Skybox Without Land

Hello all:
I already have a post about skyboxes, but I didn't want to make things confusing since I have another question about skyboxes, hence this post.

Firstly, I own no land at all. My question is: If I purchase a fully furnished skybox, can I use it in sandboxes and/or land that permits building, as a sort of "temporary home" for a couple of hours?

I would really like to just rez the furnished skybox where a couple of friends can join me for chat or whatnot, having a little privacy (I know there is no such thing as privacy in SL, but you get the idea).

yes. though beware of "the sweeping"...

The sweeping? Does that mean the regular clearing out of items in the sandbox?

I would use the skybox just as one would use a tent: break it out, erect it, use it, break it down, put away. Will that work?

And be aware that you will make builders in the sandbox cranky for sucking up the prim count. Fear the griefing. How about finding a nice club or park where you can meet your friends?

yes, that's what i meant. it would all work for sure. the only "problem" would be, even if the sandbox clears every 5 hours, you might rez everything 2 minutes before that "clearng". (though i could be wrong and it's a return "timer" per each item from the moment it's rezzed. i haven't really had much sandbox time)

suddenly i hear strains of "Don't Fear The Griefer"...

(needs more cowbell...)

Yes, you can. Although that prim count point is a good one. It may be less annoying to other builders, and a lot cheaper too, to just rez a big flat prim, hoist it up in the sky, and use that as your temporary workshop.

You can even squat for longer periods...if you look around and find some abandoned or Linden-owned land with Build enabled and autoreturn off. As a paying landowner, of course, I frown on such practices.

And welcome to Second Life and to the Forums!

With regard to the prim count, it's perfectly possible to create a simple three-prim skybox and rez single-prim sit cushions for people to sit on. Half a dozen avatars could sit and natter for less than ten prims total.

I agree with Rusalka, though. There are thousands of sims in SL, catering to many tastes. Cafes galore, beautiful forest regions, any and all kinds of place where you could find time to be with your friends, and in a much nicer and more interactive way than sitting in a skybox (pleasant though that can be if you just want to catch up with the gossip).

Well I just bought a $99 furnished skybox. Sleek and simple. Yes, I should probably steer clear of the sandboxes for fear of taking up space; I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. I do know of a couple of places I could use. Just today I found a parcel of land named after my hometown of Tulsa. It's just a huge plot of grass. I know I could just create a simple platform, but I've been itching for something swanky to use. Why have a plain platform when you could have a stylish bachelor pad? I will, however, probably work to the point where I can create something of my own. Currently I have zero building skills, or any other "jobs" available in SL, other than being part of the Help Desk for newbies. I like to give back what others did for me when I joined in 2006.

Cheers!

I would imagine that the reason to do this in a skybox is that you want to chat with just your friends without interruption, therefore a cafe or hangout is not a great option. Using your own skybox would also give you somewhat the feel of being a 'host'.

If you find the right sandbox, particularly one that is run by people who are not in your time zone, this could work. Particularly if you keep the prim count low, as has been suggested. But don't be amazed if you find yourselves being harassed by someone!

Personally, I wouldn't bother with a sandbox. If you have friends with land, you might ask if any of them would be willing to occasionally let you do this at some out-of-the-way height, assuming that you let them know WHEN you're planning to be there.

Either that or yes, find a lonely spot with build on. And be sure you don't litter!

Thanks for the tips! You hit the nail on the head when you said the word 'host'. That's exactly what I'm aiming for. If I can't afford to own land, then I should be able to 'pitch a tent' and have a little impromptu gathering. No crowds, just a few friends, for maybe an hour or two. Luckily, the skybox I purchased only uses 108 prims, which I understand is relatively low. Thanks again!!

Yes 108 prims is ok, but it is still a lot for a skybox! Make sure your using a sandbox that has 5,000 prims allocated to it, then having the 108 skybox on should be fine, just remember sandboxes are really just for building and testing usually.

108 Prims is actually very high for a personal skybox. Mine is 45, and I find that a bit on the high end for a 512 plot of land (which supports 117 prims).

xstreet skyboxes and sort by prim count - least to most. I've got several other buildings I use that are much lower than my home box, but I also have 1126 sqm of land.

If you really want to start hosting socials, you should just break down and get yourself some land. It'll save a lot of hassle in the long run.

might look at sim that are for sell you can build on them too,,, best sand box you will ever have lol hmmmm good luck okie and tc

I should mention that mine is a fully furnished skybox.

I'd still say that's high.

I didn't bust 90 until after my second platform and my ground level garden.

