Home security orb -- is it necessary?

LOL! In Hate's case, she could put up a "Trespassers will be violated" sign... Just joshin with ya, Hate.

I met one of my very good SL friends that way my first day ^^ Plus we don't speak the same language lol..

But yeah, I didn't know where I was, stumbled ontot her property while she was sitting on her porch, she helped me out a bit and we've been friends ever since ^^

This is true -- and really, who cares if some loser is watching you from two sims away? That's not an intrusion. The intrusion is when they, you know, intrude -- invite themselves in, try and join in, etc.

I used to use a security orb many months ago when I was still feeling kind of nervous and shy, but I left it off 99% of the time. It had a feature though that I just loved, and that made me feel all safe and secure when I was at home. I could turn on a "911" setting and it would instantly 'kill' (teleport home) anyone on my land, who was not on the white-list. I never, ever actually used it, but it gave me a warm fuzzy sense of security knowing it was there

-Atashi

No, you could well be right. Given the sim I'm in, you sorta have to expect it. In fact, many might actually be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

I have amusing ones too .

I tp back home downstairs and peek up into the bedroom and find an escort and her client making themselves comfortable. I don't bother with the escort and simply tp her home, hopefully to a WA, stuck in an oral sex anim and focus the guy. He tried to pass it off as having fun with a friend until I pointed out that she had an escort title on. I make the poor guy squirm some more and then just tp him off as well.

Another time I tp back home to a couple mid-passion. They graciously offer to let me stay as long as I join them. After I point out it's actually my house the guy starts to grovel and apologize over and over, pointing out my house looks like so nice he just had to look (*every* trespasser seems to use that excuse ). They get dressed, leave and the guy pays me L$2500 for the inconvenience (why they couldn't rent their own house or a private room is just beyond me).

Another guy I found wandering around my other (entirely PG) house claimed the prim teddy bear on my bed reminded him of his childhood bear and he just had to come in to look at it closer. Oh, and for some reason that included his girlfriend who tp'ed over while he was talking to me

The guy who walked up to the front of my door, stood there and "masturbated" while his Xcite did all the talking.

The "Linden inspector" who cammed from outside my house and sat himself down in the chair next to me and told me to get naked.

And dozens and dozens more. I never used a security orb, access restrictions keep my houses nice and peaceful now *shrugs*.

Do you need one? No

Would you want one? That depends

When I rented land near a gay club I had several avs a day land at my house with their huge noob prim penises offering sex. When I would tell them to leave they became extremely bitchy and would end up arguing. I didn't have any kind of security device but I was very close to purchasing one.

Now that I rent land on an estate sim I have no problems whatsoever. It's much quieter and those just looking around are few and far between. I encourage anyone who wants to relax and enjoy my land to do so. If I'm not there, that's cool with me. If I'm there I'll either chat or tell you I'm busy but to make yourself at home. I've had no problems whatsoever and have had very nice conversations with people as a result.

One thing that does make a difference is that I do not have sex in SL. If I did then I would probably think differently.

I hate banlines with a passion and don't really get why security orbs are so popular, but if you want one they're there to use. But need? Nope

The same thing happened to me...except it was my orb doing that. When I got partnered and shifted my land into our group, my security orb no longer worked. It would just send messages.
I had to set the orb to "group owned" and share with group before it would work again.

my house is at 400 meters in the sky and the orb only bothers those that get too curious. I recently had a guy show up on my porch while my partner and I were "enjoying the fireplace rug" and he was all decked out in armor.
I asked him to leave. ....no answer....I suggested he leave...no answer....I began to freeze him and kick him when my orb sent him packing back home.

In the past, I've had friends that were girls and I have let them use my house to get away from people that were harassing them They used my house as a place to relax and get away from the busy SL world. (not all people have a home to go to and having a nice quiet place that is safe can mean so much to some)

I like security orbs...they leave my lower land wide open for people to travel around on while providing me some peace and quiet up in the sky.

/me giggles, I tried something else the one time there was an unwelcome visitor during an intimate moment, I rezzed a tip jar!

They got the hint and disappeared faster than we could have asked for...

I like your style Lizz!!!! (Nice touch on the orbit of burning body...lol. Wish I'd seen that one!)

Good point, Carl.

*sighs*

There are other aspects of privacy besides unwanted Peeping Toms camming in. There is preventing actual intrusion, for example. There is blocking spy devices and listening devices. There is having a safe haven from harrassment and griefing.

