Why do people complain about SL?
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MoiselleErin Teardrop
Fat p00n!t4r
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04-14-2009 18:52
I mean the residents complaining about SL. Yes there is the akward social aspect but most complaints revolve around graphics...
Things like the feet looking horrid, or the akward movements of the avatars like the hands sinking into the body, etc.
Let me ask you this - 20 years ago if you were able to get on SL and see what the future holds, would you not have been blown away? Back when games like Castlevania were graphically advanced, if you had seen SL, how would you have felt? Sl is something we could not have even imagined back then. Even if someone had said "The thing is, often times the scene takes a while to develop [rez] it would have still been mind-blowing.
Funny how today we not only take these things for grandted but actually complain about them.
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Amaranthim Talon
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04-14-2009 19:00
I am blown away by SL everyday- Almost four years and the love affair with it continues. Ain't nothing like it out there.
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Kokoro Fasching
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04-14-2009 19:00
From: MoiselleErin Teardrop I mean the residents complaining about SL. Yes there is the akward social aspect but most complaints revolve around graphics... Things like the feet looking horrid, or the akward movements of the avatars like the hands sinking into the body, etc. Let me ask you this - 20 years ago if you were able to get on SL and see what the future holds, would you not have been blown away? Back when games like Castlevania were graphically advanced, if you had seen SL, how would you have felt? Sl is something we could not have even imagined back then. Even if someone had said "The thing is, often times the scene takes a while to develop [rez] it would have still been mind-blowing. Funny how today we not only take these things for grandted but actually complain about them. We complain because we care.. and we want LL to know that we care, but do not want them resting on their tushes just because it is mindblowing. As long as we complain, LL knows we are interested, and keeps working on it. If no one complained, we would still be back on version 1.01.
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Ghosty Kips
Elora's Llama
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04-14-2009 19:13
I pay for it. This way I feel like I'm getting something for my money. 
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Weston Graves
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04-14-2009 19:14
Sometimes when SL was acting up I'd jokingly post on the forums I'd just have to go back to playing Wolfenstein 3D (which wasn't even 3D. it was 2 and 1/2 D sort of).
One day I actually did it. Peeee-yeeew! I can't imagine why I ever thought that was fun. Gave me a headache squinting at the pixelated mess. And when the Nazi soldiers spotted you, they'd say "VvvvavvZzzzng!" (Achtung) or "Ffffzzhuffsstavvvvvvvl." (never figured that one out.
Even FarCry a relatively newish game by comparison to Wolfenstein doesn't look any better than SL. I think people complain because they identify more with their avs than they do with an FPS character.
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Isablan Neva
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04-14-2009 19:15
Complaining is an attention seeking behavior. Used carefully, it can help one achieve a means of resolution to a problem. Used poorly, it engenders a response of disdain and mocking.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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04-14-2009 19:16
I asked this same thing awhile back, still dunno why people complain.
Today is my 3 year rezday and I still find much about SL fascinating
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Jack42 Meredith
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04-14-2009 19:19
HAPPY REZ DAY Rhaorth 
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Isablan Neva
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04-14-2009 19:23
Ain't It Awful
"They sat near me on an early morning flight, three smartly dressed 30-something people, sufficiently loud, articulate and interesting for me to pay some attention to their conversation. Managers in a high-tech industry, I figured. Over the next 50 minutes they agreed repeatedly, that they could be vastly more effective if it weren't for their staff, colleagues, senior managers and clients who, in various creative ways stuffed up and impeded their progress. Their senior managers especially. Yes, this was definitely an 'ain't it awful' group. Most organizations have them. They can form anywhere, at any time, at all levels of the hierarchy, in pairs or larger combinations, no matter what the group's original purpose for meeting. The consistent theme is consensus that 'we' could be more successful, happy and achieving if it wasn't for those appalling SOBs and pathetic individuals who get in the way. Wherever 'ain't it awful' groups exist you can bet that certain things are happening in their members' lives and certain conditions exist in their organizations. Self-victimization Imagine three concentric circles describing the various degrees of power and autonomy you have over your situation. Within the central circle is an area for "things over which I have complete autonomy and control"; within the next, "things I have the ability to influence though not control". The outer circle encompasses "things I have no ability to influence or control in any way". 'Ain't it awful' groups concern themselves with things in the outer circle (that they cannot change) and things in the second circle that they could influence but choose not to. They worry and complain about them and set out to involve others in doing likewise, about the same issues. They make themselves miserable while blaming other people for the effects, not understanding or bringing to consciousness their own part in the creation of their problems. It's not that these behaviors waste time: they kill time by spreading distortion, helplessness, anxiety, frustration and hopelessness, rather like a heavy-duty computer virus. The process saps strength and tenacity rather than encouraging these qualities. "
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TundraFire Nightfire
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04-14-2009 19:39
I've never been one to complain about SL or LL. When I've had a problem, LL has fixed it right away, and except for an occasional glitch, SL works pretty good. I'm actually impressed at how well SL continues to work considering it's an evolving world. It is kind of impressive, at least to me, that SL works as well for me living in rural Alaska as it does for people in San Francisco, Europe or Asia.
