not running temp rezzers other than perhaps like me having a rezzer with a couple of butterflies or birds as decor, who have no clubs and who if they are using it as home means mainly that they actually TP there now and then) who pay the price. It's ALWAYS the people who are just quietly and without a fuss using their dosh to prop up the economy without being an asshat who pay ultimately in every way.

True but then we're all being steered like the cattle we are when we fall for it.

Ciaran is spot on. Times of economic stress often create dictatorships - I think the only difference here is that we all knew (or should have) that LL was a dictatorship from the day you sign up. We accepted that - we did mainly accept that as the price to pay for having SL. The pioneer spirit which drove the place and made it fun, made people willing to support and take a chance - well we know what they thought of the pioneers and innovators don't we.

Yeah LL is a business, I've pointed that one out myself often enough working as I do in a virtual entertainment field RL. But as Ciaran says, this has indeed undermined trust - there was no way that LL really thought if people had the access to a "cheap sim" that some people would fill it to capacity and create a resource issue. Or rather if they really were that short sighted then they have learned nothing from observing their user base all these years.

Hang on ... those pioneers again ... where are they now? They've scarpered that's where they are.

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thing is, this dictator is doing bend over or die

i`d settle with a prim reduction to the old levels of 1875 as if i wanted, i`d still have a good amount of prims free, they`re as usual to stupid to ask befor acting as i`ll bet enough people would have sacrificed back to half prim vs 67% price increase as it leaves us with no option at all but to tell our estate owners "sorry" for them to get stuck with worthless land

LOL not all of them I know. A lot have tho, unless they've got alts instead.

/me hands Susie an Enter key ... that was impossible to digest like that, sorry, you might have made some excellent points but my eyes told my brain where to go when I tried to read it

Dictators tend to be dictatorial

If that is what it took - a dip in prims - yeah I'd be fine with that. The only reason I have openspace is so I can be 100% sure not to have anything I make subject to the whimsy of others who may not share my view. TBH most of the space even when I had mainland was open views (living in a basement apartment of a huge heavy overshadowing Georgian townhouse, on a street full of them, makes you crave light and open spaces!).

* sigh *

nobody ever understands me.

/me grins... I think we need that editor again.....

I need glasses Susie - I had an eye test recently and they said I was fine unless driving, then I'd need them, but it's a monitor I have trouble reading properly on lol.

I pretty much want to Leave SL since of all of this and sell my remaining sims, to me LL as a company is a joke to me, some of their staff cares but can't do anything to help and have to be "robotic" about it, which in turns makes me a sim owner want to leave since I can't get any help at all, I feel like I mean nothing and as a sim owner I am pretty much am.

If my RL wasn't in hell, I might tried to remain but with all this scrap that Linden Labs I pretty much want to leave.

Holy shit, I'm impressed. With paragraphs you come across as articulate and intelligent; a definite improvement over your usual style of vulgarity. With all candor if you keep this up people might just come to respect you for what you have to say, not just be amused with your antics.

Fabulous! Thanks 2k! This has made my weekend! Totally fabulous! I love your sense of humour - keep it going!

Jumpy's "antics" posts are just as cleverly crafted, and with just as much thought and effort as the OP here in this thread. It might be difficult to see this, but I think you will find it is actually the case.

Oh I know he's clever. It's his Achilles heal. Hard to argue innocence, to paint a picture of good intention, when you have the capacity to be clever. The system may be forgiving, it may turn a blind eye but it isn't stupid.