Do the Lindens get rewarded beyond pay?

Just out of curiosity, the Lindens (The people) work for LL, and do so much for SL, really, even if we complain tons anyway.

I was wondering if they get rewarded in any way beyond pay? Like for EQ2 I know Guides get free accounts, and while they are volunteers, I'm sure that the paid GMs do as well, and the same goes for a few other games, I know for sure.

Is something similar done for the Lindens, do they get free premium status or anything, or do they just get paid their salary and that's that?

ETA:: Beyond the Linden account. I'd think that alias would be a special account only to be used for 'Lindening' or something, like the guides and GMs and such of other games.

I'm sure most residents are more than willing to give them free items that are normally for sale. I see many of them have photoreal skins. I'm guessing the land each Linden has is tier free. And... Then... There's god mode. (=_=)

Yeah, most do look awesome, whether it's skin or prim av... Torley's always saying thanks to people for stuff in his vids and whatnot. Didn't think about the land, sounds likely though, and...well..god mode is pretty useful sometimes, I'm sure XD

Wonder if I asked a Linden they'd tell me..or if they'd say it's classified..or if they'd complain that they don't. XD

Why.. they have the Love Machine!

http://www.secondlifeinsider.com/2006/12/05/the-love-machine-unveiled/

http://valleywag.com/tech/philip-rosedale/second-lifes-love-machine-242445.php

I love the wording of that second one XD

On more than one of the silly threads claiming that a Linden stole some resident's whatsit, I've seen it stated that Linden employees who are expected to have an inworld presence get an allowance of something like $L 5,000 per month. They were expected to participate in the inworld economy; I myself have seen a Linden buy boots.

We haven't had one of those threads for a while (thank the primal cause), so I can't find the reference, which was long enough ago that things may have changed at LL since.
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LOL I just caught that.

Oh coolies ^_^

I'm so totally asking a Linden when I get home... I really wanna know what they get beyond RL pay o.o

Well - they have donuts on Fridays. There's the annual BBQ where Philip gets in the dunk tank. They have a co-ed softball team. Free t-shirts that say "It's not my fault the Grid is down, I work in marketing", and, of course, don't forget the expense accounts. Sweet, sweet expense accounts.

Not really sure... most of the lindens i've seen...one of them had a default av. And the rest looked cheap. I think the LL's coders doesn't worry about how they look...and they log in to fix/improve the grid in fact there's an account level called like "Cube", "Super Cuber" or "White Cube".

Let's see, I remember seeing Pathfinder tip a live musician...

Someone who made a HUD product Torley suggested, and a couple Linden's used, said they have to buy their L$, but do have a stipend. If they are testing something, they can apparently activate an unlimited L$ mode, but all they spend is logged and they have to obviously explain why.

/me doesn't believe emotional shopping would be accepted

When I had my land held concerts I had Linden liaison come listen to music he got freebie glasses of champagne.

mmyeah... a lot of the Lindens don't look so great if they're not directly in contact with residents a lot, but if you look at basically all that are often in contact with residents, and who do the PR and such in-world, they all look good. Coders and such I wouldn't expect to care, but I wouldn't be surprised if LL 'encouraged' the PR and such to look good, to display that LL takes advantage of the good things in SL, since they're supposed to ya'know..be running it =P

ooooohhh good info ^_^

I would so get in trouble... 'Why did you spend 80,000 L$ on a 512m parcel?'

Well..Sir..uhh..I..yasee... isn't it PRETTY!?

Hmm maybe if the coders don't hang out much in SL is why they keep breaking things? Just a theory.
I doesn't get why someone in charge would even allow someone who only works for place has not ever used nor understands the product personally.
Yet if you were very involved resident who got god mode and unlimited linden mode key....gee that would be just torturous temptation.

Free islands?

WE are the Linden's biggest reward.


*eyes roll and laughter ensues in the offices of the Lab.*

True if there weren't people here who paid and used the product
they wouldn't exist as Lindens unless Phil just wanted them to work
creating world just for him....

QFT

Which is why I wonder why some (not all) of them seem to have such an attitude about interacting with residents.

I think they are just too busy making stuff personally.
It sort of like those self important content makers who in the profile say don't im me I am too busy making stuff.
I understand wanting to make things and wanting to be focused, sometimes grumpy and stressed but heck at what extent is value of those around you who make the world become less important then the creating process?

I like creating personally here, I know I suck as business person thats why I don't do it.
I guess the programmers or those who make the world might be the same way they want to code and make things too....don't want to deal with someone saying,
"pls give some L?" or whatever else they may have to deal with.
Lindens are people too I bet they get stressed out to about stuff not working.

