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Cal Kondo
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Join date: 7 Oct 2006
Posts: 143
06-26-2008 16:06
Yep, and if you lose the visitor counter you will never again be bothered by visitors to your land. At least when you are absent.
Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
06-26-2008 16:18
From: Kitty Barnett
If you ever run into someone used that method [sitting on a prim with a remote llSitTarget], just landban them and they'll go *poof*; or set your orb to llAddToBanList everyone it spots as an intruder, or simply use access restrictions since they do actually work as they should and aren't subject to sim lag either.
I never played with this before--it's pretty fun! So, find a parcel with access control, near somewhere you can rez stuff, and make a prim with a remote sit target, sit on it, and push yourself into the banned parcel in the Editor. While you're sliding the prim around, you can move all through the banned parcel but as soon as you release the mouse from sliding (and while you're still in the editor), the ban kicks in, you get booted from the parcel, and--the interesting part--the prim you were sitting on gets returned to your Lost & Found--even though it was never on the banned parcel, and even if the banned parcel has no auto-return, allows object entry, and even object creation.

If I really needed to get my avatar to appear inside a banned parcel, I'd try an animation with a built-in offset. (Not very far inside, though.)

None of which has anything to do with protecting the touch-triggered visitor counter--which won't be protected by ban lines nor security orbs, nor anything else, since the "intruders" are probably nowhere near the property anyway, and have just cammed in from a distance and clicked. (One does wonder what's so alluring about this touch-activated visitor counter; maybe it's the "Click for Free Weed" hovertext. :p )
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Amity Slade
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Join date: 14 Feb 2007
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06-26-2008 16:28
Personally, I don't care about people walking through my land when I'm not there. It's one of those cases where I figure that what I don't know doesn't hurt me.

I keep object creation, object entry, and running scripts all turned off, and I disallow creating landmarks, so I figure there's not a lot of damage a stranger can do while I'm not there.

It does irk me though when I log in, and find that my doors are wide open and my television was left on.
Dekka Raymaker
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Join date: 4 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,898
06-26-2008 17:54
I have a sign up that says please come and visit me, my home is your home, I'm desperate I need company someone to talk to for a couple of hours and if you can give me a tip so i can pay for my tier that would be appreciated too!

no one ever visits me :(
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Kitty Barnett
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06-26-2008 18:57
From: Qie Niangao
I never played with this before--it's pretty fun! So, find a parcel with access control, near somewhere you can rez stuff, and make a prim with a remote sit target, sit on it, and push yourself into the banned parcel in the Editor. While you're sliding the prim around, you can move all through the banned parcel but as soon as you release the mouse from sliding (and while you're still in the editor), the ban kicks in, you get booted from the parcel, and--the interesting part--the prim you were sitting on gets returned to your Lost & Found--even though it was never on the banned parcel, and even if the banned parcel has no auto-return, allows object entry, and even object creation.
That's actually normal behaviour though. When you're dragging a prim around that's only client-side, for anyone else they only see the change *after* you let go.

So for anyone watching you'd just have been sitting outside of the parcel the entire time and the effect is nothing different than being able to cam around since you never really were on the parcel for anyone but yourself :).
Macphisto Angelus
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Join date: 21 Oct 2004
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06-26-2008 19:23
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From: Dekka Raymaker
I have a sign up that says please come and visit me, my home is your home, I'm desperate I need company someone to talk to for a couple of hours and if you can give me a tip so i can pay for my tier that would be appreciated too!

no one ever visits me :(
Brann Georgia
Spits infinitives
Join date: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 1,441
06-26-2008 19:23
I once crashed my plane into some ban lines hard enough to end up inside the build, or actually in the basement. To this day I have no idea what happened. I found myself wandering around a dungeon filled with ... devices. Should have seen me hightail it out of there! :D
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Bree Giffen
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Join date: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 2,715
06-26-2008 21:05
Do you know what would work? A prim that covers the entire square footage of your home. Just tall enough to make chairs and beds unusable and make rooms difficult to walk in. With all the megaprims available I'm sure one can be made for just about any size home. That's it. Just a simple non-physical non-phantom prim to make your house ugly and boring to be around. When the owner clicks on it.. poof.. it shrinks away until the owner leaves.
Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
Posts: 3,688
06-26-2008 23:41
From: Dekka Raymaker
I have a sign up that says please come and visit me, my home is your home, I'm desperate I need company someone to talk to for a couple of hours and if you can give me a tip so i can pay for my tier that would be appreciated too!

no one ever visits me :(


Except for the no one ever visiting...that's a brilliant idea!

