Do all the Event places stink?

I have been exploring a bit.
I must confess the places I have tried to find off and on really are pretty bad, laggy,
full of zombies or no one is there.
The one's that there is some interaction, it pretty much sucks.
This has been like this for years for me.
For those of you who are Gay, Lesbian or Transgendered is there any decent places to hang out that are friendly, not lets do it or buy something or someone places?
Everything okay when I want to make things but when I need some fun distractions that don't involve where I live and not feeling like making things I can't find any place.
There is one place but when I am wanting to do things socially there is no one around.

hi Spark,
i'm not so sure if i understand your explanation in this thread...but i've meet some bad people in certain places which i chose not to go back to. i find camping places and shopping centers are better places for making new friends though that may not always be true. anyway if you think a place/person is bad you can just go to somewhere else, playing this game should be way easier than playing real life.
cheers (^_-)

It isn't bad people. I could deal with rotten people. SL is as dead as it was when I was in beta in 2003 even with all the people in world.
The good builds are extremely laggy. Some of top places that are suppose to be Event related if there is anyone there its who going to F**K me or full of zombies.
It hasn't changed since I gotten here.
And I have been here whole lot longer then this account was made.
The new search isn't any easier to use.
Everything is always geared towards someone buying something.
Which I understand but if you're going to pay for dancers or greeters they should
actually speak to people.
People throw events and numerous ones I have stopped by no one is there.
Most events are all geared towards commercial shops.
Just doesn't make sense to me.
Does it make sense to anyone else? Am I missing something?
Anyway I am sorry I having I hate everything week.

FD, if you find somewhere worthwhile, please tell me.

Truthfully I haven't.
I have few friends I hang out when I am not feeling inspired to make things and occasionally there are people at the time I want to socialize at the forum hang out.
Majority are straight.
Even transgender or transexual advertised places are all geared towards females.
It wouldn't bother me so much if when I was here I just made things or was learning and wasn't ill in real life with more things to do but it gets me down.
I get certain things here everyone wants a fantasy, everyone wants to make the next linden dollar, easy brainless perverted poseball sex but what about those of us who want something different?
Women are great, I got handful of very close female friends but everything in SL regardless of one's rl gender is geared towards Females.
Having female friends, even brainless poseball sometimes is fun distraction to shop, do perverted poseball sex if in right context but I don't know....
Crappy thing is if you do and can't just do it like a normal guy then you got issues too.
We got tons and tons of places advertised and trust me I have been to majority and they are all dead, zombie and lagged filled with as many prims and scripts and whatever else to create the maximum lag.
Beautiful buildings,etc are great but it sucks if even after 5 fricking years its just zombie filled or empty, or full of immature, illiterate people.
Hey I got 7th grade education and severe handicaps in real life and I am whole lot more intelligent then majority I have met in world.
Not saying all but it gets pretty depressing.

Well tomorrow is Gayday at Carnivale. From noon-4PM SLT. In a brand new SIM, and not a sex bed in sight. It's my annual gay party in an amusement park setting. The location is here...

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Venusian/89/181/38

You can grab some info on the SLPride 2008 events coming up there. Its a week of events tailered to the GLBTQ community. As for places to hang out, Boots Beach is a good one. It's where a lot of people just chat.

Maybe I will check it out if I am up then.
Seattle had pride week this week too in rl.
I didn't go and haven't in few years truthfully I just been to ill and burned out by the shallowness of the scene.
Is SL GLBT scene just as shallow?

It makes perfect sense. Commercial shops have incentive to dirty any automated listing service with off-topic crap. Someone has to create some non-automated, hand-picked lists. I've tried. It takes way too much time for one unpaid person, so it doesn't get done.

LL's showcase or whatever they're calling it is a step in the right direction, but it's way too limited and probably subject to their tendency to promote their pets. And it will probably idle and die once whoever is responsible finds something else they'd rather do.

