Land bot misuse, warning and reminder

I have put forward a proposal for the 5 minute grace idea into the feature suggestions, so if you like the idea, put forward your vote! It's number 3371 at http://secondlife.com/vote/.

I kinda hate to say this, but... anyone who sets their land for sale to Anyone, and then clicks through the confirmations, is *almost certainly NOT* going to double-check the results during a 5-minute "hold" period.

'course... I can't imagine anyone (with a brain) would complain about a 5-minute hold, so... as long as it doesn't cause a new big resource drain on the system...

Just FYI Taylor the "official" proposal area is now JIRA. Here's the home page:

https://jira.secondlife.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa

Your idea has already been proposed and is here:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-376

You need to login to JIRA (upper right corner) and vote for this issue if you like the idea. Voting is all the way down on the left menu, under 'Operations' I believe. Good plan; obviously someone else feels the same way!

Yep, was thinking about putting it into JIRA, but thought they may point me to the feature request bit, but stoked that someone else has proposed it! Fanks for the heads up!

It's bad GUI design to have a dialogue box that pops up on a key-press, also be confirmed on that same key-press. Confirmation boxes for things of importance (selling land, granting debit permissions and such-like) should NEVER have a default option you can trigger with a key-press, you should always have to actually move to and click. Forces the user to actually consider what it is they're doing rather than just hitting enter till things go away =)

I have an idea how this could have happened.

The other night, I was changing the parcel music stream on a piece of property. I had entered the url but hadn't pressed OK or even left the entry box.

Some message came in that needed a response or perhaps I needed to look in inventory. When the "About Land" dialog with the parcel media tab active and the cursor inside the music URL field *lost focus* the dialog acted as if an "Apply" button (which isn't there) was pressed, thus changing the music stream.

I don't own land, nor would I want to test that dialog for sales if I did, but that was really horrible UI behavior in the same dialog box.

As my Cambodian friend, Phuc Dat, is fond of saying, "why do I have to vote to have my supplier fix obviously broken product, shouldn't reporting it be sufficient or is my supplier a dope?"

(Okay, I don't really know anyone named "Phuc Dat", but I did have a customer named "Phuc Din", so it isn't that much of a reach.)

Was his cousin Phuc Yu? I may know him.

And as I said, of course this could happen, never disputed that, even agreed. But in the case you posted, nope. Go back and read what you pointed at.

I don't think the 5 min grace period would work.. I don't mean to stir or anything but I truly do not think its a good idea, imagine if someone is trying to offload some land quickly, they set at a price see how quick the bots buy it..then undo it by using their 5 min grace period then try again asking for a little more this time and so on...

The same if it was not a bot buying it but another legit resident..the seller may think.. "oooh they were quick they want this..hmm maybe L$1 more per sq meter..hmmm"


But then I am British and wont buy land now so what do I know!

Yes, but with what I was thinking, and what I think everyone else had in mind is that NOONE could buy it in that period. Therefore, none of that would happen.

Oops scratch what I said then...






I must learn NOT to speed read!

Ok. Speculation and arguing is worthless. The main point of my OP is to warn those that don't know about landbots to never set your land to anyone unless you want a landbot to take it.

My Aunt actually had a client named that. Well she didn't, but the person who had that client didn't want to go into the waiting room and yell that out, so my aunt did.

But then there is no need to panic over selling land either.

Right now I am in the process of shuffling several parcels between different land owning groups. This process requires selling parcels to myself for L$0.

With some basic care (e.g. setting my name as recipient first before entering any price) this turns out to be no problem at all. It's like driving a car: Just keep cool and stay aware of what you're doing.

Exactly, my point was that your speculation was worthless given it did not fit with the facts.

And your criticizing of my speculation adds a lot to this forum as well.

You get to have the last word. Congratulations. Sorry, no cash and prizes. Just smug satisfaction for you today, curmudgeon.

Wow, you certainly have some issues. You were the one who responded my reply to Starfire with something that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying as if it was somehow significant. Why you felt you needed to do that I have no idea. But now somehow you have some sort of issues with me clarifying that. I posted to clarify that. Who is it that prolonged things unnecessarily?

What abount an option when selling land that DEFAULTS to where finalization of the sale requires a confirmation by the selling party at the time of the sale?

If someone doesn't want to have to worry with this (allowing bots and instant sells) they would have to UNCHECK this box.