I had to age verify - AGAIN...???
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Gizzy Nubalo
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10-22-2009 01:17
So tonight my Master and I were doing the Myths & Legends hunt. We both went to TP to the next location on Montego Beach (Mature, not Adult) and the TP was denied saying we had to be age verified. Mind you, we'd just left an Adult sim a few minutes before, we've both been age verified literally since we joined SL over a year ago, and we both have payment info used. My husband who is also age verified and payment info used, was able to TP to the sim with no problem. So my Master and I both went to check our accounts on the SL website - low and behold, after over a year of it saying "you are already verified," or whatever, it now had the form for us to fill out again and some "Beta" crap.
What...the...?
We inputted all of our info exactly as we did last year, submitted it, got the confirmation screen and were then able to enter Montego Beach (after restarting SL) and go to the shop. My husband, my Master and I all joined SL within hours of each other, age verified on the same day, put payment info on file on the same day and bought L$ on the same day. So....? It's not like my Master's info and mine expired and hubby's didn't.
Btw - before we re-verified, I went to three other Adult sims, trying to figure out what was wrong - ALL of them allowed me in with no problem. Yet the SL website treated it as if we weren't verified, as did that one sim - and as soon as we redid it, that sim let us in.
Anyone know what the heck is going on here?
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Abigail Merlin
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10-22-2009 01:27
My guess is the parcel itself was set to age verified only, some landowners think this is the same as setting the region to adult, I heard before some people lose the age verified setting but so far nobody told me why that happens
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-22-2009 12:53
Sounds like you've run afoul of the variety of options out there.
First there is adult verified. This is something that is set at the region level, as I understand it. Anybody with payment info used fits in this category. Those who have registered with Aristotle also fall in this category. Any properties in this category (such as anything on Zindra) is available to you.
Secondly, is a parcel-level option to restrict access only to those who have used payment info. If you have done so, these properties will be available to you and you won't notice the difference. If you never have though, you will find yourself banned from this property, even if you're able to teleport to Zindra.
The third option is also a parcel-level choice. Restrict access to age verified avatars only. This requires that you have provided info to Aristotle to pass their verification tests. If a property has this option box checked and you have not registered with Aristotle, you will not be able to access it, it's that simple.
The most common issue with people who are allowed to access adult content seems to be the third option.
Also note that it's possible for both parcel-level choices to be turned on at the same time. I understand that if they've both been turned on, then you must have payment info used AND have registered with Aristotle in order to visit that property. If you've only done one but not the other, that's not good enough.
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Tegg Bode
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10-22-2009 13:47
Maybe they are flushing the system to get rifd of all the Elvis's
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Love Hastings
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10-22-2009 13:53
From: Tegg Bode Maybe they are flushing the system to get rifd of all the Elvis's How is that even possible, since they claim they do not retain that information?
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Brenda Connolly
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10-22-2009 14:23
From: Love Hastings How is that even possible, since they claim they do not retain that information? They really are a bunch of disingenuous idiots. Their vaunted IDV is a piece of garbage yet they still hold it up as the solution to their problem. They should just do what every other Adult site does and get over it already.
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Tegg Bode
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10-22-2009 14:35
From: Love Hastings How is that even possible, since they claim they do not retain that information? You just go through the name list and unverify any name that looks suspect, hasn't been used in 12 months or is just verified more than 2 years ago when the system was in beta.
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Love Hastings
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10-22-2009 14:40
From: Tegg Bode You just go through the name list and unverify any name that looks suspect, hasn't been used in 12 months or is just verified more than 2 years ago when the system was in beta. There are a lot of suspect names in SL  They'd pretty well have to make everyone verify again for that to be effective.
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Tegg Bode
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10-22-2009 14:58
Maybe they just make everyone reverify every 2 years or something?
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Love Hastings
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10-22-2009 15:01
From: Tegg Bode Maybe they just make everyone reverify every 2 years or something? I ain't getting any younger. This whole thing is a disaster.
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Brenda Connolly
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10-22-2009 15:03
From: Love Hastings I ain't getting any younger.
LOL
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Gabby Handrick
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10-22-2009 16:00
I had age verified ages ago too, after reading this thread I went to the Age Verification section of my dashboard and instead of seeing you have already verified I am also seeing the verification screen again. Something must be up with it.