I notice even personal section of search its all geared to business not one just regular person actually advertising for non-commercial purposes except for few.
I understand they can't regulate that.
I understand people want to make money to pay for things.
It just bugs me sometimes.
I have actually I thought about quit making things which up to until recently was just for fun, I don't make much doing it, I don't really expect too either and leaving but few friends that I am extremely close too I would miss.

Sturgeon's Law: "Ninety percent of everything is crap."

There is a general problem with Event Search: despite the truly scary words to which one must agree when posting an Event, there's just no apparent enforcement. One eventually gets reasonably adept at filtering out the worst of the noise, but very often there's just nothing left that passes the filter. And I think that's because the folks who run good Events just don't even bother to post them anymore, knowing they'll be buried in all the noise.

As for clubs, I kinda think they'll exceed the 90% rule, just due to the economics of running a club. In a long-running thread, the economics of Live Music Events was discussed, and it's even more dismal than one might expect. But even on-the-cheap DJ/host/dancer clubs have ongoing costs to recover, and the revenue sources are limited: tipjars and escorts, really (and maybe some "gaming devices" wink-wink-nudge-nudge). So the focus will be on that which generates tips, or seduces customers to the escorts, in hopes of prying a few L$s from their avatars' tight little fists.

Under those circumstances, one wouldn't expect too much from the average club's clientele.

Is it just as shallow? Well I don't know what you are comparing it to. It's as shallow as any other night club inworld I suppose. But there's more to do there besides dance. It's on I think 4 sims and has quite a few community based events and builds as well. There have been things like historical expos, reproductions of the AIDS quilt, various memorials, I ran a 15 artist show 2 years back. So I suppose if you go expecting to dance then, yes it would be shallow. If you go and look at the various exhibitions, then I wouldn't think so. But if you give the power to a gay man to look anyway he chooses, then shallowness will always insue.

I have been to few of the escort places and I wouldn't get hard...but perhaps I am odd.
They are joke. I would lose any interesting just trying to figure out who was available.
I guess it must be working for someone though.

That cool that there are stuff like that in world.
I guess I have been living under rock.
I tend to keep to myself.
When I go out everything seems so dead.
I guess great part of SL is we can always look like idea of what we consider is attractive at any given moment, never go bald or have bad hair day unless tping dislodges our hair or makes us bald, or worry about STDs...

FD,

Two places I suggest you check on..

- Mission Beach (sim)
- Fire Island (sim)

Pretty diverse crowd in both places, and although I'm not officially endorsing either of them, I do suggest that you take a look.

I have been to Fire Island it was ghost town.
It had great buildings,
Not sure about the other one
I found a couple incredibly beautiful places with incredible builds, next to water, but I don't know it seemed dead.
Maybe it just me.

Fire Island has its uptimes and downtimes. Every Sunday at 4pm SLT, you will find people at the dance floor with DJ Wesley Spengler spinning live.. so you might pop in at that time.. if you join the group, there are announcements about special events.. It may end up not being your cup of tea, but there is definately some positive social engagement that doesn't revolve around sex, nightclubs or commerce..

I just realized after re-losing my virginity I just don't do casual sex well, I don't do anything casual well be it n SL or rl especially when it comes to sexuality. Yet sometimes it is nice to have more male friends, I just got to watch it. I get too emotional.
I have always been odd ball in that area when it comes to being gay and around men.
I am checking out Mission Beach.
I was briefly a member of Fire island few years back.

Fire Island was transitioned to new ownership a year or so ago. It's a different place. Some old timers, lots of new faces. It would be pointless to compare the old with the new, as it's an apples/oranges thing. As for Mission Beach, I admit that I don't hang out there very often, but I will say that both Shawn and Boots are very gracious and kind, and it has been a pleasure to know them, and call them friends.

yeah I was briefly met Boots and Shawn but then I started feeling too emo had to go.
I think the problem is just me and I tend to keep to myself and few close friends in world.
Thanks it was nice beach but they kept going on about love and age verifying...
Grr anyway.

You know FD you are a highly creative person and if you feel this way, others probably do too. Is there something you could set up that is more what you are looking for? Sort of a "build it and they will come" thing?

