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Is This Worth an Abuse Report?

Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 16:08
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Thanks for all the comments....

I guess my wittle fweelings were hurt cause it's the first time someone has been that rude to me! *sob* I have been orbited once too, but it was someone's home security and I was too noobish to know how to get out of there quickly. LOL

/me needs a hug


*hugs*
Annabelle Babii
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11-01-2007 16:08
My HUD will allow me to mimic any other resident, and kill any resident in range (damage enabled land only)*

If you're killed, you TP home.

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*doesn't mean I use these features
Bradley Bracken
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11-01-2007 16:11
I'm concerned about the owner. Hate for you to be chased away because some griefer might have been in his store. Was it his? PM message one of us to go check it out for you if you'd like.
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Har Fairweather
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11-01-2007 16:18
If the "store-owners" name and/or text were colored green, it was a faker.
Maggie McArdle
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11-01-2007 16:19
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Thanks for all the comments....

I guess my wittle fweelings were hurt cause it's the first time someone has been that rude to me! *sob* I have been orbited once too, but it was someone's home security and I was too noobish to know how to get out of there quickly. LOL

/me needs a hug

gives You a hug and some Ben n Jerry's Chunky Monkey.
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-01-2007 16:28
You were right and very thoughtful to refuse to buy off someone standing there, when you could buy from a vendor.

There was a scam going around (maybe still is) where people pretend to be the owner of the shop and try that.

I agree that you should get in touch with the owner of the store, as this all seems awfully fishy.

If it turns out that it is the same guy, well, you can at least take pleasure in knowing that he won't be making just a whole lot of sales.

(Sometimes I actually think some people don't care about actually making sales, but just feel like to feel like big shots, playing what they think of as "businesspeople," and throwing their weight around.)

It is very shocking to be suddenly mistreated by a total stranger, and have your feelings upset. I wouldn't worry overly about having that reaction; it's normal.

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Bradley Bracken
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11-01-2007 16:55
From: Cocoanut Koala
It is very shocking to be suddenly mistreated by a total stranger, and have your feelings upset. I wouldn't worry overly about having that reaction; it's normal.

coco


In past work I've worked with some of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the U.S. (not bragging, I'm surely NOT one of them) and always found them to be respectful. It makes me laugh when I see some of the business owners in SL who take themselves way too seriously.

Glad most out there are pretty damn good people. Helps me to avoid those insecure blow hards.
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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11-01-2007 17:03
If it was truly the store owner, I would send one last IM thanking me for letting me know what kind of person I was about to do business with before I spent my money, mute him, and go looking for a better product.
Ricky Yates
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11-01-2007 17:15
From: Har Fairweather
If the "store-owners" name and/or text were colored green, it was a faker.

Succinctly put. That's the key to identifying a fake message.

Har, if you now also know how to TP home an av on 3rd party, non-damage enabled land you get the big Fidel Castro style cigar. :D
3Ring Binder
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11-01-2007 17:30
From: Har Fairweather
If the "store-owners" name and/or text were colored green, it was a faker.

really. i did not know that. i've seen a few of those lately, and the people were very polite and i just assumed they were on the up and up. oh man, i've been chumped! :eek:
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Angelique LaFollette
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11-01-2007 17:40
A Land owner can eject and ban you if they take a dislike to the colour of your Tie.
You Do not have a Right to be on their Land.

I would content myself with the Knowledge that, if this is what they consider Good customer relations, they will Very soon be out of Business.

Forget the AR, and do your blood pressure a favor by taking your custom elsewhere.

Angel.
Bellissa Dion
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Quick note
11-02-2007 00:09
From: someone

Originally Posted by Reitsuki Kojima
Because nothing he did was against the rules - he used the land owner tools provided by linden labs in a legitimate way, albiet a rude one. Putting one more abuse report, and one that has no actual offense behind it at that, into an already over-flowing queue is abusing the system.


From: Solanghe Sarlo
Oh. Duly noted.


Just a quick note Solanghe.

Land owner tools via the land options menu (those provided by Linden Lab) do not include any way of teleporting you home. All that can happen is you are ejected off their land. As someone stated previously, he must have used a third party tool and this is not acceptable at all even if he is the land owner.

