Help finding collars

Where can I find things like slave collars and a Master on SL? I've found a few BDSM places, but most of the people there are just rude and perverted.

I personally reccomend Dari's Haus for collars. As for a dominant. Check out classifieds and events for auctions and D/s meetups. Or, simply take your time and make some friends. Eventually you'll find one of them shares your kink and make for a very satisfying experience. (^_^)y

Well I can only give you my RL opinion as I do not participate in this in SL...

Slave collars you do NOT find. They are given to you by your Master, if he decides he wants to go on with you, and you agree. Of course you can go and look for one, even buy one and put it on your neck, but a true collar is a gift, not a purchase. A very special one too.

Masters can be found everywhere and nowhere. Being perverted is a good start (well, in my case it is ), but a small part only.

Kidding aside, simply hang out in places, and do not make a secret of your wishes, but do not flash them around either. You are not just a submissive, you are you. Simply be who you are, and the right person will be there eventually. Active searches for Masters probably end up in drama anyway. But keep in mind that finding a good Master can be finding a needle in a haystack. Just as finding a good submissive is.

Hope I made some sense

The DK and Amethyst collars used to be considered the top of the line...at least a year ago. I can't recall the name of the person who makes the DK but if you are really interested, leave an IM for me in world and I can look it up later. Amethyst should come up by that name.

Both have a lot of options on them (leash, cage, tons of AOs, etc.) and collar colors; the DK also has options for the collar type itself - flat, round "Turian" type collar, etc.

But, as has already been mentioned, the collar is given by the Master/Mistress/Dom/me - or by a "City" or group if you go the Gorean route.

Also, try searching for "Open Collar" in Places for a free open source collar system. If you want an unscripted collar to put 3rd party scripts in, I sell one or two at my store, SLURL below[/shameless plug].

I agree with Marcel - Find a compatable Master/Mistress first, and most likely THEY will select the type of collar and other props you are to use.

Amethyst/Sensations makes very good collars and cuffs. Look in the Sensations sim for their main store. Most of the people I know who are into such things use that product line. They also sell just the scripts, so you can make custom collars that have virtually all their animations and features.

The Xcite store has a line called Tokon that has collars and cuffs with a HUD controller. While it can interact with Xcite genitalia, you don't need to use other Xcite products for the Tokon system to be useful. One very big selling point of Tokon is that it can actually adjust animations up or down to compensate for avatar size, so a small or large avatar doesn't end up embedded in the floor or floating when they do something simple like kneeling on the floor. Most scripted collars only work right if the avatar is roughly the default size.

I resemble that remark.

Oh yes, I have to agree, the Dari's Haus collar is a remarkable product. And her support has no par that I have seen in SL. When I had an issue she TPed out herself to help me solve it. You don't see service like that much anymore.

Since this has also opened to the subject of collars and brands... question- is there a standard attachment point? It is troublesome when one wears an item of cloathing and suddenly is devoid of the collar. I realize the attachment points are limited but...

Generally, most collars use "Chest" as the attachment point. It is the only one that remains in synch with the neck's position. No other point is stable for a collar.

I have seen body harnesses that use spine, but if they include a collar they don't stay in place as well around the neck as chest does.

Unfortunately, Chest is also the only attachment point that works for nipples or nipple rings. You would think pectoral (right and left) would be ideal for nipples, but in fact when attached there they move too much with breathing. Pectoral is primarily for shoulder armor and similar attachments.

Technically you could possibly use skull (most often used for prim heads and prim hair), nose, chin, or either ear for a collar. But all are less stable than Chest, and all tend to have conflicts with other common attachments.

It's going to happen. Unless your use the restrained life viewer, but then putting on new clothes is a painful and error prone operation.

Spine works well.

argh I made silks entirely of prims- the chest piece is of course... attached to the chest - shoudda asked first .. /me sulks over having to repostion the whole damn thing!

See? That's what I was thinking when I chose chest for the top- I mean- I don't think there are many winged slaves/pets out there- though could be wrong...

That is not accurate.

Spine is the default for many collars and works perfectly well.

I've had my collars on "spine" since my first collaring in 04.

I use the "Pec" points for Skirts.

YES SKIRTS.

Works perfectly for when you have something already on your stomach and pelvis.

It does not work well with all dances however but everyday non-dance use: Pec = skirt attachment point for me - with no problems.

Give it a try

Spine is a good alternative to chest for attachments that are to stay with the upper torso. So those prim silks could likely attach to spine and work well, and would work better there than a collar moved to spine will work. Spine is possibly the second or third best choice for a collar, but how well it worls depends on what poses or animations are moving the avatar.

One thing to try if you are learning about attachment points is to get one of the multi-pose pose stands, like the PVN pose stand, that can put the avatar in a variety of common and extreme poses, as well as a few moving animated poses. Attach an item and try a variety of poses, and see how the attached item does or does not stay where it should.

Wings seem lost often to attach to spine, or to both pectoral locations. Using pectorals for wings is cool, because they move a bit more naturally as you move and breathe.

With all attachment point choices, your mileage may vary depending on how you normally move or animate your avatar. I have seen several things that are great while standing or sitting still, but that shift oddly if you walk or dance or use couples pose balls. Sometimes you really just need to experiment to see what works best under the circumstances.

For my furry forms, I have usually set up two or three alternatives for my tails, since different avatars may use either pelvis or stomach, or simetimes spine, for a tail, and all three get used for other attachments, like skirts and riding horses.

Thank you for the suggestions Ceera- I will try repositioning the chest piece to the spine.

For collars. I specifically use Marine Kelley's for Restrained Life. It is not just a "collar", it is a system of wrist/arm/thigh/ankle cuffs and collar called Serious Shackles. There is also a reduced system called "Elegance Shackles" which consist of wrist/ankle cuffs and collar.

As far as Master is concerned. Those who seek never find.

Surround yourself with the lifestyle you wish to live in SL and you will eventually become a part of it - and I do mean "lifestyle", not that bunk D/s role play crap.

if you use the skull and other parts of the head, won't the collar move with the head... and look strange?

(never made collars, but the necklaces I made I think I attached to the chest) not in world to double check though.

You could try Isle of Shadows, they offer BDSM education in their sim as well as having an online connections board.
http://www.aikostardesigns.com/

I agree with Marcel .. I found a Master and i was not looking at all. He turned out to be the guy who loved inthe house next to were i was staying in SL. We started as friends and things changed and we got closer. That was 2 yrs ago, 11 mths ago i submitted to him and could not be happier.
As for the collar there are so many but in my view all that a collar needs is the kneeling and maybe a leash. I have the Omega mainly because it is a BDSM one not gorean and they look good. To many rely on the collars ability to have others give commands but really should not the slave know her owner to know when to kneel or can he not tell her?
Oh and i wont comment about RLV but if you catch me in world and want to know ill tell you

Yes, they will look strange. That is why I said they are less stable. Depending on your pose and movement, those points *may* look OK, or may shift out of position.

You could sell your siks with 2 chest pieces! I see more and more that offer different attachment points. It's great for customers. Not all learn how to take a copy, choose "attach to" instead of "wear" and then edit it until it sits right.