From The Latest Blog Post Re: Age Verification:
About Long-Term Storage of Personal Information:
"Information provided during the identification process, such as a driver’s license, passport or national ID card number, will simply be used to cross-check against public records. Linden Lab will not be storing this data and nor will the third party verification specialist, Aristotle."
http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/08/29/identity-verification-comes-to-second-life/
COMPARE: Statement by Aristotle Official:
"When the one-time verification is completed, the company returns a verification score back to LL and does not use people’s information for any other purposes. However, Colopy said a record of the verification process is retained so the company could re-examine it if there was “an overwhelming legal requirement to do so.”
http://www.slpixelpulse.com/2007/05/27/your-world-your-imagination-your-first-life-identity/
So which is it???
Information provided during the identification process, such as a driver’s license, passport or national ID card number, will not be stored. (Per Robin Linden)
OR
Information provided during the identification process, such as a driver’s license, passport or national ID card number, will be retained indefinitely by Aristotle. (Per Aristotle's Official Spokesperson)
Does it make a difference?
YOU BET IT DOES !
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LNDINI Lok
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Alicia Sautereau
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08-29-2007 08:52
dunno what scares me more
giving info to some phising company or that that company has govermental access to check identity comparison in holland... |
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LNDINI Lok
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08-29-2007 08:58
dunno what scares me more giving info to some phising company or that that company has govermental access to check identity comparison in holland... All your personal identity information are belong to us. |
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Marty Starbrook
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08-29-2007 09:02
Somethings are ok .... somethings arnt....
Im happy for LL to have all my information, but under the UK data protection act LL has to comply with my wishes that that data is NOT passed to other companies to who I have NOT authorised. And Unless the UK and US are in a state of war or diplomatic strife I have no reason to believe that this would be different. _____________________
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Raymond Figtree
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08-29-2007 09:02
I am putting myself in the "Not worth panicking over" camp. Heck I will even share the last four numbers of my soc. sec. with everyone: 7656.
But it's good you brought this discrepancy to the public's attention. Hopefully Strife will pass your detective work along to Robin. And please send her a notecard inworld yourself. _____________________
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Jake Ansett
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08-29-2007 09:19
Heck I will even share the last four numbers of my soc. sec. with everyone: 7656. I really hope that's not your real number |
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Trout Recreant
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08-29-2007 09:23
It doesn't make a difference. The reason is that whenever you give out information like that, you have to assume that despite what the company (either LL or Aristotle) tells you, that information will be retained. Personally identifying information is like cash - you don't give it to someone to hold for you because they tell you that you can trust them.
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Meni Kaiousei
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08-29-2007 09:24
Heck I will even share the last four numbers of my soc. sec. with everyone: 7656. Hey! that's my pin-code! Meni |
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08-29-2007 09:27
I am putting myself in the "Not worth panicking over" camp. Heck I will even share the last four numbers of my soc. sec. with everyone: 7656. But it's good you brought this discrepancy to the public's attention. Hopefully Strife will pass your detective work along to Robin. And please send her a notecard inworld yourself. I always felt you weren't worth panicking over.... _____________________
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Kitty Barnett
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08-29-2007 09:29
Im happy for LL to have all my information, but under the UK data protection act LL has to comply with my wishes that that data is NOT passed to other companies to who I have NOT authorised. |
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Raymond Figtree
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08-29-2007 09:32
I really hope that's not your real number _____________________
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Sae Luan
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08-29-2007 09:44
I'm not sure I'm concerned about my identity being with a company. If someone steals MY identity, they are gonna have a pretty crappy time, cuz my identity sucks!
ha ha ok not so much, but I'm seriously not worried about that part of it. I'm more worried about my overseas customers not being able to verify and thus not being able to come to my island anymore. That would be sad. _____________________
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08-29-2007 11:01
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Ciaran Laval
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08-29-2007 11:06
Im happy for LL to have all my information, but under the UK data protection act LL has to comply with my wishes that that data is NOT passed to other companies to who I have NOT authorised. And Unless the UK and US are in a state of war or diplomatic strife I have no reason to believe that this would be different. If you voluntarily give your information to an organisation outside the data protection act's remit, then you are not protected under that law in any way, any shape or any form. As Integrity apparently have a presence in the UK, maybe they could verifiy Europeans under the scope of the data protection act but nobody from LL has stated this is the case. |
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Animations Pfeffer
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08-29-2007 11:33
But any minor can provide his father or mother info and get verified.
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Matteo Harris
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08-29-2007 11:59
Mine's 1138 I'm 1234. No, wait. Thats the code to my luggage. |
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08-29-2007 12:04
But any minor can provide his father or mother info and get verified. Exactly, and I am sure that is what a lot of them will do. |
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Animations Pfeffer
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08-29-2007 12:16
Exactly, and I am sure that is what a lot of them will do. In fact, maybe the firsts to look for verification and ansious on getting will be kids. A lot of adults will not have any interest (like myself) on this, but i guess kids will... so this could be an "inverse" filter he he |
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08-29-2007 12:59
COMPARE: Statement by Aristotle Official: "When the one-time verification is completed, the company returns a verification score back to LL and does not use people’s information for any other purposes. However, Colopy said a record of the verification process is retained so the company could re-examine it if there was “an overwhelming legal requirement to do so.” I am betting ti is how it is written they keep a record of the verification process.... not the actual things used to verify _____________________
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08-29-2007 13:02
Why can't they just scan my barcode tattoo?
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Ciaran Laval
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08-29-2007 13:09
I am betting ti is how it is written they keep a record of the verification process.... not the actual things used to verify There's been talk of the information being vaulted and only available for a government audit so I'd hazard a guess that somewhere there will be more than a record of the verification process stored. |
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08-29-2007 13:37
I am putting myself in the "Not worth panicking over" camp. Heck I will even share the last four numbers of my soc. sec. with everyone: 7656. Eerie- 7656 is the password I've used for every website and online game I've ever used!!!!! ... Uh-oh. _____________________
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Wildefire Walcott
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08-29-2007 13:42
In fact, maybe the firsts to look for verification and ansious on getting will be kids. A lot of adults will not have any interest (like myself) on this, but i guess kids will... so this could be an "inverse" filter he he How about adults who run mature establishments and businesses and don't feel like being blocked from their own land? _____________________
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08-29-2007 14:04
As a victim of identity theft, this sorta scares me... I had someone work under my name, get credit under my name, even get me a nice arrest warrant in my name. How they got all my information to do so, I have no idea, but I am sure it wasn't hard. Every company I pay a bill to has all my information, SS#, DL#, DOB, address, etc. Why would LL be any different? What DOES bother me, is they are using a third party to handle it =/
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