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Age Verification Question

Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 02:50
First, i hope this is in the right place!

Ok, here's the thing. I want to get age verified. Being irish, the verification system isn't working for me, so i have to do it manually. That would be fine...but for a few problems.

1) I am currently living in germany, but only until the end of july. i need to be verified as living in ireland though, as i will be using an irish passport. is this ok?

2) i am a student (21) who either lives with her parents, or lives in accomodation where i dont recieve utility bills...which i need. the only bill i have that could be classed as a utility one is one relating to my internet connection. however this is a german bill, so it's at odd with wanting to be verified as being in ireland. does this matter?

the only other thing i COULD do...would be to send off a copy of my birth cert...but that is also a problem...its BRITISH!

(i know...i have no chance, right? lol)

can anyone please advise me? it would be much appreciated!
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06-14-2009 02:55
If you have a credit card - and I presume you do, or could get one pretty easily - put payment information on file before they work out that it doesn't actually verify your age.

Pep (It's soooooooo much easier.)

PS The Lindens are still equating account verification with age verification, as I understand it, so make the most of their confusion.
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06-14-2009 03:01
You could try the information here:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/SL_Verification_(Age_%26_Payment)_-_Issues_and_Information

or as Pep says, get a CC, a prepaid one if needs be and use that by putting PIOF.
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 03:16
@ Pep: right...i HAVE a cc...but its connected to my fathers account, so i cant buy anything with out him knowing (my parents wanted to teach me financial resposibility). and...they have refused to let me pay anything to SL! i have asked them about it...i'm surprised they didnt make me shut down my basic account! lol

i could look into prepaid ccs al right. they are not something i'm familiar with, tbh.

@ Lord: thanks for the link. will have a look now!
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06-14-2009 03:22
From: Shiva Draconia
i could look into prepaid ccs al right. they are not something i'm familiar with, tbh.


And they are not available in Germany.
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06-14-2009 03:26
A possible workaround (caveat: I've not tried this, but it should be feasible) is to create a new bank account that you just deposit small amounts of money into as and when you need it. Then, link that bank account to a Paypal account, and link that Paypal account to your SL account, which would verify you once used to purchase L$.

Many banks will allow you to open a new basic account online. If you already have a bank account that you manage online, check their website to see if they have that kind of account available. It would be much easier to transfer money from one main account to your special SL account if they're both from the same bank. You don't need any fancy bells and whistles, no debit cards or overdrafts; just a simple basic account that you can deposit into and link to Paypal.
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06-14-2009 03:31
From: Shiva Draconia
@ Pep: right...i HAVE a cc...but its connected to my fathers account, so i cant buy anything with out him knowing (my parents wanted to teach me financial resposibility). and...they have refused to let me pay anything to SL! i have asked them about it...i'm surprised they didnt make me shut down my basic account! lol

i could look into prepaid ccs al right. they are not something i'm familiar with, tbh.

@ Lord: thanks for the link. will have a look now!


The following is a German Bank that issues the wirecard. Its a virtual prepaid CC (They do a plastic one for a fee, but for SL the virtual one is good) and we have used one for SL. Its cheap and effective and allows top ups from standard bank accounts, we top it up from our Dutch Bank account.

It is safe as far as we are concerned, we have had no problems with them and customer service is excellent.

https://www.wirecard.com/wirecard/

HTH
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 03:32
jsut my luck!

if there was one country i would have thought they wouldn't be available in...it'd be ireland...and i KNOW you can get a form of prepaid CC there...i jsut never used it..

ok...i've looked at the link Lord gave me (thanks) and have a couple of more questions

(yeah, i know, questions, questions...sorry, but i want to try and veryfiy myself)

i joined on january 9th of this year...was it possible to age verify yourself back around then without using the current system? (i'm asking this because i can get into some adult places no problem, even with age verify restrictions, but not others)

if you put in cc info...as in payment info on file but not used...does the cc holder know about it? and does anything get charged to the cc?

i REALLY apreciate everyones answers!
thank you all!
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06-14-2009 03:36
From: Novis Dyrssen
And they are not available in Germany.


https://www.wirecard.com/wirecard/

From: someone
Wirecard is a product of Wirecard Bank AG.

