Is sl 'jerking' you around ?

I mean this literally ...of late when I am walking the sensation of suddnely being jerked backwards and pulled back to where I was several minutes before is becoming more common...

Any one else suffering this..and more importantly any idea why ?

That's called LAG ... SL is very laggy lately ... it's even laggy in my own land w/ only 2 people

Yeah, the traditional rubber-band effect -- and often preceeded by uncontrolled walking/flying thru the wall or into the next sim or into never never land.

Yup noticed this a lot more lately.

Doesnt seem like lag...lag normally affects chat.... this actually affects movement...getting so far and then suddenly being pulled back to a position i was in sometime before.

Ive not experienced it as often as I am doing now...

Yes, I've had this for quite some time.

If you can, try to watch and see if an avatar has TP'd into the sim at the moment it happens. I will, almost without fail, rubber band if I am walking and a new avi enters the sim. There is a JIRA about this, looking at a potential problem with Mono. The theory is that it happens when people TP in because they are wearing mono scripted attachments, which appear to have a greater negative impact than they should on sim FPS.

Here is a JIRA where you can find out more:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3895

**edit to add - as I said, I've seen this for awhile, but I also feel it is getting worse.

/me points again to SVC-4616.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4616

Yep, it's definitely worse for me and I'm noticing it more in SL than anywhere else.

Thanks and voted.

I pointed to the other one because I have been watching it for some time, but I am willing to believe mono isn't the only problem. Something is very wrong, and the issue doesn't seem to be getting anywhere near enough attention. I think spreading the word about the issue, and these and the other related JIRAs is important, even though it may yield no attention from the Lindens. Thanks again.

It's interesting. I've been seeing it too, but in two distinct ways. On one Mainland sim (Myron), the effect is due to the sim itself lagging, which is easy to see in the Statistics bar. That sim has had problems even before 1.27--I've asked it to be restarted twice in the recent past, which cleared the lag for a time; I asked again a couple days ago (mentioning the small box of bots this time, which may have slowed response). I suspect that the root cause of this one is the old bug with stranded scripts continuing to demand resources after they're no longer actually present in the sim.

On other sims, I see it just when I enter the sim, while loading all the textures and prims. The sims themselves seems fine according to Statistics, but I get horrendous rubber-banding at first. I'm not sure what's going on with this, exactly--it could be any of the several 1.27 performance problems reported in the jira--but it sure seems to be a new thing since 1.27.

The thing I have experienced lately, is exiting appearance mode, and then a few seconds later I spin back as if I'm back in appearance mode and "exit" again..

Spend a lot of time running on the spot these days. And watching other people doing this as well. Also things like group taichi are out of sync far more now. More so than a month or so ago.

Building has been problematic lately. Edits un-do themselves way more often than is reasonable.

Boingggg has always happened.

/me also points at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-side_prediction...

This is why, when i'm going on my SVC-4616 rant, I tell people to fly in circles to see the problem. It takes the sim being alive and sending you updates and make you turn. If the sim locks up, you go flying straight as client-side prediction takes over and tries to cover for the lack of sim updates. Once the sim wakes up again, you 'snap' back to where the sim thinks you should be..

That's not a bug, it's a new feature to test whether you really wanted to make that edit or not

There's a thought I hadn't considered

Maybe the next step is to do away with shape editing altogether. To get our avatars looking fabulously gorgeous we have to go to a virtual gym or run around the block, and eat vegetables. arrghhh!!!

I get that a lot both when walking and flying especially in places where there are a lot of people.

Yes, both movement and lag are bad lately.

i've been here just over two years and it must be worse than ever because I cant say Ive noticed it before.

Lag yes... but this business of walking and then suddenly stopping as if hitting an invisible wall and being pulled backwards to a spot I was in earlier

it doesnt event relate to regional boundaries although Ive notice flying seems to be getting harder too.

this is happening to me every few seconds...and there certainly arent people tping into my region with that frequency.

on average every 10 steps...'yank back'

my conover performance metre gives the region a 'great' reading.

I think this is a new problem - or relatively new.

it's Lag..I remember the type 4 servers doing this all the time when they would get a crowd in them or had too much script candy on them..
it's like having a sim crossing moment every moment hehehe

Right: this is the second type of "lag" that I mumbled about before: sim is perfectly happy, but your client isn't getting updates. If it's happening to you everywhere all the time, you may want to investigate whether something is unhappy about your own network connection (reboot routers, threaten your ISP, etc.). But I am seeing it much more often than before, too, and not all the time, so I'm thinking there's a congestion or routing problem within LL's networks or its gateways to the Internet.

What's the sim fps at?