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Brenda Connolly
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10-22-2009 16:07
I've always seen the verifcation screen after verifying. Is there supposed to be something else? have no trouble accessing Age Verified parcels, so seeing that page may not mean you have to re verify. The OP stated he can't get in so he obviously has a problem, but check before reverifying. I wouldn't trust that POS system to work a second time.
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Gizzy Nubalo
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10-22-2009 16:10
From: someone The third option is also a parcel-level choice. Restrict access to age verified avatars only. This requires that you have provided info to Aristotle to pass their verification tests. If a property has this option box checked and you have not registered with Aristotle, you will not be able to access it, it's that simple.
The most common issue with people who are allowed to access adult content seems to be the third option. As I said in my first post, I had both age verified with Aristotle AND used my payment info - for over a year. In addition, one of the places I lived months back was restricted access to age verified avatars only. That was my whole point - I have been fully and completely verified in the system for over a year, as has my Master, then suddenly we were not. So no, this isn't a matter of not being fully verified and running into a land setting - there's a glitch. Linden Labs eliminated our age verification information, thus keeping us off a parcel that required it. But we were BOTH verified and able to access that same region - and others like it, such as where we used to live - until yesterday when our information mysteriously disappeared. That's what is at issue - why our verification suddenly disappeared after over a year.
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10-22-2009 16:25
From: Gizzy Nubalo That's what is at issue - why our verification suddenly disappeared after over a year. Actually, the answer is very simple. This is Linden Labs we're talking about. One should be more surprised that one can log in on a daily basis and have a half way working platform too! *sighs* I wish I was only kidding...
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Marta Vanistok
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10-22-2009 16:34
Hmmm ... sorry, more curious about the power dynamics of your casually described troilism than the whole age verification thing. Husband a submissive cuckold or crafty wittold, I wonder ...
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Tegg Bode
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10-22-2009 19:10
From: Love Hastings I ain't getting any younger.
This whole thing is a disaster. Yet they still continue to askiny everyone to renew their drivers licence every 1-5 years too 
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Milla Janick
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10-22-2009 19:35
From: Gizzy Nubalo That's what is at issue - why our verification suddenly disappeared after over a year. They've done some monkeying around with the age verification recently. Maybe something they did screwed up verification status for some residents. I've read a couple other accounts here of the same thing that happened to you happen to others. Age verification is still "beta", so I'd chalk it up to the system being flaky.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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10-22-2009 20:24
From: Milla Janick They've done some monkeying around with the age verification recently. Maybe something they did screwed up verification status for some residents. I've read a couple other accounts here of the same thing that happened to you happen to others.
Age verification is still "beta", so I'd chalk it up to the system being flaky. Actually, I think mine is gone too. Being the virginal, chaste, innocently ingenuous naif that I am, I actually haven't tried going to an adult sim recently, but I've noticed that my "Adult" check box on search is suddenly blanked out.
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10-22-2009 20:41
OK let me get this straight, you have a master and a husband.....
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10-22-2009 20:46
From: Dove Randt OK let me get this straight, you have a master and a husband..... Uhhh. And you DON'T? 
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Gizzy Nubalo
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10-22-2009 21:32
Yes, I have a Master and a husband - and no, it is not a cuckolding situation. My Master and I have been together nearly 12 years, my husband and I for 10 years. My Master was my husband's best man at our wedding. My husband is (primarily) a bottom, and dates tops/dominants primarily, though he does occasionally also scene with other bottoms/submissives. We are a polyamorous family, and have maintained these relationships for over a decade. They are both active in SL, as are a few other members of our extended poly family. Nor are we particularly unusual - we know a number of poly groups with similar setups to ours. Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions as to what could have caused this - my primary concern is that this involves our personal identifying information and so part of me sits back and thinks, "ok, so what, exactly, happened to the information you gathered from me a year ago??" Everything is working fine for us right now - I just hope there's been no compromise of our original information or the info we submitted last night. Again, my thanks for the suggestions... I knew someone here might have some idea. 