Leave my home open and put very visible tip jars in every room!!! Would be an interesting experiment to see if anyone ever paid. :p
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Qie Niangao
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Join date: 24 May 2006
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06-27-2008 05:06
From: Kitty Barnett
That's actually normal behaviour though. When you're dragging a prim around that's only client-side, for anyone else they only see the change *after* you let go.
Yep. But I was still a little surprised that the prim on which I was sitting returned to my lost & found, when it was over my land the whole time. Because the banned parcel allowed object entry and didn't have auto-return, this must be inherent to how avatar access restrictions are enforced.
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Curtis Dresler
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Join date: 6 Apr 2008
Posts: 155
Not to mention
06-27-2008 08:37
They may have fallen through the roof. Lately every other time I land from flying I fall right through the surface. Pretty much irrespective of which viewer is being used. This was a hell of a week to look for boats - I've been stuck under every other dock in SL...

Doesn't appear to be related to the server upgrades, but not sure when it started exactly. Seen other complaints about this.
Osprey Therian
I want capslocklock
Join date: 6 Jul 2004
Posts: 5,049
06-27-2008 09:17
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Bah! Am I the only one that doesnt mind folks coming around my place (the house, not the shop)?



I am like that, too. I don't know why some people are so rabidly protective of their things, especially at times they are not even online. Why not welcome everyone? Have a secure skybox love den, maybe, or just activate security when you are home. If you have created something nice I would think you'd let others see it.
MoxZ Mokeev
Invisible Alpha Texture
Join date: 10 Jan 2008
Posts: 870
06-27-2008 09:28
From: Amity Slade

It does irk me though when I log in, and find that my doors are wide open and my television was left on.



QFT I'm very persnickity about closing my doors and windows, and to log on and find them all open just pisses me to pieces.
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Wildefire Walcott
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Join date: 8 Nov 2005
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06-27-2008 09:31
From: Amity Slade
It does irk me though when I log in, and find that my doors are wide open and my television was left on.

Yes, I replaced all the door scripts at my house in Bay City because every time I logged in they were wide open. Now they auto-close after 30 seconds so the bugs don't get in.
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
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06-27-2008 09:42
From: Osprey Therian
I am like that, too. I don't know why some people are so rabidly protective of their things, especially at times they are not even online. Why not welcome everyone? Have a secure skybox love den, maybe, or just activate security when you are home. If you have created something nice I would think you'd let others see it.

They can see it. Up to 512m away. They don't have to use it.
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Tabliopa Underwood
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Join date: 6 Aug 2007
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06-27-2008 22:01
From: Wildefire Walcott
You must have an awesome place for so many people to want to break-and-enter. SLURL plz, ty.


/me grins
Tabliopa Underwood
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Join date: 6 Aug 2007
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06-27-2008 22:27
From: Czari Zenovka
Except for the no one ever visiting...that's a brilliant idea!

Leave my home open and put very visible tip jars in every room!!! Would be an interesting experiment to see if anyone ever paid. :p


An escalating chat begging tip jar is way better than a security orb for keeping people out of your house when you're not there.

/me grins

A typical script:

[start]
[queue begging sound effects and other noises]
Hi Benny, welcome to my home. Give me your lindens
Hey Benny, wheres them lindens
Benny! dont be a meanie, gimme ur lindens
BENNY!!! ...
BENNY !!! U CHEAPO GIMME LINDENS
[if nice]
ooo! thanks Benny for your 1000L :)
[else]
Only 1000L !!! Gee Benny can u afford it u cheapskate :(
[goto start]

Chat spam ??? Maybe not.

Only Benny needs to get the chat a.k.a. llInstantMessage(keyBenny, msgForBenny); and it stops when he leaves. Its his call to do so.
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