Only one person is brave enough to show up when I am at my home platform without warning, and she has the color turned down on her monitor all the time so that it is safe
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Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
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09-24-2009 17:06
I think I have about 50% set to map me.. they all know they can show up anytime, but I am not responsible for their sanity or health if they show up without warning. No telling what madly spinning colors or weapon of mass colors I will be playing with.
Only one person is brave enough to show up when I am at my home platform without warning, and she has the color turned down on her monitor all the time so that it is safe |
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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09-24-2009 17:17
What you're asking for is a decent "Presence" server. SL's is hopelessly lame, you can give your friends more information about contacting you via Yahoo Messenger, hell in 2002 you could give more info via Yahoo Messenger than SL supports! A single "Busy" flag, which has no corresponding icon on the friends list or map!! _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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09-24-2009 17:28
I still have most of my friends set to be able to map me, except for a few that thought "mapping" meant "they want to show up uninvited on top of me". And, yes, it is useful to see if people are likely to welcome IMs or not. I do sometimes pop in on people who seem to be in a heavily populated place, but I do it by teleporting to a nearby sim and looking to see if the bunch of green dots they're among is in a mall or park or something (rather than say a skybox) before barging in.
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Anti Antonelli
Deranged Toymaker
Join date: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,091
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09-24-2009 20:34
I turned off mapping for everybody when the option became available and after I saw everybody else doing it with little or no "wait, you don't want me to know where you are and what you are up to???" drama. Just simpler that way, despite having mostly well-mannered friends in that regard. Haven't revisited that decision.
On a peripheral note: does anybody else remember when the map used to show the locations of Classifieds and paid Places and all that good stuff? It sure did make it easier to decide if even an IM was likely to be an unwanted intrusion, and it was a great (if slightly sneaky) way to get clued in on new shopping and entertainment opportunities... _____________________
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Ann Otoole
Registered User
Join date: 22 May 2007
Posts: 867
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09-24-2009 20:38
We need to have an estate definable exclusion zone above which people cannot teleport, fly to, nor see green dots. So like you set the exclusion barrier at 2000 meters. Only people in the land group can go above 2000 meters and once there nobody can see them on the map or mini map. I'd request it but i think argent or someone equally famous already asked for something similar that will never happen anyway. Besides after the vacuum thing yesterday i'm sure I am in the bad bucket forever now.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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09-25-2009 02:11
Vacuum thing?
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Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
Join date: 11 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,227
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09-25-2009 05:41
As we all know, it's generally not nice to locate a friend on the map and just teleport over there with a click, and then say "Hai!!!!" on arrival. Well, most of us know that. Perhaps some still might not realise what situations one might potentially drop in on. Yes, it's true, many live such 'ordinary' lives on the grid that the idea of anyone doing something... ah... 'private' simply doesn't register. Can someone please tell that to some of my friends please? As a general rule, I give the ability to see me on the map to my friends. I figure that way they can see me and know whether to interrupt. Rarely they IM me first though. I have had them pop in when I am busy mentoring, in a lecture, or just plain AFK. Not that I mind talking to them, but I just wish they would IM first before suddenly popping into existence. _____________________
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Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
Join date: 11 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,227
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09-25-2009 05:51
Aside from my alts having the ability to map me (ghosting fears) BTW, what can be done by residents if one of your accounts gets ghosted? I always have to submit a ticket and twiddle my thumbs. _____________________
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Kara Spengler
Pink Cat
Join date: 11 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,227
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09-25-2009 05:54
Who can map me: My RL husband (he's also my SL partner) My RL friends - and they have manners.. or I throw heavy things at them. My close SL friends - not many of these, but they've proven that they have manners And the Lindens I do have on my friends list. Though.. I think they can map me anyways >.< Plus anyone who knows what button crops up on a profile when you select 'view admin options' .... _____________________
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Belle Loll
Registered User
Join date: 7 Dec 2006
Posts: 260
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09-25-2009 06:07
I do not have anyone map me..it never crossed my mind to. If they want to come see me... all they have to do is ask for a TP. If I'm busy I tell them so... otherwise I TP them.