Wirecard Bank AG is a bank headquartered in Germany. It is regulated by the German Financial Supervisory Authority (BaFin).

Wirecard Bank AG is furthermore a member of the credit card associations MasterCard, VISA, and JCB and is licensed to issue credit cards.

Wirecard Bank AG is a subsidiary of Wirecard AG – one of the worldwide leading providers of payment services and risk management solutions. Wirecard AG is listed in the TecDax of the German stock exchange in Frankfurt (ISIN DE0007472060, IGP).


They offer virtual and plastic prepaid CC
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 03:37
@ Skell and Lord:

Thank you both for those solutions...they are not ones i would have ever thought of! i tried to link to my irish bank account (i'm actually moving home at the end of july) but paypal doesnt accept my mastercard number...there is one digit too many... silly irish!

if nothing shows up on a cc holders account/bill, i may try usuing my fathers cc...hopefully that will work!
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06-14-2009 03:42
From: Shiva Draconia
@ Skell and Lord:

Thank you both for those solutions...they are not ones i would have ever thought of! i tried to link to my irish bank account (i'm actually moving home at the end of july) but paypal doesnt accept my mastercard number...there is one digit too many... silly irish!

if nothing shows up on a cc holders account/bill, i may try usuing my fathers cc...hopefully that will work!


When you just put a CC on file IIRC it doesn't bill the card, just checks it is valid, its so long since I tried it lol
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Novis Dyrssen
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06-14-2009 03:43
From: Lord Sullivan
They offer virtual and plastic prepaid CC


Interesting, obviously I have never heard of them before. ;) *bookmarks page*

I was thinking about the kind of prepaid card for sale in stores our US friends regularly talk about because that's a kind of service that's not available here.
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06-14-2009 03:47
From: Shiva Draconia
@ Skell and Lord:

Thank you both for those solutions...they are not ones i would have ever thought of! i tried to link to my irish bank account (i'm actually moving home at the end of july) but paypal doesnt accept my mastercard number...there is one digit too many... silly irish!

if nothing shows up on a cc holders account/bill, i may try usuing my fathers cc...hopefully that will work!
Try getting an account with a global bank, such as HSBC. They have an instant access savings account that comes without an overdraft but you can pay in and withdraw whenever you like, at any HSBC branch (which you should have in Ireland) and you may be able to set up online transfers from your Irish bank to an HSBC account.

Also, I'm not sure, but Linden Lab *might* try to charge the card used a small 'test' amount of $1, to ensure its validity. I can't be certain of this, but hopefully someone more knowledgable about that side of things will be able to enlighten you.
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 03:48
From: Lord Sullivan
When you just put a CC on file IIRC it doesn't bill the card, just checks it is valid, its so long since I tried it lol



that sounds good! though...since its on my fathers account...i'll end up coming across as a 40-something year old man on the system...as opposed to a 21 year old girl! lol

sorry, that jsut struck me as funny!

well, i'm having a look at wired, and if i dont have to actually pay any money, i'll go with that. i'm in the process of checkin it out now!

if i do have to put money into it, or link it to a bank account...i'll jsut use the cc!
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06-14-2009 03:51
From: Novis Dyrssen
Interesting, obviously I have never heard of them before. ;) *bookmarks page*

I was thinking about the kind of prepaid card for sale in stores our US friends regularly talk about because that's a kind of service that's not available here.


We have used wirecard for a while (as I hate using my main CC online) and found them by accident. They are very good and helpful with Customer service and they have a list of countries where they have banks located that you can top up the card from. Same here in Holland we have only the wally card which IIRC you can buy over the counter at some places.

