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(New Search) Parcels won't show

Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-08-2007 16:25
Some parcels over my land won't show on the new search engine. Initially i thought it was because of "dunno were i finished in the list...", but after i've placed a classified on that parcel i've found the "mistery".
First the classified shows correctly, but when i click on it i see no objects (for sale) into the parcel, and a message says:

"We're sorry: This item's privacy settings prevent us from showing you any further details about it."

..i don't know what that's means, but im spending money for nothing here. The land has "show on search" activated and the objects too. Anyone found a similar problem?
Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-08-2007 16:32
I reply to myself since i've found the problem here: the new search won't keep any other parcel than the first one (or the biggest?) in the region, i've checked several regions with different parcels inside, but when you click on that region from the new search it says: "Places in this Region:" ...but only 1 place/parcel is listed there.
Ok the new search still in beta, but they put it on the offical client, so the customers are using it, how is supposed they'll find something if only a portion of the obecjts inside a region are listed?
Kenbro Utu
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12-08-2007 18:42
I have 5 separate parcels in a sim, 4 which are marked and they show in search. It sounds like you have not clicked the "Show Place in Search" tab for all your parcels...
Henry Grumiaux
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12-08-2007 18:44
I've exactlly the same problem..

However my region can show me 2 parcels..not just one like you...
Nimue Jewell
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12-08-2007 18:46
Hi Vittorio. I am not sure I understand what you are describing. Do you fnd that each region only supports one classified? Or one parcel listing items for sale? Is this when you search for a region in the all part of search?

I just checked in my region (Takalo). I put the region name into search, clicked on it and see several parcels listed. When I click on them multiple parcels list items for sale. I didn't search for classified though. Is that what you did? Sorry if I am too dense to understand.
Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-08-2007 19:18
The problem, it seems, appeared before here:

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3498

and since i think it's related, i've reopened that ticket (marked as solved) adding more details.

@Nimue: the classified works correctly, it's the parcels that won't be "collected" by the search engine. If i search for my Region (SIM) with the new search, it shown the "places" on that region, and only ONE parcel is listed currently, while i have two on it (both correctly marked to show into the search.. in fact they shows up in the old search for places, and they are "old" so it's not a problem of 24-48 hours), so ANY object on that parcel that isn't collected by the search engine is NOT shown into the new search engine.
I've tried to mark/unmark things (shown on search etc.) but it doesn't work, so i guess the crawler is failing randomly while it collects the parcels (and the objects inside these parcels).
Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-08-2007 19:20
From: Kenbro Utu
I have 5 separate parcels in a sim, 4 which are marked and they show in search. It sounds like you have not clicked the "Show Place in Search" tab for all your parcels...


I've not only flagged the parcels correctly.. but i'm also paying that 30$L for each parcel to show into the search... :)
Cristalle Karami
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12-08-2007 19:30
It is probably related to the problem with only one classified ad showing up in the body of search - probably their anti-spam measures kicking in a little too aggressively.
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-08-2007 21:10
From: Cristalle Karami
It is probably related to the problem with only one classified ad showing up in the body of search - probably their anti-spam measures kicking in a little too aggressively.


Hummo.... what you mean with only one classified? They are correctly listed (both), the problem it's the parcel that is not, the "fun" part is that i have currently an ad (showing) on a parcel that doesn't exists (for the search engine).
And about spam.. well, i've created that parcel for that exact pourposes: spam! :D ...it's not because i do not trust about my products [modesty on]they are the best around[modesty off] but because it's this damn in-world business: i've figured in a less than 1 month that the challenge isn't who's putting much effort in his own creations, but of who exploits better the search engine (even with the new search engine). But let's return in-topic.
Cristalle Karami
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12-08-2007 21:26
I have 5 different classifieds, but only 1 shows up in the body of search for me, although they all show up in featured ads. It's bizarre.
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Kenbro Utu
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12-09-2007 01:55
Well, just a heads up to those having trouble getting their parcels to show, also check your products. There is a severe bug occurring, mostly on objects set to sell a copy (but occasionally on sell contents also), where after a purchase the Show in Search box become unchecked. Several people have verified this happening, including myself. It is being discussed on SLX here:

http://uncensored.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=31194&start=0

and the Jira issue here:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3755
Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-09-2007 13:01
I've listened about it... but i never had a prove of the problem. I randomly find my products with the show on search unflagged, but im not sure that's because they have been bought (and im sure it doesn't happen 100% of the times.. if it happens at all).
Anyway my parcel still in the limbo... i think it's time to open a ticket too.
Kenbro Utu
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12-09-2007 14:00
I have to keep track of sales and go around after and reset each item back to show on search. Others are having to do this also. :^/
Crystal Falcon
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12-09-2007 15:12
From: Cristalle Karami
I have 5 different classifieds, but only 1 shows up in the body of search for me, although they all show up in featured ads. It's bizarre.