Of course, I don't complain very much about anything, except when it stays below -40f for a few days.
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Destiny Niles
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04-14-2009 19:44
This question is too easy to answer. Because they need a life 
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Lias Leandros
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04-14-2009 19:50
From: MoiselleErin Teardrop Funny how today we not only take these things for grandted but actually complain about them. Do you think if land in SL became free again would the complaining go away? LL can't charge more than my cable company and not be responsible for service delivery. They market SL as a business platform and need to expect that these people that have invested time and money based on this would become 'upset' when there is bait-and-switch and under-performance. And I think my avatar is perfect. .
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Milla Janick
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04-14-2009 19:58
From: MoiselleErin Teardrop Let me ask you this - 20 years ago Because it's not 20 years ago?
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Jack42 Meredith
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04-14-2009 20:40
land was once free on sl???? can anyone explain how that w0rked ? 
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Bradley Bracken
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04-14-2009 21:37
From: Kokoro Fasching We complain because we care.. and we want LL to know that we care, but do not want them resting on their tushes just because it is mindblowing.
As long as we complain, LL knows we are interested, and keeps working on it.
If no one complained, we would still be back on version 1.01. QFT
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Void Singer
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04-14-2009 22:44
simple: a) we care enough to be upset when things go wrong b) better is becoming available and we want it too! c) mind blowing today, will be ho hum tomorrow d) it is affecting our ability to inovate e) it is affecting our ability to do business f) we have entirely too much free time
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Ovaltine Constantine
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04-14-2009 22:51
Of course SL is amazing, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be better. And shouldn't the goal be to make it better?
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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04-14-2009 23:27
From: Jack42 Meredith HAPPY REZ DAY Rhaorth  thank you! 
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Ghosty Kips
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04-15-2009 00:16
From: Weston Graves One day I actually did it. Peeee-yeeew! I can't imagine why I ever thought that was fun. Gave me a headache squinting at the pixelated mess. Because it was way better than Catacomb 3-D? From: Weston Graves I think people complain because they identify more with their avs than they do with an FPS character. You've obviously never played Duke Nukem. 
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Aeslyn Dae
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04-15-2009 02:18
From: Rhaorth Antonelli Today is my 3 year rezday and I still find much about SL fascinating Happy Rezday.  -- Aes
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Conifer Dada
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04-15-2009 02:18
I rarely complain about SL or the Lindens. Generally I'm happy with my lot. I reserve my criticism for when there really is a problem. For instance I tried to speak up in support of those poor people who claimed they had been wrongfully banned after being the victims of malicious ARs. Second Life is amazing. The graphics are pretty good for such a versatile virtual world - proper shadows would be the icing on the cake for me. Some people (often newbies) seem to think it's the done thing to complain about Linden Lab, as though they are some kind of jailer or opressor. That's just silly! We all get annoying moments in SL when things go wrong or another resident does something anti-social. But, like in real life, it's not always a bed of roses.
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Ralektra Breda
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04-15-2009 04:07
Dissatisfaction is the mother of improvement. (LOL at what I did to that old quote) No matter what we have, there will be parts of it we are not entirely happy with. If we don't complain a little, there would be no reason to advance. I had a boss one time who used to say "You can come to me and complain about anything we do, but when you come, you need to bring an idea about how to make it better". She was smart 
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Jackie Silverfall
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04-15-2009 04:31
Though I'm only a month old I have no complaints other than ugly toes. Yes, there are problems, and yes we should escalate issues and ideas for improvement. I'm paying for Premium, buy stuff with L$ and own 2 parcels on the mainland and am getting great return on my investments just from knowing the people here. I've observed that some people are just happier when they are in a group, complaining and getting head-nodding feedback from their peers. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this, it's just a personality/mindset thing so I just accept it as their way of contributing feedback. If they were seriously complaining, then they'd be gone. Those are the ones that I'm concerned about. Just Happy, Smiling, No Problem, Life is Good Me! Jackie  (makes you want to throw up, doesn't it)
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Pserendipity Daniels
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04-15-2009 04:34
From: Jackie Silverfall (makes you want to throw up, doesn't it) Am I missing a hidden photo of a LOLCAT or something? Pep (Otherwise it is just marketing speak; carry on.)
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Amaranthim Talon
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04-15-2009 05:37
From: Isablan Neva Complaining is an attention seeking behavior. Used carefully, it can help one achieve a means of resolution to a problem. Used poorly, it engenders a response of disdain and mocking. Wise words in any context.
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