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Is This Worth an Abuse Report?

Solanghe Sarlo
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11-01-2007 13:17
Hey guys,

Here's a little incident that I'm not sure if it is worth an AR (other than to make me feel better cause I am PO'd).

So, I decided to visit a script store as I have not been able to find the script I want in the scripts forum, etc...

While looking around in this rather large store, I get an IM from someone claiming ownership of the store and offering to sell me the script directly. I checked and it did appear that this was the actual owner talking to me, but to be safe I POLITELY declined and stated that I would purchase the script from the wall vendor, but thanks anyway.

Suddenly I was being TP'd and ended up at my home. When I asked, 'Hey, did you just TP me?" This person stated, "Damn right I did. You can't buy from me you don't need to be in my store. I told you I'm the owner!"

*shock and gasp* My reply: "Look. I try to help out the content creators by not buying direct from an individual unless I've prearranged that. Why should you care anyway if I buy it from you or your vendor, you're still getting the business. Only not anymore since you were so rude to a potiential customer". :mad: <---this is how I looked.

I then muted the person, so I only got part of the reply, which was telling me that I was the one being rude, yadda yadda. :eek:

Anyway....is it worth an AR for that kind of a**hole behavior? Oh should I just chalk it up to you know, whatever?

Sol
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Reitsuki Kojima
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11-01-2007 13:18
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Hey guys,

Here's a little incident that I'm not sure if it is worth an AR (other than to make me feel better cause I am PO'd).

So, I decided to visit a script store as I have not been able to find the script I want in the scripts forum, etc...

While looking around in this rather large store, I get an IM from someone claiming ownership of the store and offering to sell me the script directly. I checked and it did appear that this was the actual owner talking to me, but to be safe I POLITELY declined and stated that I would purchase the script from the wall vendor, but thanks anyway.

Suddenly I was being TP'd and ended up at my home. When I asked, 'Hey, did you just TP me?" This person stated, "Damn right I did. You can't buy from me you don't need to be in my store. I told you I'm the owner!"

*shock and gasp* My reply: "Look. I try to help out the content creators by not buying direct from an individual unless I've prearranged that. Why should you care anyway if I buy it from you or your vendor, you're still getting the business. Only not anymore since you were so rude to a potiential customer". :mad: <---this is how I looked.

I then muted the person, so I only got part of the reply, which was telling me that I was the one being rude, yadda yadda. :eek:

Anyway....is it worth an AR for that kind of a**hole behavior? Oh should I just chalk it up to you know, whatever?

Sol


ARing that would be an abuse of the system.
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Meade Paravane
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11-01-2007 13:19
Sadly, being a jerk isn't illegal..

If it's his store, he could have ejected you because he didn't like your shoes. Be satisfied that he lost a customer and that you'll tell your scripting friends what happened.
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Solanghe Sarlo
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11-01-2007 13:20
From: Reitsuki Kojima
ARing that would be an abuse of the system.



Ok. Can you expound a bit as to why? I haven't AR much so I really don't know.
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Oryx Tempel
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11-01-2007 13:21
Just chalk it up to assholiness. Don't worry about the AR.
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Atom Burma
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11-01-2007 13:22
well he booted you back to your 'home' with a scripted device, which is illegal for one. and I won't buy anything, accept anything AT ALL from anyone, with scripts that can do anything from steal all your cash to your password you were smart not to accept it from a stranger. as a shop owner I would never force items onto potential customers, he was most likely sitting closeby with a radar and selling items to anyone who walked by. I would report it, at the least to the shop owner and let him know that some guy is scalping items at his shop.
Ricky Yates
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11-01-2007 13:24
I cannot help at wondering about the business practices of some people.