Maybe do an event like a discussion on Being Virtually Gay? That way you could meet some new folks and have a discussion too. Or "Drama: How to Do It and When a Relationship Needs it"

Or do a One Person Play on themes you like? "The Grumpy Guy Rants! That would be a hoot!

Your discontent may be a way of telling yourself you need to create whats missing.

I know I spew and do grumpy drama well but I can also laugh at myself about it.
I realize all the problems I have it's my responsibility but sometimes I am have my drama queen moments some more then others because I am human.
I just never been one of those rugged stoic guys.
I have thought about at different times over years starting Creative People's group.
Being really creative, full of ideas can be very stressful sometimes even more so here in SL sometimes with all the things that go wrong but just not sure how.
Yeah I tend to channel my stress and emo fits with my art but even sometimes doodling a flower just doesn't do it.
I am not sure if there is a whole lot demand for support group for virtual queers or gay folks, or creative queens support group truthfully.
And if I put advertisement in who knows if SL going to lose it. In my case it usually gets lost in the data base.
I got the land and stuff but just not really skilled with finding people, etc that probably why business also rarely makes very much. I just not very good at networking and promoting anything even if it was free.
Most I ever earned in one month is 7k and that is rare because I am just not very comfortable being around strangers be it online or in world but weird thing I do find it easier to talk to people in forums or in blog. If that makes any sense.
I wonder if there are others in same boat?
I have few content creator friends who are big time loners too, we occasionally talk but they don't get emotionally like I do about things.

I can only talk about what I know - and I do know the Caledon community has tons of gay / transgender and so forth. From regular visitors to the landed to some of the estate managers.

We aren't a gay or straight community per se; it's just that nobody is really worried about it.

I can't believe we are a rarity; our focus is most definitely not sexual ("No sex please, we're Caledonian" and there isn't one hangout - it's more a scattering of events and things depending what you feel like going to.

I have friends whose avatars are gender A when their typist's physical appearance is gender B and just live that way - and choose not to tell most people. Nobody is fooling anyone with relationships, it's simply a matter of just being comfortable in their own skin.

Majority of time gender and sexuality especially with closest friends and myself is a just non-issue.
Those closest to me just don't judge people in those ways.
But there are moments and periods of times it does become issue, being transexual/ multigendered guy sometimes be it flesh or pixel wise my skin feels funny and not in haha way....if that makes any sense?
I am very honest person, some things of course I don't discuss with people especially strangers but hardest part of rl world in community was I am different and I had to hide it.
And it takes lot of work to do something like that and I am not interested in doing it sl.
Some might thats ok, some might thing I am freak and that is okay too.
But if I start dating someone in sl and they find out there probably going to be strong chance if they know they won't want to be with me once they get to know more about me and that just happen recently and it hurt.

Camping places are the worst places to meet people because more often than not, the people are just zombies. They are usually all away from the keyboard. I've run into many and tried to engage them in conversation and not been able to garner a single response.

I hate going to clubs where nobody greets newcomers. If I'm not greeted within 30 seconds after I show up and say Hi, I leave.

Last night, someone showed up at the club where I usually work and there was a newbie dancing alone. The only person who talked to her at all was me. I was pretty irritated because there were over a dozen people at the club and there was no excuse not to at least greet the person. She left, but continued to IM me and I convinced her to give the place another chance when I was DJing there tonight. I don't try to pack the club with strangers for the sake of making huge tips and stacking the numbers. I pack the club with people I know and like, and those I know will actually try to make friends with anyone who walks through the door.

All I can say is don't give up. Yes, there are a lot of places out there that ignore you, but there are places where you can make a lot of friends easily.

It really looks bad to have a club or resort filled with entire several sims filled with people and everyone is zombified.
Or most they shout, say or grunt is few words and usually vulgar ones.
Or constantly be asking for tips.
I wouldn't spend my money there.
Yet I did make one of the closest friends I have today from camping when FD was new.
That place though was rare, people talked and interacted with each other and there was more then just dancing and gambling. It has changed it isn't the same now.