The only occurrence of teleport home that is in any way 'legal' (other than dying lol) is via a security orb with a warning and timer, and even this is frowned upon, although not against TOS. Most use these responsibly and for good reasons.

I'd put this one down to experience but be aware of what land owners can do using the tools offered by LL as opposed to scripted devices which may fall outside the TOS. This will allow you to make a judgment of whether you need to AR. Knowledge is power.

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Cristiano Midnight
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11-02-2007 00:15
Although he did in fact abuse you, as some else said, the AR system is already overflowing and really isn't all that effective anyway, as it is wildly subjective. The best revenge is to make sure that you let people know not to buy from this person. It may not seem like much, but it is one tangible thing you can do, and word of mouth can be surpisingly effective in both directions.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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11-02-2007 05:48
From: 3Ring Binder
really. i did not know that. i've seen a few of those lately, and the people were very polite and i just assumed they were on the up and up. oh man, i've been chumped! :eek:

If the text is colored green it means the text comes from a scripted object. This could be a scripted information dispenser belonging to the the store owner, legitimately giving out information on products. It could be from a scripted object belonging to a conman or a prankster. The color of the text indicates something about the nature of the source of the text, not about the intentions of the sender.

So it's not really true that green text means faker text, it just means text from a scripted object rather than text produced by someone typing.



The big colored rectangles with words underneath show the default colors the SL interface uses to distinguish the different types of text the system displays in the scrolling console text and elsewhere.

One can customize these colors, so it's not even true that green HAS to be the color used for text from objects, but if one modifies these colors they will have to translate "green text" to "my object text colored text" as needed.
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Ravenhurst Xeno
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11-02-2007 07:31
From: Ricky Yates


Har, if you now also know how to TP home an av on 3rd party, non-damage enabled land you get the big Fidel Castro style cigar. :D


Not exactly 3rd party, but if it was group land, the llTeleportAgentHome script function can be used by anyone in the group to eject someone from the group's land.
Lear Cale
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11-02-2007 08:31
From: 3Ring Binder
i have no idea who to use someone elses name, nor do i want to know. i hate that it's even possible! :(

TPing someone is also annoying, and should not be allowed beyond an ejection beyond land ownership.


You can give an object any name and have the object speak. Of course, the text is a different color. IMs from such an object don't come up in an IM window. So, you CAN tell them apart, but only if you know how.

IMHO, the OP was acting very reasonably. There are two possibilities.

A) It WAS the store owner. In this case, there was no abuse, just rudeness. Don't buy any scripts from this asshole.

B) It was someone else. In this case, it will probably happen to someone who is technically savvy enough to figure it out and tell the owner or file an AR with all the necessary details. However, if you feel particularly motivated (and are willing to deal with more abuse if it's case A), you could investigate further and let the shop owner know.

Frankly, I bet it's case A, and if it's case B and keeps happening the owner will find out. So, I'd just have a good vent and then let it go.
Solanghe Sarlo
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11-02-2007 09:14
From: Annabelle Babii
My HUD will allow me to mimic any other resident, and kill any resident in range (damage enabled land only)*

If you're killed, you TP home.

RESOLVED


*doesn't mean I use these features



SO! It was YOOOOOOOOO! *points dramatically at Anna*

:p
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Solanghe Sarlo
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11-02-2007 09:27
So many helpful replies. I learned some things too, as usual when I post here.

If anyone is interested, I would be most happy to provide you with the name/store if you're so inclined to check it out - just PM me. I think I will just let it go in consideration of my blood pressure as someone suggested. *grumbles about stupid third party push scripts...*


*return huggles to Brenda* :p

*return huggles and an extra snuggle to Maggie who also gave me Ben & Jerry's!* :D
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Marcel Flatley
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11-02-2007 09:36
Be glad you did not buy anything there, I know pretty sure what store this is, because i happened to get the same treatment.

My search was for a script to open 2 doors together (double doors) so I was looking in the store and got the IM. He offered me the script Full Perm for 2k linden! Well I kindly told I was going to look some more and got booted. Half an hour later I found the script for 1 linden on SLX... so apparantly the store owner is affraid people will find out about his scams.

Greetings, Marcel
Darien Caldwell
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11-02-2007 11:57
I'll bet 10,000L this store owner's last name began with the letters B-A-L-L... :p

He's Notorious...
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