Camping - the Lindens wont stop it :(

I have been reporting this shop for a week now. They have dozens of campers each day to unfairly increase their land traffic. Abuse reports are NOT working. What else can be done?

Germania Farrago 210 245 22

LL never wanted to stop it. They only changed the ToS to appease a few people.

However, there is nothing about camping that's against the ToS. What's outlawed is camping when it's used to 'game' search. Have you checked that the parcel where the campping is is set to show in search? If it isn't, all the camping is in full compliance with the ToS.

Google this

Yes, if the parcel they are on isn't set to show in search.

Yes, again, but it may not be viewed with much kindness if the stack of green dots isn't affecting the sim or people in the sim. One thing they aren't allowed to do is use so many of the sim's av quota that other people can't get in, so it would depend on how big that stack is

Phil

I would hope the person who passed the set to an alt would have the sense to shoot me a note saying they transferred thier license to the textures to their alt.

As for tying all alts (someone elses point) to the main on the LL side. That works to a point. Sounds great but I suspect that most Lindens investigating the report wouldn't even check if the main has a license. More work for LL = more work not done in my experience. If they were all tied together I would see it as a much more likely event that rather than LL saying ok this is legit LL would say ok all the same person guilty to all AVs. Never underestimate the the level of screw up LL is capable of in investigating ARs.

SSDD

wait is this camping or bots?

One and the same.

The Linden's are camping? Times must be very hard. Is it a bit like waitresses being expected to make up the minimum wage through tips?


Noooo! I was a happy camper in my early days ... chatted and goofed around, made lots of friends, never went AFK (almost never). I know camping has gone downhill recently with camp-bots and stuff but I am sure there are a few genuine newbies out there, camping for their first few L$. Without that opportunity, I doubt I'd have stayed around.

yup that land is listed in Search and has a traffic score of nearly 20,000 daily

My recommendation is to stop visiting the store to see if it's still camped. Unless, of course, it's in a sim as a parcel you own. Then you might wanna AR it as abuse of sim resources.

It's not very many campers then - bots or otherwise. It's against the 'traffic' part of the ToS and should be dealt with, but it's unlikely to be a problem for other sim users.

I respectfully direct your attention to:-

/327/ab/348210/1.html

Ya the whole bad thing about the camping and bots that do show up in the search is this..LL said for us to not worry about the reporting of it..
That they would be doing the searching for them..So i don't even think it is an ARable offense if they won't let us AR it..This isn't the first time someone has tried to AR someone for bots or camping and it being ignored..

We actually have no way of knowing they are doing anything about it..They sure are not starting at the top of the search where the biggest offenses are happening for us to tell the difference..

Sure we have a way of knowing.

The first week after the new policy, there were a few rumors posted to the threads here of places that Linden Lab nailed for their bots.

Since the first week, you can either read all the examples given in these threads of places freely operating with bots, or just do a Search and check them all out yourself.

Linden Lab did something about it the first week, declared "Mission Accomplished," and have forgotten about it. Either they don't care, or they assume that everyone will fear that they are enforcing the rule when in fact they aren't, as if no one can figure out that they aren't enforcing the rule.

ya and that could partly have been just fear of the rule by some people as well lol..

They just recently came out with that whole ((Bleh i don't even want to say the name of the plan cause Phil will go off on me but i will anyways LOL)) scripted agents plan..
This is something that is supposed to make it easier for them to spot out those that are doing wrong and right..

i knew we would see some sort of drop off in loggins after the rule first came out..
They may have hit a few places but they were not the top dogs in the search they were touching..

i saw loggins go down but saw the same crap with having to go a few pages past the first page in the search to get past all those that the lindens never saw LOL

So now we have this new plan that will make everything all better (in our minds)because now LL can see who the bad guys are(and look past them again) to make this place just as good as it was before they ever put in a camping and bot and traffic gaming rule..

Seriously .if they don't enforce this then can blow the grid up..between this crap and the increases going on with content theft..they could blow the grid up tomorrow and it would be no skin off my back..
they'll just totally prove who they are that day to me..i have been keeping a little hope alive that they are just really busy..but this will be the clincher here that snuffs whats left of that hope if they don't come through.. i wouldn't give two hairs off a gnats ass worth of care as to what happened to their grid after that..
LOL

Ceka. How could you even think such a thing - I'm hurt





The current beauty of the scripted agents plan is that people can come up with all sorts of weird and wonderful bots, register them as 'scripted agents' and shoot up in the traffic rankings - and all entirely above board If LL takes forever to get around to using the registrations in the traffic figures, then that will last a fair while. It actually gives bot users a measure of protection against penalties for a while. I feel free to add more bots to my hobby castle - with impunity.

Where is the registered agent policy?

I looked, but I can't find anything anymore since Second Life "improved" its web site.

i was just playing wiff you..we had such a chat on that blog that i just wanted you to know i was not wanting to rekindle it here LOL

well this is the link to that blog..i'm not sure if there is a link to actually register or not there..i get just as lost hehehehe

but here is the only clue i have to offer hehehehe..
Let me know if you find it..i may need to have a friend join also..she has so many alts and they all play this tiny empires game that is on our adult sim which is actually going in the search soon..
God i needs some FREAKING tea!! i am babbling today

Edit: can't believe i forgot to add the link after all that jabbering i just did lol

here it is..
https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/10/21/setting-a-scripted-agent-status

Well, you register by logging into the web page with the account, and then choose > Account > Scripted Agent Status

ya thats right it's right there in the menu..Bleh..i am so out of it today..
i think someone switched my brand of tea on me hehehehe

They came out with the "Scripted Agents Plan" so the normal resident can't prove that LL isn't doing it's job. They will just say "that person registered the bots as agents" and we can't prove otherwise.

So if you register your "scripted agent," it counts in your Traffic totals? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

that something that had came up..
how about some way to indicate that they are a bot besides having to look on a profile..why not a dot color that shows on the world and mini map and maybe a different colored tag that only they can use..
they can change each time they log in from bot or not..i would hope they have some way for it to be seen or it's just as worthless and them never registering as a bot..

i'd like to know when i am about to port if anyone is there..
i really just hope they are serious for once about this whole mess..