I wouldn't personally go for the plastic wirecard as you have to pay a monthly fee but the virtual on eyou only pay a transaction fee so its good for SL, it can also be managed completely online as well and the couple of times we used the customer service, they were helpful, polite and sorted the problem out fast, and being regulated by the German Financial Authorities, instills a confidence in them :)
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Novis Dyrssen
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06-14-2009 03:51
From: Shiva Draconia
i'll end up coming across as a 40-something year old man on the system...as opposed to a 21 year old girl! lol


You'll be just like any SL regular then. :D
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06-14-2009 03:53
From: Lord Sullivan
it can also be managed completely online as well and the couple of times we used the customer service, they were helpful, polite and sorted the problem out fast, and being regulated by the German Financial Authorities, instills a confidence in them :)


That sounds all very good. Thanks for that, will check it out definitely, if only just for referencing it to friends. :)
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 03:56
From: Novis Dyrssen
You'll be just like any SL regular then. :D


yeah...but if they find pictures of me online...they'll be like, WTF????

/me laughs


well, the wirecard accuont is set up...now to get it accepted by SL!
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06-14-2009 04:04
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That sounds all very good. Thanks for that, will check it out definitely, if only just for referencing it to friends. :)


Thats what I do with them as they are good for most countries :)
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 04:08
right...the wirecard account isnt working for me...though thats cause i've no money in there!

i'm trying to transfer money from an irish account but canst seem to do it...i have no routing number. what is that?

is the routing number the same as the bank sort code?
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06-14-2009 04:17
From: Shiva Draconia
right...the wirecard account isnt working for me...though thats cause i've no money in there!

i'm trying to transfer money from an irish account but canst seem to do it...i have no routing number. what is that?

is the routing number the same as the bank sort code?


There is a pdf in the help/instruction area that gives exact details of how to do the transfer. I do not know how Irish banks work but we have an IBAN and swift number for Dutch accounts. Check with your bank and they will be able to help. Also Wirecard has bank branches in many countries so you treat the transfer as a Local bank transfer, using your wirecard number as the reference number. Give the helpline a call or email them they will help on that.
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 04:23
/me face palms

i'm not set up for online banking with my irish account! and that in itself will take a couple of weeks to sort, cause i'm abroad!

stupid stupid stupid stupid irish banks!

/me sighs...looks like age verification might be off the cards, unless LL DONT charge for registering a cc!

will look into that now!
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06-14-2009 04:31
From: Shiva Draconia
/me face palms

i'm not set up for online banking with my irish account! and that in itself will take a couple of weeks to sort, cause i'm abroad!

stupid stupid stupid stupid irish banks!

/me sighs...looks like age verification might be off the cards, unless LL DONT charge for registering a cc!

will look into that now!


Well you could always use Elvis or Tupac as shown on the verification page on the SLapt.me wiki I know several Elvis's and a few Tupacs ;) and as stated on the page it is not illegal and not breaking any LL rules.

IIRC though LL does not charge the CC if you are setting up PIOF but maybe someone can confirm this for you as I am not 100% sure
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06-14-2009 04:33
From: Shiva Draconia

i joined on january 9th of this year...was it possible to age verify yourself back around then without using the current system?
THe new system isn't in place yet, and they're not replacing the old system with the new system, they're running them in parallel. Payment information isn't age verification, it's "account verification". Adult land allows either age or account verified users, but locations that require age verification won't magically start accepting account verification.

Why, yes, I agree, it does sound over-complicated and poorly thought out. Thank you for noticing. :D
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Shiva Draconia
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06-14-2009 04:41
From: Lord Sullivan
Well you could always use Elvis or Tupac as shown on the verification page on the SLapt.me wiki I know several Elvis's and a few Tupacs ;) and as stated on the page it is not illegal and not breaking any LL rules.

IIRC though LL does not charge the CC if you are setting up PIOF but maybe someone can confirm this for you as I am not 100% sure



meh...being mistaken as a dead star wont be much different than being mistakwn for my father, i suppose! haha!

and i looked up the knowledge base on PIOF...it puts a charge of 1$ on your statement, even though they dont actually charg you anything...talk about messed up!

if that shows on my fathers statement...i'll probably be forced to leave SL for good...so thats not really a viable solution for me! (thank you, LL)

@ Argent: this system is sooooooooooooooooooooo messed up, its not even funny! i mean, i cant age verify easily online...because i'm in europe, not the states...so unfair!

i've managed to (finally) link my bank account to my paypal account...but still no luck with the mastercard that i have for it...the number is too long for it to recognise...

this HAS to be a global conspiracy!!!
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