And you know, not everybody even knows how to Disable Camera View. Not only that, but not everybody who does know ever chooses to invade people's privacy with Disable Camera View in circumstances where it is obvious such spying is unwanted. In fact, I'm willing to believe something like 99%+ of the SL population does not do such a thing.

Privacy is not an absolute, 100%-perfect-or-nothing thing. It is on a sloiding scale that never quite gets to 100% (I daresay LL and law enforcement officials with subpoenas could spy on even the most secure island in SL). It starts at zero, but it doesn't have to stay at zero, no matter what busybodies, Peeping Toms and other perverts try to claim.

And it can be better than it is.

On JIRA there is a meta-JIRA, SVC-241, that draws together all the privacy related JIRAs. Go vote for it and for all the linked and related JIRAs that make sense to you.

PS There is a partial defense already against spying cammers: Go to Client>Character>Show Look At, and crosshairs will appear wherever a camera point of view is located. If there are more crosshairs than avatars in the room, someone is looking in from outside. It won't tell you who (and there is a JIRA for correcting that to vote on), but it will tell you you have company. I think there are some rude gestures you can equip and use at your contemptible little spier.

If her security system was editable, all she'd have to do is rein in the scan range. Some by default scan at 96m radius which will often reach into the neighboring plots and give the warnings but will be unable to do anything because you're not on their land.

I had that issue in my sim. Never paid attention to the range as I had no neighbors for a long time but once notified by them and my apologizing for the annoyance, I edited the range down to a much smaller sphere.

I myself use the security system from The Omega Concern. It works well on rented land also. Editable scan range, access list. Looks like a light switch essentially but is small enough to hide if desired.

As for needing one, that's a decision you have to make. No one can steal items from your house like in RL. However they can come in and make themselves at home and use all the toys you've left out. My system protects just my house, which is behind a thick tree line and wall from my public stone circle and cemetary. I don't mind that half of my land being used, just prefer to not find someone in my bed that I didn't drag in .

I also use one to protect my skybox when I am working on a build and don't really want to haul it all back into my inventory, not that anyone really has expressed a desire to copy my builds lol.

I certainly hope someone could be AR'd for that.

I hate orbs. I was looking at ADVERTISED rental property on a sim. The Sim owner had several rentals available, but while wandering and looking at the various homes for rent I ran into someone's orb, was rudely given scant seconds to respond, and TP'd away. No way I'd return to that sim to look again, much less rent there.

It was an SL bug about being at the sim's edge, that I was not aware of, and I took care of the problem two ways: 1) I asked the tenant to change the status to something less aggressive (black list only) and 2) the update has arrived, they'll be getting a new version.

The orbs and systems are generally fine, but sometimes there are quirks. That does not make them worthless.

i think if someone is using their private residence for private things, non PG things, the security orb is a nice feature. i know i don't want to accidentally come upon such a private moment. i prefer it to ban lines, but wish i had more than 8 seconds to get out... it takes me that long to bring up my landmarks.

too bad tho, it can't be turned off when no one is home...

So what if someone cams in, and sees an animation? Really, that's the least of it. If they can read your local chat, that to me is *much* more of an invasion. An orb can keep them outside of 20m. And of course, a radar like in Mystitools is helpful if you just want to keep yourself informed.

i am agreeing to the orb, just maybe with a longer exit-time window when no one is home.

In those situations I just hold down the S key and back up the way I came.

S key? ok, i'll try it. wut does that do?

Some people use AWSD instead of the directional keys to move.

AFAIK you're not on my friends list yet lol

gotcha!

Nobody should need a security 'orb'; they create lag for no good reason, while some are fairly sensible, they still ultimately generate some amount of script-work that wouldn't have been there otherwise. If you have one that scans every 15 seconds, imagine if five people have one, that's a script-based sensor going off every 3 seconds. Every single time it has to look for every valid object (avatars in this case) within range and store details about them, then fire the script. The script then has to check against it's list of allowed/banned avatars and perform some actions. Not nice.

Really we need a more flexible, 3d version of parcel permissions for access etc. Please see the following JIRA issue for that:
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-99

Or for improved in-world privacy see:
http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-241

(If you wish to vote on either of these then you may log-in using your Second Life user details. Always check that the address in your address bar reads as being a secondlife.com address first though!)

/me gasps .. I *thought* you'd been everso quiet lately! *hug*