I saw that too, a classified the other day on the featured side but not in the main list. Searching for any of the words or phrases in that ad came back with nothing found in the new search, although it was the only ad that showed up in the old classified search! :confused:
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Dekka Raymaker
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12-09-2007 15:25
I made sure i went around every item I have for sale on my land and set it to 'show in search' on Saturday i had 50 sales and everyone of those items had 'show in search' turned off, even those that sold more than one copy that day, for those items i had to check 'show in search' every time they were purchased.

It's 100% every time with every sale for me
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Starfire Desade
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12-09-2007 16:47
I have the same problem, and I have a theory...


I think they have a size limit on the search... parcels under a certain size are not listed, even though they are being paid for.

I don't know what this size is, as I have not had time to test it.
Alicia Sautereau
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12-09-2007 17:02
From: Starfire Desade
I have the same problem, and I have a theory...


I think they have a size limit on the search... parcels under a certain size are not listed, even though they are being paid for.

I don't know what this size is, as I have not had time to test it.

better give up thinking about it as most likely LL themself have no clue :p

as it`s in the current release client, it`s gone from beta to public beta, thankgod the older client has no new search and not forced to downgrade lol
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-09-2007 17:15
From: Starfire Desade
I have the same problem, and I have a theory...


I think they have a size limit on the search... parcels under a certain size are not listed, even though they are being paid for.

I don't know what this size is, as I have not had time to test it.


This is what i tought initially, and i assumed it wasn't possibile since there's a proposal on JIRA to "ignore" the land smaller than a certain size (those 16mq..) and official Linden words said: "no...." (anyway the proposal still open), then just to be sure/safe i've searched for other regions (where the search works) and i've checked that some other 48mq parcels where crawled correctly... my parcel is 48mq too and it's not being listed. Anyway the message clearly says (i don't know if that's a standard msg): "because of privacy settings" (that would happens if you do not have "show on search" flag turned on... but it is on ideed).
Posted here + JIRA bug + operator chat didn't solved the problem yet... let's hope.
Dekka Raymaker
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12-09-2007 17:23
I have a parcel over 2k of land does that fit in with your theory?
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-10-2007 04:12
From: Dekka Raymaker
I have a parcel over 2k of land does that fit in with your theory?


What do you mean?
Dekka Raymaker
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12-10-2007 04:51
From: Vittorio Beerbaum
What do you mean?


Sorry I was replying to:

"Originally Posted by Starfire Desade
I have the same problem, and I have a theory...

I think they have a size limit on the search... parcels under a certain size are not listed, even though they are being paid for.

I don't know what this size is, as I have not had time to test it."

But my I did misunderstand that they were referring to land parcels rather than objects :(
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Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-10-2007 11:31
I've finally talked with an operatore (no solutions...) he forwarded then my ticket to the devs... stay tuned for more updates. :D
Max Pitre
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12-10-2007 14:05
From: Vittorio Beerbaum
I've finally talked with an operatore (no solutions...) he forwarded then my ticket to the devs... stay tuned for more updates. :D


Been talking to them since this all started. No one I have talked to has a clue, one tried hard, one didn't try anything and one said she hated the new search too.
We have had a ticket open for a few weeks now without anyone really doing anything. The guy that tried hard did update the ticket to say what he tried and that's it.

I have to say again, why are our business's being used in a beta test we did not want when it affects our SL incomes so drastically? This could force us to close down, change to basic or free from the $200.00+ monthly payments and my wife is talking WoW for a change. I downloaded the WoW free trial (over 3 gig d/l!) last night.
Vittorio Beerbaum
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12-10-2007 15:57
Here's one of my chats with operators (i were there for 47 minutes...):

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[CENSORED]: Hello Vittorio_Beerbaum, what can I help you with?
Vittorio_Beerbaum: Hallo [CENSORED], i'm having problems with the new search engine. I know it is beta, and im not sure if you can manage this problem (concierge?) but im paying a classified on one of my parcel.. but that parcel is not listed on the new engine...
Vittorio_Beerbaum: if you may forward me to the right person.. i will be glad...

(after 18 minutes)

Vittorio_Beerbaum: ah i've forgot about this window lol.. just took the moment for a 15 minutes sleeping

(after other 20 minutes)

Vittorio_Beerbaum: We wish you a Merry Christmas... We wish you a Merry Christmas... We wish you a Merry! Christmas and happy new yeaaaarrrr
Vittorio_Beerbaum: Good tidings we bring to you and your kiiiin, Good tidings for Christmas and a Happy New Yeaaaaaaar

(after other 9 minutes of deep SILENCE i've closed it)
Cristalle Karami
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12-10-2007 16:34
I highly suggest that you go to the "would you pay more than 50L for a classified ad" post, as James Linden has been in there engaging us about the new search.
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