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Riback, a place a adfarmer can call his own

Jackson Rickenbacker
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02-11-2008 13:42
I teleported to Riback looking at a 4096 plot, I must say its the most henious blantant smack in the face any adfarmer could do, Im almost laughing except i know someone paid good money for the sim...

My qualifying question is, will this be the last straw for LL or will they have another few months of meetings about it?

heres the SLURL
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Riback/181/156/108
poopmaster Oh
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02-11-2008 14:06
You can put what you want on land you own.

Unless your are a persistent vegetative vegetable living in a condition of second life with severe brain damage in a coma that has progressed to a state of wakefulness without detectable awareness.

end of discussion.
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02-11-2008 14:11
From: poopmaster Oh
You can put what you want on land you own.

end of discussion.


Wrong.

You can only put what you want on land you own *as long as it remains within the Community Standards*.

Try building a replica of Colditz and filling it with nazi symbols and propaganda... and see how long you last. Do the same, but use child porn images instead... byebye.

We've already ascertained in another thread that anything publicly visible - regardless of whether it's an M or PG region - must be 'broadly acceptable' - so a 20m high image of a naked individual on the outside of your building is reportable.

A large portion of what goes on inside SL is simply only there because nobody has reported it yet.
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02-11-2008 14:14
From: Broccoli Curry

A large portion of what goes on inside SL is simply only there because nobody has reported it yet.



I am sure you are doing your part to remedy that.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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02-11-2008 14:17
From: poopmaster Oh
You can put what you want on land you own.

end of discussion.


Small logic there

Community Standards http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php
1 Intolerance- diminish the Second Life community as whole
2 Harassment-Communicating or behaving in a manner which is offensively coarse
6 Disturbing the Peace-repeated transmission of undesired advertising content, intentionally slow server performance or inhibit another Resident's ability to enjoy Second Life are examples of Disturbing the Peace.

That pretty much sums it up, 3 violations in just the Community standards
Elanthius Flagstaff
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02-11-2008 14:17
It makes me sad to see all these threads dissing on the mainland. Obviously I love the mainland since I spend 100% of my time there but regardless of my bias the mainland is full of beautiful places. One day I'll shake off my natural lethargy and post a big long thread full of awesome snapshots and sights from around the grid.

These crappy adfarms and ugliness actually represent a pretty small percentage of the total mainland.
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Broccoli Curry
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02-11-2008 14:17
From: Chris Norse
I am sure you are doing your part to remedy that.


It is everyone's responsibility.

If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. Doing nothing makes you part of the problem.

There is little we as individuals can do to remove this kind of crap from the landscape ... except notify those who can.
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poopmaster Oh
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02-11-2008 14:23
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Small logic there

Community Standards http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php
1 Intolerance- diminish the Second Life community as whole
2 Harassment-Communicating or behaving in a manner which is offensively coarse
6 Disturbing the Peace-repeated transmission of undesired advertising content, intentionally slow server performance or inhibit another Resident's ability to enjoy Second Life are examples of Disturbing the Peace.

That pretty much sums it up, 3 violations in just the Community standards



An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

A concern troll is a pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.[10]





pretty much sums it up, nice work :)
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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02-11-2008 14:25
From: poopmaster Oh
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]

A concern troll is a pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group.[10]





pretty much sums it up, nice work :)


I wouldnt say copy/pasting Community Standards are offtopic,
Nice spin though!
and I hardly think anyone needs to be swayed, thats just funny, your a comedian!
Broccoli Curry
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02-11-2008 14:29
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
I wouldnt say copy/pasting Community Standards are offtopic,
Nice spin though!
and I hardly think anyone needs to be swayed, thats just funny, your a comedian!


What do you expect though from a member of the 'public landbot project', which presumably relies on these lovely little 16sqm plots that are oh so easily abused in so many ways, that something getting rid of ad farms may well get in the way of too?

I have yet to see a "bot" that actually benefits the average SL player. Most seem to only line the pockets of the bot runners, or attempt to break the rules in some form or another.
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02-11-2008 14:34
From: Broccoli Curry
It is everyone's responsibility.

If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. Doing nothing makes you part of the problem.

There is little we as individuals can do to remove this kind of crap from the landscape ... except notify those who can.


No, it is Linden Labs responsibility. If they want to pay me, fine I might consider being a cop. But on second thought, I could care less what someone else does on the property they own. So I would turn them down if they offered the paid position.
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Broccoli Curry
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02-11-2008 14:37
From: Chris Norse
No, it is Linden Labs responsibility. If they want to pay me, fine I might consider being a cop. But on second thought, I could care less what someone else does on the property they own. So I would turn them down if they offered the paid position.


You're exercising your right to choose.

So am I.

I don't see a problem. I'm not stopping you doing what you want, so there's no reason for you to be against me doing what I want.

Maybe you couldn't care less what other people do on their property - although I'm quite sure that if a new neighbour of yours started doing something that infringed on your enjoyment of your property, I'm sure you'd feel very different about the situtation.

Whilst browsing around earlier, I found a "Magic Money" pyramid scam item, which I promptly reported. Why? To help people who don't know any better to not be scammed by something which is listed as a ToS violation in teh first place. I'll see if I can find another thing to do my public duty over before I log out.
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Jackson Rickenbacker
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02-11-2008 14:37
Actually I thought the public landbot prioject was to release code to the general public, inmeans of forcing LL 's hand on having to ban them from SL

Im not shy about saying , get rid of landbots, and get rid of adfarmers, they are both not beneficial to SL as a whole
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02-11-2008 14:43
From: Broccoli Curry


Maybe you couldn't care less what other people do on their property - although I'm quite sure that if a new neighbour of yours started doing something that infringed on your enjoyment of your property, I'm sure you'd feel very different about the situtation.