I woulf be very grateful if you could IM me the name in-word so that me and my friends make sure never to buy from this individual.
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11-01-2007 13:24
i wouldn't bother with an AR. i know you're miffed, but you'll get past that. so sorry some people are so rude.

i surely wouldn't ever go back there and give them my money either.

which script do you need? i might be able to help you locate it elsewhere? at worst, someone can make you a custom one. i have a script guy if it comes to that.
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11-01-2007 13:27
From: Atom Burma
and I won't buy anything, accept anything AT ALL from anyone, with scripts that can do anything from steal all your cash to your password you were smart not to accept it from a stranger.

EXCELLENT advice!
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as a shop owner I would never force items onto potential customers, he was most likely sitting closeby with a radar and selling items to anyone who walked by. I would report it, at the least to the shop owner and let him know that some guy is scalping items at his shop.

OMG! that never even entered my mind. great idea. altho, how can be ban and eject if not the owner?
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Atom Burma
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11-01-2007 13:29
From: 3Ring Binder
EXCELLENT advice!

OMG! that never even entered my mind. great idea. altho, how can be ban and eject if not the owner?


You can't ban and eject without being the owner. But I have a device that I bought commercially with a bunch of crazy particle effects and such, a shield, and some freezing features, as well as a boot to home option. And it works anywhere on the grid, don't know how, not a great scripter, but there is a way to return an avie to whatever home position they set, irregardless of who owns the land.
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11-01-2007 13:30
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Ok. Can you expound a bit as to why? I haven't AR much so I really don't know.


Because nothing he did was against the rules - he used the land owner tools provided by linden labs in a legitimate way, albiet a rude one. Putting one more abuse report, and one that has no actual offense behind it at that, into an already over-flowing queue is abusing the system.
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11-01-2007 13:32
From: Atom Burma
You can't ban and eject without being the owner. But I have a device that I bought commercially with a bunch of crazy particle effects and such, a shield, and some freezing features, as well as a boot to home option. And it works anywhere on the grid, don't know how, not a great scripter, but there is a way to return an avie to whatever home position they set, irregardless of who owns the land.

i would love a copy of that script!
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Ricky Yates
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11-01-2007 13:32
From: Atom Burma
You can't ban and eject without being the owner. But I have a device that I bought commercially with a bunch of crazy particle effects and such, a shield, and some freezing features, as well as a boot to home option. And it works anywhere on the grid, don't know how, not a great scripter, but there is a way to return an avie to whatever home position they set, irregardless of who owns the land.
Out of academic interest (I really don't want to build the next griefer weapon) ... can someone shed some light on how to do this, please ? I know about push et al., but TP home??

Maybe IM or NC me in-world ... this is not the right stuff to post here.
Atom Burma
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11-01-2007 13:38
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Because nothing he did was against the rules - he used the land owner tools provided by linden labs in a legitimate way, albiet a rude one. Putting one more abuse report, and one that has no actual offense behind it at that, into an already over-flowing queue is abusing the system.


That's if he is the actual owner of the shop, which is still a bit unclear. If it was then no, he can't really be penalized for being something other than a really bad business person. But there are a lot of instances of people walking up to customers in shops and selling items directly, in shops they don't own. Which seems to be the case.

And the recent occurrance of people selling items or giving items away for 'free' that strip all your cash. Which has sky rocketed into a total panic of urban myth inworld. Most of these instances are always a friend, of a friend, of a friend, told me this happened. But some do happen.

Either way if somebody popped up an IM in my chat and tried to give or sell me anything I wouldn't take it. Unless I buy it off a wall and can backtrack the item to a shop and owner I am not accapting it into my inventory.
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11-01-2007 13:41
i have received spam from 5-10 avatars at one time, all offering the same things, all from neighboring parcels and sims.... and they all swore they did not send it, and that they got stuff sent from me... so it is possible.

SCARY!

best advice today is to not accept candy from strangers.
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11-01-2007 13:42
From: Ricky Yates
Out of academic interest (I really don't want to build the next griefer weapon) ... can someone shed some light on how to do this, please ? I know about push et al., but TP home??

Maybe IM or NC me in-world ... this is not the right stuff to post here.