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Milla Janick
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10-22-2009 21:43
From: Scylla Rhiadra Actually, I think mine is gone too. Being the virginal, chaste, innocently ingenuous naif that I am, I actually haven't tried going to an adult sim recently, but I've noticed that my "Adult" check box on search is suddenly blanked out. Have you checked in the general preferences to see if it got switched there somehow? I'd hate to think you'll never get to New Desperation Island! From: Gizzy Nubalo Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions as to what could have caused this - my primary concern is that this involves our personal identifying information and so part of me sits back and thinks, "ok, so what, exactly, happened to the information you gathered from me a year ago??" Everything is working fine for us right now - I just hope there's been no compromise of our original information or the info we submitted last night. Linden Lab claims neither they nor Aristotle keep the information you give them. They just check it agaisnt public records, and if it matches, sets your account to verified. If that's accurate, then it seems extremely unlikely that any information you provide to them could possibly be compromised.
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Gizzy Nubalo
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10-22-2009 23:43
From: Milla Janick Have you checked in the general preferences to see if it got switched there somehow?
I'd hate to think you'll never get to New Desperation Island!
Linden Lab claims neither they nor Aristotle keep the information you give them. They just check it agaisnt public records, and if it matches, sets your account to verified. If that's accurate, then it seems extremely unlikely that any information you provide to them could possibly be compromised. Hey Millia - yup, my preferences are fine. I did check those before I went to the SL website, thinking maybe something in there got reset, but nope. The blockage of the teleport seems to have been caused by the parcel owner requiring age verification - I just don't understand what happened to my previously existing verification. I suppose we'll never know, it's not like LL is going to explain it. LOL But thanks for the suggestion - and I think after this, I'll be keeping an eye on that as well. Next thing you know, I won't be able to teleport to my own home. LOL On a side note - going back to the comments about my relationships - I guess I'm not understanding why this seems to be such a big deal to people. Seems like most of the SL residents are cheating on their RL spouses with people in SL - is it the fact that my husband and my Master know each other and are the best of friends that is so odd? My Master gave me permission to date and marry my husband... this has worked for all of us for a very long time. We all joined SL together as something fun to do as a family, with each other and with others in our family - it's just a nice way to spend extra time together, enjoying ourselves. I see people posting on here all the time about how they're involved in relationships in SL or whatever that their RL partners don't know about - and that doesn't seem to raise any eyebrows. But the fact that my husband, my Master and I have a poly relationship IRL where everyone is open about their feelings and activities and partnerships - whether IRL or even in SL - seems odd to some? I don't really understand that. We're honest and open with each other, we love each other, we're happy, no one is being betrayed, no one is treated as "second best" or "second class," and we have a family of people who care deeply for each other and look out for one another's welfare. Isn't that a GOOD thing?
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Marta Vanistok
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10-23-2009 00:13
From: Gizzy Nubalo Hey Millia - yup, my preferences are fine. I did check those before I went to the SL website, thinking maybe something in there got reset, but nope. The blockage of the teleport seems to have been caused by the parcel owner requiring age verification - I just don't understand what happened to my previously existing verification. I suppose we'll never know, it's not like LL is going to explain it. LOL But thanks for the suggestion - and I think after this, I'll be keeping an eye on that as well. Next thing you know, I won't be able to teleport to my own home. LOL
On a side note - going back to the comments about my relationships - I guess I'm not understanding why this seems to be such a big deal to people. Seems like most of the SL residents are cheating on their RL spouses with people in SL - is it the fact that my husband and my Master know each other and are the best of friends that is so odd? My Master gave me permission to date and marry my husband... this has worked for all of us for a very long time. We all joined SL together as something fun to do as a family, with each other and with others in our family - it's just a nice way to spend extra time together, enjoying ourselves.
I see people posting on here all the time about how they're involved in relationships in SL or whatever that their RL partners don't know about - and that doesn't seem to raise any eyebrows. But the fact that my husband, my Master and I have a poly relationship IRL where everyone is open about their feelings and activities and partnerships - whether IRL or even in SL - seems odd to some? I don't really understand that. We're honest and open with each other, we love each other, we're happy, no one is being betrayed, no one is treated as "second best" or "second class," and we have a family of people who care deeply for each other and look out for one another's welfare. Isn't that a GOOD thing? It's a very good thing ... I was being curious not judgemental. But not at all curious about openly having a husband and 'lover' - I'm a bivirist myself - I think it's the casual use of the term 'master' in a non-sexual context contrasted with the more cuddly 'hubby' that I found unusual outside the context of SL fantasy roleplay or a RL fetish club. Back on topic - you say "ok, so what, exactly, happened to the information you gathered from me a year ago??" - wasn't that before the current system of age verification was in place?
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