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Which continent is Ballyboo sim on?

Princess Ivory
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09-18-2007 14:02
An NCI welcome center posted a really nice map of the 5 Linden mainland continents, and the order in which there were released. Unfortunately, it is not possible to include the level of detail that would have listed all the sims.

Looking at the map, it appears that the newest two continents are Corsica, with Nautilus directly north of it. When I go inworld and look at the map there, it seems pretty clear to me that Ballyboo is on Nautilus, the further north of the two. But when I fly around looking at land, and click on some land for sale, etc, the description by the seller says it is on the Corsica continent.

Does anyone know for certain if Ballyboo is on Nautilus? Is there any way to tell what date the sim was launched? What about the launch dates for the continent?

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09-18-2007 14:21
Open Map
Enter Ballyboo in the Search box at the top of the window on the right.
Click the Search button to the right of it

The map centres on Ballyboo.
Zoom back the map view.

Ballyboo is in the North of Corsica.
Nautilus is the continent South of Corsica
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09-18-2007 14:32
Just looking at the Land for Sale yellow on the map.
Many of the plots in Ballyboo are horribly overpriced. There seems to be a dirty great farm of 16m plots for sale in the North of the sim.
There's a road running through the sim, so it's bound to be stuffed with ad plots.

Go North to the sims at the Northern edge of Corsica.
7000 for a 512 on the protected edge. 5000 for a 512 in the second rank.
It's a no-brainer.
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Is the map I looked at wrong, then?
09-18-2007 14:37
From: Sling Trebuchet


Ballyboo is in the North of Corsica.
Nautilus is the continent South of Corsica


Well, now I am really confused. The map at the NCI welcome center shows the north continent to be Nautilus, and it was created last (5th). The picture shows large expanses of water throughout the continent. It shows Corsica to be south of Nautilus. It was created 4th. It is mostly solid, and resembles the bottom part of South America.

If you look at the photo in Snapzilla I took, I have the map photo there:
http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=208684&sort=Pictures.PictureID+desc&Name=Princess+Ivory

Is the map wrong?

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09-18-2007 16:14
From: Princess Ivory
Well, now I am really confused. The map at the NCI welcome center shows the north continent to be Nautilus, and it was created last (5th). The picture shows large expanses of water throughout the continent. It shows Corsica to be south of Nautilus. It was created 4th. It is mostly solid, and resembles the bottom part of South America.

If you look at the photo in Snapzilla I took, I have the map photo there:
http://www.sluniverse.com/pics/pic.aspx?id=208684&sort=Pictures.PictureID+desc&Name=Princess+Ivory

Is the map wrong?

Princess Ivory


The map is wrong.
Corsica continent is missing. The continent to the South of Nautilus is mislabelled. Some other threads here may indicate a name for the continent the map incorrectly labels as Corsica. I don't know if the labels on the other continents are correct. I don't really care.

Open Map and zoom right back.
You'll see all of the continents. Corsica (missing from the NCI map) is the top-most one.
Cristalle Karami
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09-18-2007 16:38
The only unnamed continent is the large, complete one in the east. Nautilus is almost complete, and north of the unnamed one. Corsica is still forming, and is north of Nautilus. Corsica is the northeasternmost land mass.
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Princess Ivory
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09-18-2007 18:05
It's too bad that map is wrong. It is the best one I have seen so far, in terms of identifying continents, and showing their relationships to each other. I am surprised it is so hard to get good information, and a good map, from Linden.

The SL History Wiki only addresses the early sims. There is no thorough summary of all the continents (and how many there are), their names, and what sims they contain.

Does anyone know of a good, labeled map? I'd really like to understand this.

So is the consensus that my land in Ballyboo is in Corsica, and Corsica is the northernmost continent? Was it the 5th one created? Is the picture on the map from my earlier post actually show Corsica but have it misnamed Nautilus? Is all of that land to the east Corsica? Is Nautilus even on the map?

Sorry to be a pest, I'd just really like to get a handle on this. I wish the SL History Wiki had better information.

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09-18-2007 18:20
From: Princess Ivory


So is the consensus that my land in Ballyboo is in Corsica, and Corsica is the northernmost continent? Was it the 5th one created?


Yes, but Sling has explained it well enough, being a Corsica resident herself. The northern most one is Corsica. The one below it is Nautilus. Some of the maps floating around are wrong, but those of us who bought land in Corsica know where it is ... :).

If you are looking for an official pronouncement from LL, you'll be waiting a long time. :)
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09-18-2007 18:38
From: Victorria Paine
Yes, but Sling has explained it well enough, being a Corsica resident herself. The northern most one is Corsica. The one below it is Nautilus. Some of the maps floating around are wrong, but those of us who bought land in Corsica know where it is ... :).

If you are looking for an official pronouncement from LL, you'll be waiting a long time. :)


Thanks, Victorria. As a Ballyboo resident, I will consider myself a native Corsican, then. Are the water sims that say "protected" and "maintenance" and are owned by Governor Linden going to remain open oceans, then? There seems to be quite a bit of them, and if I buy land there I'd like to be sure I know what I'm getting.

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09-18-2007 18:42
Paging Carl?

Don't worry, give him the right info and he'll sort it.

Let's be glad he's made the effort.
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09-18-2007 22:12
From: Princess Ivory
It's too bad that map is wrong. It is the best one I have seen so far, in terms of identifying continents, and showing their relationships to each other. I am surprised it is so hard to get good information, and a good map, from Linden.


