Riback, a place a adfarmer can call his own

That's how it was a few months ago, with only rare exceptions. But now almost every new sim gets adfarmed (with or without roads), and even every little "flat green mature" 512 in the old western continents is up for grabs, too.

If one hasn't yet visited the Riback site mentioned in the opening post of this thread, it's instructive about how this thing is morphing into something much more devastating than ugliness on the side of the road.

As for "freedoms," yeah, well, in RL, I'm kinda glad my neighbor doesn't have the freedom to dump benzene in the brook running through his land--glad enough to forfeit my freedom to dump trichloroethylene in the brook when it runs through mine.

Order is not tyranny. Tyranny is ignoring the will of the people, which is where we are now.

If you give them attention, they keep doing it.

Ignore them.

Do not give into them.

Let them have their fun.

Land is finite.

...just like their wallets.

Too much land and no profit is bad.

Nothing in SL is permanent.

That's a great-sounding idea, but it doesn't work too well in practice. You don't have the freedom to kill anyone, or show hate toward anyone in SL, or put up "objectionable" things in PG areas, or run a casino. Complete freedom already does not exist. It couldn't; that would just suck, and no one would want to live in here. And thank the adfarmers when the freedom to extort and antagonize your neighbor gets taken away.

In RL or SL, we could have much more freedom if there weren't so many people out there determined to abuse it.

One thing to make note of is the percentage of active residents who ever visit this forum. I am pretty sure it's incredibly small. So I don't think all this adfarm talk is going to put anyone off the mainland. I don't think it's going to do much to rid SL of adfarms either...

But in case someone is on the fence, TP to Carlisle and have a look around there and the surrounding sims. Just one example of purty ad-free mainland.

Uhoh Raymond, I feel a target was just set

LOL. They are not that evil. Besides, nothing in Carlisle is for sale.

There's a huge difference between "stuff you don't like" and some crappy adfarm that spoils the view and/or devalues your land.

I don't like a great deal of what people do with their land either, but I let it go - unless it clearly breaks the rules.

Yeah but you don't make anything off the $200/m ones they sell..........

Tensions are very high and the horse is so dead that it's been reincarnated enough times to leave this plane of existence.

Is all this repetition and hostility necessary? Can't you go to Samurai Island and beat each other senseless with a bokken or something? Kidding...

I realize I don't have to read all these posts, and I don't after a certain point -- but I do like to keep abreast of what's going on. The information always starts out good and then the threads devolve into the same old same old.

What I really want to say is that one can attract more respectful considerations without some of the vitriol I've seen here in the past few weeks regarding Mainland vs Estate and Ad Cutters vs Land Owners vs Crappy Builders vs LL vs...

Deep breaths. Smile.

Peace.

... vs Lucrezia Lamont!

j/k

coco

LOL... that's good. *laughs*

Wouldn't something you don't like, by definition spoil the view?
As for devaluing land. no land is ever worth more than someone will pay for it. If you want to look at what has killed land prices, I can point you to the gambling ban and the massive dump of land by LL last fall.

Did LL break the rules with these two massive land devaluing measures?

My thoughts exactly.

Theoretically, I guess, but there is a very big difference between something you just don't like (you don't like the style, it clashes with your design, it's a bit tall, the colours are wrong, etc etc) and some fugly spinning cubes with adverts on them purposely put in a place to cause maximum disruption, together with the extortion potential of the inflated prices that are there just for the sole purpose of getting money out of you to remove that blight.

After all, if they were *genuine* ad spots... presumably the person bought them and is using them becuase they are in a high traffic area, by a road or otherwise fairly visible, and have some form of perceived value to the owner - not something just bought to be sold on again.

None of those things are happening at the moment. I make that 0 violations then.

What, because the grid is down? Well, yes, I suppose so.

That too. But also the fact that merely having something ugly on your land is not a violation of the community standards either.

You must be thinking of something else. We're talking about ad farms.

It could be. I'm not sure I have the desire to go and look at another ad farm, though. I've seen quite a few in my time.

If you go back near the end of the archives , theres a very interesting thread about Mature land and porn.

People were not even sure it would be allowed.

Also the infamous Zoey Jade, latter day anti-sex campaigner had her shop removed because it was a giant flesh colored penis building (on mature land)

1) I want to hear the story of Zoey Jade, please. Anti sex campaigner with a giant fleshy penis build? that has the makings of a fine SL Story.

2) The distinction that Chris and Broc are arguing over appears, IMHO to be intent. Someone does an ugly build because they suck at building or they have no taste or they just like ugly stuff vs. someone who is intent on disrupting your experience, ruining your land value and generally making you miserable so that you will give in and buy their land at an inflated value. There's a difference in intent there. Unfortunately, it's difficult to determine where to draw the line in some cases. Some are black and white, but the devil lives in the gray areas in the middle, and LL doesn't want the responsibility for teasing him out. I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to either.

3) I challenge anyone and everyone to a bokken battle of the ages. Lucrezia first. It sounds like fun.

/me steps into the arena, carefully placing each foot in front of him, Bokken held high, prepared to attack at the slightest provocation. Raising one hand and curling a finger, gesturing towards his first opponent, he mutters in a hoarse whisper, "Bring it".

Anyone know how many mainland sims that don't have adplots?

Mooaleo did not have any last time I looked around... but I have not looked lately.

.d

a survey?

i own land on isabella on heterocera. a linden road cuts off the southeast corner. no adfarms on isabella per se ... but adfarms on that road on neighboring sims.

i also own land on yamma yamma (very southern-most part of the mainland). no adfarms on it or any of the surrounding sims as far as i can see. i think the whole extended area is adfarm-free.

hope i didn't jinx THAT.

My, only more or less upto date, database says 2120 out of 3876 sims contains at least one 16.