Age Verification and Europe

The new system will just be bad/good (from which side you like see it) as the old system. Very clear point is (and many confirmed this) for someone (a minor) who wants to cheat it will be easier to get access to a passport/driving license or SSN of a paremt then to a credit card.

Morwen.

It is not just about fraud, the KYC guidelines are part of the anti-laundering laws in most countries. Identify verification is seen as an important tool in the fight against money laundering.

Voluntary measures often don't last voluntary for long.

LOl I been saying that...no ones been listening.

But at this exact point in time it is still voluntary.

Logging in at all is voluntary.

I will probably get verified, at least on my main account. My building alts don't need it, but then if I've given over a passport number or whatever already then why not. As well hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

I think the policy is messed up and poorly thought out, but it will definitely help them to change the default culture of SL to a "can't do" place from a "can do" place when it comes to personal expression. People often complain that SL is just full of kink sex and gambling. This move will marginalise everyone who engages in those pursuits, all under the handy banner of protecting the children (who shouldn't be even on a PG sim on the main grid) and Philip from angry belgian cops or whatever. It will also, in a handy way, clean up SL, because it can be clear that the perverts are a minority.

Of course with the majority of people in SL being here to get virtually hooked up, there's going to be a lot more room for the rest, real soon, when those people all leave for online sites like RLC or whatever, who only want a credit card, not a cavity search to log on.

It'll ease the minds of big businesses to know the risk of their island landing close to a pony fisting farm on the map has been cut by 75% or whatever though

Absolutely correct.

I may be misinterpreting this but your majority of people here to get virtually hooked up is I think an exageration. I'm certain a vast number of people who delve into the adult recreation here are not doing it exclusively. Many I'm sure (and I said this yesterday somewhere) buy and rent content hence supporting the economy mebbe a little less than those who 'aren't interested in pixel sex' but nevertheless they are as much a part of this wide ranging population as anyone.

See above. I'm ok with zoning. I'm ok with age verification but I'm getting a bit tired of elitism. As I said, I may have misinterpreted and if so I apologise now but I don't see age verification making a huge reduction on population .. despite all the flag-waving soap-boxing going on just now.

Verification for all and let's kill this stigma!

Someone wrote the full social security number can be derived from the final four digits. That is an interesting thought: 4 digits contain 13.29 bits of information. A full 9 digit number contains 29.90 bits of information. Where do the missing 16.61 bits of information come from then?

But since you have no problem verifying I don't see your problem. By restricting unverifieds to PG the stigma of verifying is reduced. You are no longer verifying to simply acces porn or whatever because there would be everything else that was on mature land to consider too.

I also find it funny that the ones worried about be unfairly labelled as looking for porn are also the ones that identify verification soley with that aspect. Tarring with one's own brush?

I agree verification should never have been done away with in the first place. But LL made the bed and now we have to all lie in it (minus pose balls of course! ).

I may have got this back to front but someone said that in some states certain parts of a SSN contain the same number (they represent the state and town or something like that). Whereas that doesn't make much sense to me it must be to a degree true or they would be asking for full numbers, if Integrity can work out the full number from those last four digits then they must be the identifying component.

I've confused myself here!

So if it's to do with money laundering why can't they do a transaction with my bank account like paypal does? I had to show the bank id for opening another savings account with them because of the money laundering issue?

I know you won't know why, I'm just thinking out loud here

Why don't we just take "payment info on file" to mean "verified to be 18+" as it was until 6/6/2006?