I realize that a lot of them are very advanced creators, but if there job also entails helping residents, they need to find a balance to do their job well.

Most jobs have fun parts and sucky parts. The fun parts are what get people to apply for the job, but the sucky parts are what people are really getting paid for. if the fun part is that fun, many people would be willing to do it for free. there are a lot of people in SL who create just for the joy of creating, and don't get paid by LL to do it. Not only that, sometimes there are issues where the only person who CAN help is a Linden.

I don't like it when I call a business and the person on the other end has a tone like I am bothering them and they can't wait to tell me "submit a ticket" and then rush to hang up the phone.

Based on the aspects of Second Life that Linden Labs chooses to develop, and which aspects of Second Life that Linden Labs chooses to ignore, I would be surprised to hear that very many Lindens actually played in Second Life.

Sometimes the creating becomes more important and every one else outside your circle becomes annoying.
I saw this a whole lot while I was in beta in TSO.
When I was high ranking player in beta it was about how much simeoleans I could earn per game, I didn't want to waste my time with lower level players cause I had a sim to build.
I sort of lost perspective and burned out when I realized what I was doing.
I have been bit torn sometimes with that type of mentality here within myself and others too.
I want to create, I have good friends who have been very generous.
Yet what matters more is time when we are together creating together then anything else like acquiring more stuff.
I think game designers and coders, get also very single minded and focused too and lose the whole picture.
It sort of like when you are zoomed in one small thing you're building, you begin to stop seeing everything else.

A cool last name, and all the pixel sex they want.

P2

I just grabbed the first job posting in their job posts...no mention of a salary, however who in their right mind with an engineering degree would work for free???
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Department: Operations

Employment Status: Full Time

Vision and Mission:
To connect us all to an online world that advances the human condition.

Linden Lab was founded in 1999 by Philip Rosedale to create a revolutionary new form of shared experience, where individuals jointly inhabit a 3D landscape and build the world around them. Today this experience, known as Second Life, has a rapidly growing population of Residents from 100 countries around the globe, who are creating and inhabiting a virtual world of their own design.

Founder Philip Rosedale is the former CTO of RealNetworks, where he pioneered the development and deployment of streaming media technologies. Linden Lab is funded by a group of notable early stage investors including Mitch Kapor, founder of Lotus Development, Catamount Ventures, and Benchmark Capital.

Based in San Francisco and founded in 1999, Linden Lab employs a senior development team bringing together expertise in physics, 3D graphics and networking. Team members have previously worked at leading entertainment companies such as Electronic Arts, Disney, THQ, Acclaim, Hasbro, and Mattel.

Overview:
Linden Lab seeks an experienced Customer Systems Engineer to join its team. This senior engineer will design, setup, deploy, and troubleshoot Second Life systems in new data centers. They will work closely with customers to create and extend the infrastructure on which Second Life is built: a vast array of Linux-based servers, a highly automated deployment system, and a sophisticated toolset. Linden Lab is a fast-paced company, so flexibility and enthusiasm are key to success in this position.

Responsibilities:

Design and deploy Second Life systems into data centers
Gather customer technical requirements
Ordering, installing, configuring and testing customer's Linux machines
Troubleshoot networking issues
Investigate application bugs and work with developers to fix
Launch assistance and support
Occasional on-call support and expert triage of production grid issues
Assist other systems engineers and members of the IT team
Document all of the above
Work in collaboration with operations, support, release and development teams

Qualifications:

Expert knowledge of Linux administration
Experience with Linux/UNIX development tools
Strong knowledge of networking
Exceptional diagnostic and analytic skills

Results oriented and very responsive to customer requests
Ability to consistently meet committed customer delivery dates and timelines
Experience working with telcos and/or enterprise customers
Excellent written and verbal communication skills, including documentation
Customer project management skills a plus
Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or equivalent preferred
Knowledge of web & network protocols (TCP/IP, SSL, DNS, HTTP, SMTP, DOM, XML, CSS, LDAP, SNMP, etc) a big plus
Scripting ability in shell and at least one other language (Perl, Python, PHP, JavaScript). C/C++ coding/debugging skills a plus but not required
Knowledge of MySQL, Apache, Debian, 64-bit systems, Postfix, Squid, Kerberos, Nagios, Ganglia, other monitoring technologies all a plus. Configuration and tuning experience appreciated
Experience with large installations (>100 systems), regular NOC environments, or networks spanning multiple datacenter locations a plus
Must thrive in the face of large, complex, unpredictable challenges

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They get paid...but fringe bennies...not sure