My neighbors have built stuff I didn't like, but I am enough of a man to ignore it. I live by the principles I espouse. I always espouse freedom above all.
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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02-11-2008 14:45
From: poopmaster Oh
A concern troll is a pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user's sockpuppet claims to hold.


Obviously you're just being deliberately antagonising but this did make me wonder if the reason Jackson keeps posting all these threads is to make sure everyone believes that the mainland is trash so that his private sims will be worth more.
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02-11-2008 14:46
oh no they are hatin on the landbots too now!! zomgz
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02-11-2008 14:50
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
Obviously you're just being deliberately antagonising but this did make me wonder if the reason Jackson keeps posting all these threads is to make sure everyone believes that the mainland is trash so that his private sims will be worth more.


Firstly Elathius, IM not a him, but thas ok, I get it all the time and secondly. Yah, I'll be the first to tell you as far as ethetic looks goes, Estate land beats mainland, hands down, but did I once mention MY estate land? NO, so dont spin this on me Mr. Master of bots. oh by the way i notice you have some adplots over there in Riback, but since your only charging 199 for them, I wouldnt go so far as to call you out, like your trying to do to me


The reason for posting it is simple, we need to keep these big issues ontop of the forums, they important issues to the general resident community, if adplot with all there roptating prims where taken out of the equation, mainland overall would probably run, and look a little better, as far as Estate goes, well estates just are nicer, mine, anyones estate beats the average mainland sim, but it has its own set of risks too Oh yah Im 100% sold out so valuating my land right now isnt the reason
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02-11-2008 14:55
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
Firstly Elathius, IM not a him, but thas ok, I get it all the time and secondly. Yah, I'll be the first to tell you as far as ethetic looks goes, Estate land beats mainland, hands down, but did I once mention MY estate land? NO, so dont spin this on me Mr. Master of bots. oh by the way i notice you have some adplots over there in Riback, but since your only charging 199 for them, I wouldnt go so far as to call you out, like your trying to do to me


Yeah, adcutters think they're evil geniuses when they sell a couple of adplots to me for 8/sqm. Of course I sell them a few days later for 8.5 or whatever so I figure I'm literally taking money out of their pockets and putting it in mine.

Small parcels I buy have no prims, an offer to give the parcel for free to anyone who'll join it to a large parcel and a price that will continue to decrease at a reasonable rate until someone chooses to buy it. I think it's a pretty reasonable system that doesn't hurt anyone.
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02-11-2008 14:58
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
These crappy adfarms and ugliness actually represent a pretty small percentage of the total mainland.


I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I have seen many wonderful examples of what the mainland can be. Unfortunately they are the exception rather than the rule.

I must stress, I am not referring to what I consider ugly builds. Those are none of my business. Hideous, pornographic, extortionist ad farms are an entirely different issue. Having toured throughout the mainland I can assure you they are not a small percentage.
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02-11-2008 15:00
From: Bradley Bracken
I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I have seen many wonderful examples of what the mainland can be. Unfortunately they are the exception rather than the rule.

I must stress, I am not referring to what I consider ugly builds. Those are none of my business. Hideous, pornographic, extortionist ad farms are an entirely different issue. Having toured throughout the mainland I can assure you they are not a small percentage.

Where are the roads? How many sims have linden roads in them? There's the answer as to where the vast majority of ad farms are.
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02-11-2008 15:03
making .5 per meter on a 16 meter plot, geez.. I feel yah Elathius. I dont think its Poopmaster that I se all the time, its those silly black boxes with the smiley faces I see everywhere, I think he does i just to be a thorn in the side. Ruining the auction winners land value though, well that just intolerable, if I was the auction winner I would be making some strong inquiries as to whats being done about it on a company wide scale thas what this post was about, if this purposeful act to devalue land is going be allowed
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02-11-2008 15:05
From: Jackson Rickenbacker
making .5 per meter on a 16 meter plot, geez.. I feel yah Elathius.


Who can turn down free money?
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02-11-2008 15:22
From: Cristalle Karami
Where are the roads? How many sims have linden roads in them? There's the answer as to where the vast majority of ad farms are.


Swarms along the roads, but they are spreading along the countryside as well. I'm guessing that's why your seeing the groundswell of outrage that is currently happening.
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02-11-2008 15:46
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
Obviously you're just being deliberately antagonising but this did make me wonder if the reason Jackson keeps posting all these threads is to make sure everyone believes that the mainland is trash so that his private sims will be worth more.


There are more than enough threads pointing out the pitfalls of estate land. I have a foot in both camps so I'm getting fed up with all of you ;)

The ad farm issue is coming to a head, hopefully that's going to be beneficial for mainland.
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02-11-2008 15:51
From: Chris Norse
My neighbors have built stuff I didn't like, but I am enough of a man to ignore it. I live by the principles I espouse. I always espouse freedom above all.

Well, we disagree here. I would not want to be facing giant, in-your-face porn on my own land. Whether or not it is mature land.

Call it my freedom to enjoy the land that I purchased under the TOS I expect to be upheld.

As opposed to the other person's freedom to do anything he likes, whether or not it is against the TOS.

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