Landlords: have you forced age verification yet?

I intend to, but I will hold off until 1.18 no longer works. As long as 1.18 functions, I am not going to make anyone verify... or is that a silly rationale?

does the system actuall work for verified residents now?

I haven't forced it. I don't get the reasoning.

There is a mall near my property that requires age verification. Yet I can't visit, because when I click on the button 2L says I am not verified. If I check my account on the 2L website I am verified.

"CX"

There is virtually no sense in doing a parcel age verification check, since it only locks the unverified person out of a shallow volume 50 M above the terrain. That isn't even enough to ban someone from the top floor of a building, if it also has a basement.

I still think you can verify your dog or dead people. Eh. Maybe I'll hold off until they put in something that actually works.

Wow, okay, there is probably the strongest reason right there. How stupid.

unless they actually make rating your content mandatory the system wont work even if the technical aspects were to function flawlessly ..

Since most content providers of the objectionable stuff wont self censor.

The responsible business owners who do require verification .. will end up just hurt financially.

QFT. My landlord has 26 sims, and he is not requiring age verification for any of them.

If he were to, I would move.

p.s. and yes, i am very sure that there's the occasional pose ball or (say it softly) dungeon scattered among the sylvan hills and windlit skies.
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I should go do some more testing with all of the latest and greatest versions. The last time I tried (early 1.19 something), I could not always get into a flagged parcel even though I am age-verified.

That would be a resounding no, at least not 100%. I have been age verified from the time I was first offered the opportunity to do so. One of my fav surfing sims just went age verified because of griefing issues, and it will not let me in.

Yes, it's not working yet by a long shot. I verified myself during the early beta of it as a Concierge user, and just this weekend i found out I can't enter parcels which are flagged, even though my account clearly states I'm verified. I've put in a Ticket with LL but have heard nothing yet.

However, even if it was 100% working, I won't be putting mandatory verification on my residential estate. It will be up to the individual renters if they want to implement it or not. However, in my commercial sims, it will be required if any mature content is being sold or offered.

Nope and I have no intention of doing so at the moment either. I see no purpose to it, you can't build your own security systems based on it and as you can go 50m in the air to avoid it, it's toothless.

Last I heard, this stuff was in beta. I poked at it a little but it still seemed pretty buggy - especially the bit where it only works up to 50m above ground.

Until they say they've done a lot of work on it, I'm ignoring it.

1) Everyone who signed into the grid said they were an adult.

2) Parents are responsible for their kid's internet access, not me.

So... how am I at fault for anything here?



Of course age verification is shut off inworld.

The whole idea is crazy anyway, what with the internet already swimming in nakie pics and so forth.

The fact the parcel setting only prevents access to the first 50 or so metres above ground is even sillier now that the Havok4 roll out has raised the build ceiling to 4000m!

Oh, and even then you can stand on the edge of a parcel and cam in to look at the content, and even click on and buy things etc.

Matthew

I have suggested that LL restrict the high altitudes to age-verified only.
That would enable a situation where all or most of restricted content could be way up out of reach, and the ground level wouldn't have to have a maze of completely not-fit-for-purpose restrictions.

Private islands would probably be able to deal with restriction on the ground, but Mainland ground level would be a total mess and completely ineffective,

The chances of getting LL to see the sense of such a thing are probably zero.

Actually, I don't see the sense of it either. Are you suggesting that LL restrict camming for un-age-verified residents above a certain elevation? Very very difficult to implement. And existing PG skyboxes would have to be moved below that level? Bleah.

People claim that age verification is needed so that the teen and main grids can merge. I hope it never works well enough to merge them.

The only reason I can see for merging the grids is to displace liability for exposure of minors to pron to individual residents. However, this would probably kill the goose that lays the golden egg. The subsequent liability exposure will drive all adults who engage in non-PG business out of SL. It may destroy the land rental market as well -- again, who could bear the liability?

This would leave SL competing with the many many teen and kid worlds that are in development. Good luck with that.
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Well, I'm considering age verification on my land, because right now a big muscular guy is having sex in my grotto with a very young-looking girl. Or... wait....

Never mind, it's two big muscular guys, one was just ruthed.

A little more seriously, I take the same approach to age verification as I do to dowloading viewer updates: only when I'm forced to.

I'm suggesting that unverified residents should not be able to fly/TP higher than 780m (say).
All existing sky builds can stay where they are.


Someone could build at 1000, 2000+ and know that an unverified could not tp/fly or cam up there.

Nothing that exists currently would have to change.
If LL go ahead and simply turn on build for everyone at higher altitudes, the opportunity will have been lost.


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I might add that I am unverified, and would not be able to access the higher altitudes.

I don't have any issue with verifying per se.
My reasons for not verifying are:
1) IDV is just a PR stunt
2) I don't have to
3) I react badly to muppetry and double-speak

This is a brillant idea.

It solves so many problems all at once, its incredble.

***claps loudly***

What's scary, Desmond, is the fact that in an art history class my husband and I were taking, we covered censorship. One of the young women, who had two kids, stood up and said, "Yes, I want the government to censor everything that is bad for my children." My husband stared at her, and then quipped, "So, you're saying you want the government to take care of your kids too?"

Not everyone who breeds is that responsible, apparently. And those aren't are usually the ones that are sue-happy.

Guess it'd suck to be me then. I currently have a skybox at high altitude, and seeing how I live in Australia, I *can't* age verify, even if I wanted to. So the claim that "nothing that exists currently would have to change" is incorrect.

I live in Australia and could verify, but fat lot of good it did. I visited the opening of the new Help Island on the weekend, and tried the "Age Verification" area... I failed, even though my account shows me as age verified.

IMHO, it doesn't work properly and shouldn't be used.

I disagree - If I want to make a home on some nice protected mainland beach and enjoy the view with my partner, I should damned well be able to do as I please. It's a creative solution, though.

Interesting. Did you send paper copies of documents into LL and/or Aristotle (or whatever they're called) to verify? Because if you did it as a purely online thing, it's meaningless - third parties such as LL or Aristotle (or whatever) are unable to obtain the information they'd need to confirm age (or anything else) from Aus government departments due to privacy legislation.

It's all rather perplexing and vexing. I agree with you that it doesn't work and shouldn't be used.