I'm sorry about the map. I will fix it tomorrow evening.
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09-18-2007 22:42
It's generally the residents of continents themselves who are sure of the names- it's easy to mis-label if you're trying to figure it out from maps. I live in Nautilus (Svavarsson) and happen to know it's the middle of the eastern continents.

As for protected and maintenance waterways- be wary. Corsica is NOT finished yet and pretty much any open sim could be released later as land. Better bets are to the south and the sides- as I believe the new sims are mostly northward.
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09-18-2007 22:51
Okay--maybe this evening (or morning as the case may be). Is this now correct?

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09-18-2007 22:57
Yes!
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09-19-2007 01:20
Excellent map, Carl!

One little thing, though... You've listed "The Mainland" as an alternate name for the old continent (Sansara). Although that might have been a name for it once, it is now VERY misleading to newbies who already have trouble distinguishing between mainland and private estates. Labeling that one continent "the Mainland" implies that the other continents are not mainland.
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09-19-2007 01:38
Just FYI, parts of Sansara are named too. You might be able to find those names scattered about the history wiki.
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09-19-2007 03:45
From: Capella DeCuir
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As for protected and maintenance waterways- be wary. Corsica is NOT finished yet and pretty much any open sim could be released later as land. Better bets are to the south and the sides- as I believe the new sims are mostly northward.


What you see of Corsica in Map appears to be the final North/South extent. New sims will be added to the East. Those will be a large land mass with a mix of protected canals and open water sims along the edges - but with few of the open ocean sims that you see in the current Map.

There is a block of water and island sims in the South that have yet to go to auction. It's not clear how much of the water will be Protected.

There are block of water sims in the South West and the centre which might end up as Protected, or might not. Buy on those boundaries at your peril. It's a gamble.

LL have labelled many sims as Protected. Some of these sims have been named, some have not.
There are some unnamed/Empty sims that look like strong candidates for ending up as protected because of the need to link the waterways.


If someone wants guaranteed access to water in the absence of definitive labelling by LL, then buying along the Protected canals, especially those at the edges of the continent would be a good option. Canals at the edges are the next best thing to Protected sims. One just has to cross a few sim boundaries (!!!!) to get to open ocean :)

I shouldn't take anyone more than 15 minutes to do a tour of the water sims and label/name them. I don't know why LL leaves us all hanging.



NEVER believe a land dealer's description of anything as "Protected". They use the term with the same careless abandon as they use
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09-19-2007 07:06
From: Sling Trebuchet



NEVER believe a land dealer's description of anything as "Protected".


If an ocean sim is owned by Governor Linden, named "Protected," and set to "Maintenance," can one assume it will remain ocean?

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09-19-2007 08:57
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If an ocean sim is owned by Governor Linden, named "Protected," and set to "Maintenance," can one assume it will remain ocean?

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09-19-2007 10:00
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One little thing, though... You've listed "The Mainland" as an alternate name for the old continent (Sansara). Although that might have been a name for it once, it is now VERY misleading to newbies who already have trouble distinguishing between mainland and private estates. Labeling that one continent "the Mainland" implies that the other continents are not mainland.


I thought about that when I was making the map, however, the term "the mainland" is still used enough by people when refering to Sansara, that I think it might be equally confusing not to include it. I may change it to "The Old Mainland". Would that be clearer?
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09-19-2007 10:34
OK, so do I live on Corsica or not.. Yep my land sets right next to that pretty little plot of land on Ballyboo chopped up into 16sm bits and pieces.. and is bordered by the Linden's maintenance road. He did that after I bought my land. /me reaches out her hand and clicks the tintable windows, not worried it will either sit there forever or that guy will give up and go away. *no* I did not pay a fortune for my land, in fact I got one heck of a deal.

The ahmmm guy does have his corner 16sm plots for sale for around $L5000, but the inside ones are much more reasonable but still too dang high. I really don't get that one. The only reason to purchase one of those inner plots would be for the prims. I wouldnt even pay the L$5000 for the 512sm plots that are listed for sale close by.
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09-19-2007 10:36
From: Strife Onizuka
Just FYI, parts of Sansara are named too. You might be able to find those names scattered about the history wiki.


I'm actually planning to follow this map up with a Sansara (and a bit of the Atoll continent) map, showing more detail and historical locations. I think I have most of those names already, from my Advanced Land class at NCI and the map on the second floor of the Academy of Virtual Wizardry in Caledon, but I will make sure to take a look at the Wiki when I get to that map.
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09-19-2007 10:39
From: Kira Cuddihy
The ahmmm guy


I think it's okay to call 16m ad-farm owners "asshole scumbags".

From: Kira Cuddihy
does have his corner 16sm plots for sale for around $L5000, but the inside ones are much more reasonable but still too dang high. I really don't get that one. The only reason to purchase one of those inner plots would be for the prims. I wouldnt even pay the L$5000 for the 512sm plots that are listed for sale close by.


I don't understand why Sansara and Hetrocera Atoll seem to have less of this than the newer continents? Does it have to do with the population demographics? More time for landowners to buy the land griefers out? Do the Lindens just pay more attention?
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09-19-2007 11:01
Carl, I think you should slap "Boomerangia" on Continent #4. Maybe it will stick! :D

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09-19-2007 11:02
I'm still partial to "Black Thursday" :)
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