Well I don't have the script or even the rights to modify the object at all, or even remember where I bought it to be honest. I bought it because it has a shield mostly and I am sick of random people falling out of the sky with automatic rifles. But it makes a few silly particles and covers people in stone, few odd offensive things, which I really don't use btw, just the defensive ones.
Ricky Yates
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11-01-2007 13:43
From: 3Ring Binder
i have received spam from 5-10 avatars at one time, all offering the same things, all from neighboring parcels and sims.... and they all swore they did not send it, and that they got stuff sent from me... so it is possible.

SCARY!

best advice today is to not accept candy from strangers.
Sending something so that it seems to have been sent in another resident's name is pretty easy ...

TP'in home on a 3rd party's parcel w/o permissions is not, though.
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11-01-2007 13:43
it sounds like something used in Rausch.
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11-01-2007 13:43
/me offers 3Ring some candy.
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3Ring Binder
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11-01-2007 13:44
From: Ricky Yates
Sending something so that it seems to have been sent in another resident's name is pretty easy ...

TP'in home on a 3rd party's parcel w/o permissions is not, though.

i have no idea who to use someone elses name, nor do i want to know. i hate that it's even possible! :(

TPing someone is also annoying, and should not be allowed beyond an ejection beyond land ownership.
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11-01-2007 13:44
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you, my love, are not a stranger. ;)
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Solanghe Sarlo
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11-01-2007 13:50
From: Reitsuki Kojima
Because nothing he did was against the rules - he used the land owner tools provided by linden labs in a legitimate way, albiet a rude one. Putting one more abuse report, and one that has no actual offense behind it at that, into an already over-flowing queue is abusing the system.



Oh. Duly noted.
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11-01-2007 14:05
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Hey guys,

Here's a little incident that I'm not sure if it is worth an AR (other than to make me feel better cause I am PO'd).

So, I decided to visit a script store as I have not been able to find the script I want in the scripts forum, etc...

While looking around in this rather large store, I get an IM from someone claiming ownership of the store and offering to sell me the script directly. I checked and it did appear that this was the actual owner talking to me, but to be safe I POLITELY declined and stated that I would purchase the script from the wall vendor, but thanks anyway.

Suddenly I was being TP'd and ended up at my home. When I asked, 'Hey, did you just TP me?" This person stated, "Damn right I did. You can't buy from me you don't need to be in my store. I told you I'm the owner!"

*shock and gasp* My reply: "Look. I try to help out the content creators by not buying direct from an individual unless I've prearranged that. Why should you care anyway if I buy it from you or your vendor, you're still getting the business. Only not anymore since you were so rude to a potiential customer". :mad: <---this is how I looked.

I then muted the person, so I only got part of the reply, which was telling me that I was the one being rude, yadda yadda. :eek:

Anyway....is it worth an AR for that kind of a**hole behavior? Oh should I just chalk it up to you know, whatever?

Sol


chalk it up, chances are it was not the owner as you were in the store. there are plenty of other talented and more cordial scripters out there and by the time you read this reply you will prolly have already been contacted by them. good luck!
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11-01-2007 14:24
That's VERY strange behavior, if the person actually WAS the store owner.

I would go back to the store and try to buy the item again, from the vendor. If it goes through, then send an IM to the owner and tell him about the incident. You could say something like,

"If the person I spoke to on my earlier visit WAS you, I apologize for upsetting you. I didn't mean to accuse you of anything, but there are so many scammers who go around trying to pose as store owners that I am very wary of buying from anyone except through a vendor machine.

"If the person was NOT you, then I just wanted to let you know what happened, so you can be on the lookout if the person shows up at your store again."
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Solanghe Sarlo
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11-01-2007 16:04
Thanks for all the comments....

I guess my wittle fweelings were hurt cause it's the first time someone has been that rude to me! *sob* I have been orbited once too, but it was someone's home security and I was too noobish to know how to get out of there quickly. LOL

/me needs a hug
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