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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
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01-05-2009 14:36
From what you wrote, Sarah paid LL for the island and, from LL's point of view, she is the only one who has any rights to it. Your private agreement with her is no good unless you have a written contract. You say you can prove that you paid her the money via PayPal, but PayPal records are no good to you. You could have paid her the money for many reasons, including a gift.
Infortunately, unless you have a contract, or something suitable this is written and signed, there is nothing you can do, except to take it as a lesson so that you never do anything like it again.
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EliteData Maximus
Technical Geek
Join date: 3 Oct 2007
Posts: 298
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-this response is not related to Inyur's post-
01-05-2009 22:21
inyur, let me know if there are some things i can do to help promote your current place for you on my mainland sim. perhaps relocate you next to pistachio so avatars can check it out. it kind of bothers me a bit to see you sit in your place by yourself all alone. the three of us were discussing it. i know you went through some bad times, but i can guarantee you this, i am certainly not the type of person to stab anyone in the back of befriend them. i like to bring people together to have fun and make new friends.
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Cortex Draper
Registered User
Join date: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 406
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01-06-2009 06:07
From: Inyur Orbit Here it is in a nut shell answer pretty much who did what and who is who. And I quote.
Get it WE BOTH PAID...
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"My shared land partner Sarah Showboat who we together purchased to use Avaron Island. We both paid about 800.00 USD each to share the island.
Since the fall of gambling, she has slid from underneath our distant agreement to our land size we were allocated. And as of recent days since September 15th 2007 apparently "she" has abandoned me as her partner, with no re-imbursement of our shared land. That includes 3 months (at the time of this writing) of back rent owed me for my unability to use my land. She has even put me to ignoring me. It is unfair treatment that i am recieving. Being 1/2 "owner" of Avaron Island. I can't force her to talk to me, i can't force her to turn on my status to be able to use my allocation of land, being 3x4096=2811 size lot that we both agreed to have before the island came online. That she continues to rent out to other avatars, and collects the funds to herself. We at first always agreed to speak to each other on matters of the island Via Skype and with voice and since July she has spoken 1 time. And that was when she sent me to a corner of the island, and then she revokes this from me..and is not responding to anything i say. I have just as much right to speak on this island and issue as I paid and I have full proof of what i paid to "sarah showboat" in Feb of this year, via Paypal. Please help me. I feel she has voilated me and Second Life and the Federal law on Internet fraud in many ways." She obviously owes you something, but the problem is you think she owes you something different from what she actualy owes you 1. You paid her $800 for half an island. She owes you that back 2. You DONT own half of the land since linden labs dont allow 2 people to own an island together. Any rent gained on the land is hers to keep. If she gave you a share of it, you owe it back to her. 3. You owe her any rent you agreed to pay her while on HER island if there was any. She cannot suddenly say "oh that 800 was the rent" as she should have told you beforehand. Confusing yes, but its important to realise what is owed and what isnt. I am not a lawyer and it will proberbly take one of those to sort this mess out Actually she possibly lost more money due to you than you ever paid her !! She has to pay $295 per month in tier to maintain the island. So the fraction of the island you were given "rent free" for your own use times 295 times the months you had it is possibly more than 800. We would need to know the exact amount of land allocated to you and for exactly how long to do that calculation.
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Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
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01-06-2009 06:07
well you could have a lawyer subpoena LL to get chat records of conversations between you two making a contract..that is always possible..i mean if the money lost is worth the effort or you feel the justice would be worth the cost.. A judge may find it binding if chat records and transactions and a lot of things line up..it's not murder you are proving so it doesn't have to be without reasonable doubt..you just have to convince a judge..
still if this person is from another state or country or neither of you live in the U.S..i don't know. it would seem slim if you couldn't get server logs.. this is just my opinion.i'm not a lawyer or anything like that.just a person in business herself..
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