Well, I did, but then I swapped things out and got back down after doing so broke my 'bed' when one of the toys tried to rezz during use and blew things past the prim limit.

Especially if you're "sneaking" that thing onto sandboxes or other's land - you should keep as light a prim-print as you can.

The make of my skybox has an unfurnished one at 34 prims, and she's not a prim saver like some designers:
https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=600818

- Take that, add a 1 to 9 prim bed, some 1 prim chairs and couches, and you're set.

"Shan Bright" sells some starter furniture. A mega kit full of different 1 prim items. Some of then very nice, some of them very not so nice.
"Ashtyn Ninetails" Has some very nice looking low prim furniture.


The lower you can get your prim count, the more places you'll be able to put your getup.

Pussycat is right, 108 is high for a hobo's skybox. You might consider charging, say, $15 on your credit card and renting a 512 m2 for a few months. I think you should be able to find a mainland rental for ~$L350/week (what is that, $1.30, U.S.?), but others know better than I do.
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I have a detailed notecard of the costs of owning mainland I can send to anyone who wants it. Next time I'm on I'll copy paste it into the forum.

The long and short of it is that a premium account ends up costing about the price of a single latter at Starbucks every -month- once you factor in the stipend. But that does not account for VAT.

It is something to keep in mind when comparing the cost of mainland versus a rental. Once you account for the stipend, rentals don't sound as cheap as they did at first. So if you go rental, do it because you think your landlord can handle owning the land better than you can.


Or get a smaller skybox.

If you're hanging out in sandboxes or as a squatter on for sale or abandoned land, you really need to work on being hidden. You really might want to even consider the 1-prim box option. Make the outside texture transparent, the inside a wall and floor. But that stops working the moment you pull out furniture.
EDIT: Actually hollow doesn't work that way on a cube. So you'd need at least 2-prims at a 90-degree angle to each other to add in the floor and ceiling (make 1 of them slightly thinner so it hides inside the other and you don't get that flicker effect of two objects in the same space).

You can also put everything into a rezzbox - but people will focus on griefing you if you do under the belief that you create lag. Being in a rezzbox will mean the entire thing will only use 1 prim, and it will get de-rezzed and rezzed every minute or two (in a staged manner so you won't fall through the floor according to the advertising on those things).
- People still think they create a lot of lag, but if you go to the store "1-prim things" you will find the lag in that Sim rather low despite there being a few hundred rezzboxes lying around rezzing several thousands of prims every minute.
(take a lagmeter with you if you want).
- But superstition drives the hate here, and people will grief rezzbox users on the belief that they are lag-engines whether or not it is true (and it might be true with some rezzboxes - there are many different makers of them all advertising different features).

Still, at 3000m up you and your rezzboxed skybox might never be noticed if you're only showing up as 1 prim on the about land. And if you find a box that doesn't make lag, they'll never have reason to seek you out even if your box is rezzing a 500-prim skybox...

I picked up a two story 10 prim (no furniture included) skybox awhile back at Orxy Temple's store...and she may have it online as well...for either 1L or 0L iirc.

Until I decide what I want to do as far as more land purchase (i currently have a (512), staying premium or going basic etc., this is a great home for the prim count and price. (Actually I think it's 8 prims without the teleporters.)

It has a front door and can be used on ground as well. I just always take things up high. Includes a list of who can and can't open the door, lockable door, etc. Quite a nice item for at least temporarily or, as in the OPs case, a nice low-prim build to put in a sandbox that won't create much attention on the prims and can still have friends over. OH...also includes varies tints to the windows as well for privacy

I would upgrade to a premium account, but I'm disabled and therefore unable to afford the monthly fees. Luckily I can afford to buy a few Lindens every so often.

Never underestimate the benefits of remaining homeless. You get out more often and meet more people.

sure. but what are the benefits?

Umm, you get plenty of exercise when you're squatting somewhere and the owner shows up and chases you out with a stick....?

Okay, maybe "benefits" isn't the right word. But still, you meet more people and they aren't ALL carrying sticks, y'know.

Oh no! The CLEANERS!

I'm sorry but I find the idea of squatting - annoying - Personaly I have no need for a sand box since i do hold land - but the folks that put out sandboxes generally are doing it to help builders and a place to open shopping boxes- I don't think the OP is intentionally being greedy but hey you know what? We are paying for our spaces - and the folks hosting sandboxes- yeah - they r paying too - i dont think we shd be encouragin her to have a home when she isnt buying into havin one.

To the OP-I am thinking pehaps u shd try renting a space -