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Tarina Sewell
Just Browsing Thank you
Join date: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,180
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09-25-2009 07:23
Okay this is a bit of a counter intuitive thing, but stay with me on this. The map thread got me thinking about it. As we all know, it's generally not nice to locate a friend on the map and just teleport over there with a click, and then say "Hai!!!!" on arrival. Well, most of us know that. Perhaps some still might not realise what situations one might potentially drop in on. Yes, it's true, many live such 'ordinary' lives on the grid that the idea of anyone doing something... ah... 'private' simply doesn't register. * * * * * So... one simply messages a friend First, and they would say something like "Ah, I can't visit or entertain right now, I'm a little busy..." And then you say "ok talk to you later!" and then you say "wrong window!" when your friend types something special into your IM, instead of where it should have been said. And everything's cool. But! That's so 2005. Nowadays, I have friends that *let* me map them, and in fact sorta expect me to see where they are. Let me give an example. Say I map somebody, and there is one green dot there, and they are shopping at Phil's Ultra Low Prim Mega Mall ~ An Entire Sim on One Prim! Everyone knows where that is because we all have been there, it's clearly just chill time. Well, I see that, and realise that hey, it's cool to IM. Here's another example. Say I see the Artist waaay up in her build area place, and having been there before I know it's full of prim skirts and hats and other stuff, and there's 5 dots up there. Meaning: okay to IM, and it's all very casual time. Prolly other friends I know there too. One last example: say I see someone on the mini map clearly at their private home, and one green dot is bouncing madly off the other one, and then after several seconds it stops, then the second green dot swaps around and starts bouncing on the first. At which point I say: "hmm... clearly they are testing a trampoline!" and think better of sending and IM at all. I guess the point of all this, is that map stalking is now leading to less unwanted disruptions, more peace and less drama on the grid. What do you guys think? Do you let "civil" friends see you on the map, knowing they will look before sending an IM during "after hours" times and whatnot? Or is this just a phenomenon of a few close friends of mine? No one sees me on map except my partner. |
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Elric Anatine
Full Lunar Alchemist
Join date: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 381
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09-25-2009 07:42
I've always seen those who permit mapping as an open invitation to others. I see no other reason to allow mapping since a quick IM exchange can result in a TP.
Do I allow anyone to map me? ha ha No. Do I have anything to hide? Not really, but I don't like interruptions. Do I map someone else and pay them a visit from time to time? If they're foolish enough to permit me to map them I do. Anyone that truly does know me and vice versa can easily find my green dot in one of several of my habitual haunts. _____________________
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Amity Slade
Registered User
Join date: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,183
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09-25-2009 11:35
I guess the point of all this, is that map stalking is now leading to less unwanted disruptions, more peace and less drama on the grid. What do you guys think? Do you let "civil" friends see you on the map, knowing they will look before sending an IM during "after hours" times and whatnot? Are the "civil" friends really the cause of disruptions and drama in the first place? There are some people who feel a special entitlement to my time, an entitlement to know where I am all the time, an entitlement to have any IM answered in less than 60 seconds, and develop conspiracy theories about why they cannot get that to which they are entitled. There is no system to satisfy such individuals. Allowing them to map you won't help, because next they will want to know why are you are where you are and who you're with and what you are doing. And of course, you realize that because you only want your "civil" friends mapping you. My "civil" friends don't get upset if I can't answer an IM immediately, and assume that if I don't answer immediately, it is not because I am involved in some nefarious activity, but because I am just busy. So IMing the "Hi, how are you, what are you doing?" with them is not a cause of disruption and drama. I think if there is disruption and drama, it is not due to the difference between mapping and IMing, but it's because some people are going to cause disruption and drama and some people aren't. (I spend 99% of my time at my club, though, and my friends never ask anymore where I am or what I am doing- it would be the same answer as always.) |