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No credit card...what to do

Balthazar Constantine
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06-04-2008 11:40
I dont believe in credit cards....never have never will at all.
That in mind:

I cant pay for a Premium membership unless I have a credit card
OR
Pay Pal

I cant use Pay Pal because you have to fund it with a credit card (Im in czech republic so i dont know how it works elsewhere)

Theres NO information that i can find saying I can pay for a premium account via money order. check, or bank tramsfer.

I used to use pay by cash for Eve and SWG but SL isnt involved with them.

Theres NO pre paid visa/mastercard giftcard for sale int his country

so...because of the worldwide banking self created bias towards people having a credit card i am basically locked out of getting a premium membership?

Or is there some option I havent found yet?

BTW yes I buy everything cash...my new car...cash...plane tickets...cash....only thing i dont is my house which was given to me via inheritence
Macphisto Angelus
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06-04-2008 11:44
CC/PayPal is the only methods I am aware of.

You can call this number to ask billing, unless you only pay cash for phone services too and can't be billed for long distance. ;)

Long-distance (not free)
703-286-6277.
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06-04-2008 11:46
From: Balthazar Constantine
I dont believe in credit cards....never have never will at all.
That in mind:

I cant pay for a Premium membership unless I have a credit card
OR
Pay Pal

I cant use Pay Pal because you have to fund it with a credit card (Im in czech republic so i dont know how it works elsewhere)

Theres NO information that i can find saying I can pay for a premium account via money order. check, or bank tramsfer.

I used to use pay by cash for Eve and SWG but SL isnt involved with them.

Theres NO pre paid visa/mastercard giftcard for sale int his country

so...because of the worldwide banking self created bias towards people having a credit card i am basically locked out of getting a premium membership?

Or is there some option I havent found yet?

BTW yes I buy everything cash...my new car...cash...plane tickets...cash....only thing i dont is my house which was given to me via inheritence


Pay Pal also has verification to a bank account, but your bank has to accept that (and not sure if you can be account verified that way)

One way is to have the lindens turned into credits to pay the fees, but you'd have to make a lot of lindens for that.
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Malia Writer
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06-04-2008 11:48
You could get a pre-paid credit card and use that, it is more like a gift card and you can add money to it only as needed.
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Kitty Barnett
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06-04-2008 11:50
You could always ask your bank if they don't offer a Visa/MasterCard that isn't backed by an actual line of credit but by your account balance.

From: MortVent Charron
One way is to have the lindens turned into credits to pay the fees, but you'd have to make a lot of lindens for that.
You can't sell L$ until you're payment verified.
Ann Launay
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06-04-2008 11:51
From: MortVent Charron
Pay Pal also has verification to a bank account, but your bank has to accept that (and not sure if you can be account verified that way)

I think LL requires you to have both a bank and credit card account tied to your PayPal one.
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MortVent Charron
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06-04-2008 11:51
From: Kitty Barnett
You could always ask your bank if they don't offer a Visa/MasterCard that isn't backed by an actual line of credit but by your account balance.

You can't sell L$ until you're payment verified.


Hmm, I was thinking a few I know were. Oh well

Debit card is the proper term, for what you mention
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MortVent Charron
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06-04-2008 11:52
From: Ann Launay
I think LL requires you to have both a bank and credit card account tied to your PayPal one.



Nope, no credit card on my pay pal. Just account verified
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Balthazar Constantine
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06-04-2008 11:53
You have to have both tied to your pay pal.
And my bills (utilities etc etc) are paid via direct debit from my bank.
Maggie McArdle
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06-04-2008 11:53
if You can get them in the Czech republic, i also second the prepaid credit card idea. you can load it with just the amount of money you need.


ps: did a search and found this site:http://bocal.co.uk/content6.html

hope it helps.
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Ann Launay
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06-04-2008 11:54
From: MortVent Charron
Nope, no credit card on my pay pal. Just account verified

I had to have a bank account tied to mine in order to verify...PayPal's rules, not LL's.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Macphisto Angelus
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06-04-2008 11:55
From: Balthazar Constantine
You have to have both tied to your pay pal.
And my bills (utilities etc etc) are paid via direct debit from my bank.


Does your bank offer debit cards? That is not a credit card and you could use it to pay for premium service.

Otherwise I am out of gas for suggestions.
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Carl Metropolitan
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06-04-2008 11:56
Do you have debit cards in the Czech Republic? If you can get a debit card that is either MasterCard or Visa compatible, that will work. I use one myself to pay my SL tier.

Alternatively, if you are close enough to the border, you might check to see if you can get pre-paid credit cards in a neighboring EU nation.
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Marcel Flatley
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06-04-2008 11:56
Are you sure about Paypal needing a credit card?
My PayPal account is connected to my bank account, so I can put funds in the PayPal account to pay for things. Then again I am in the Netherlands, not Czech republic.

Furthermore I do know about banks here that have credit card that are working about the same as a bank card, so you have to fork over what you spent that month, and cannot get into debt (well only for the payments of one month).

On the other hand, Credit Cards, wether you like it or not, are the way to pay at the moment on the internet. So either you wait for other systems to kick in, or start trusting the CC a bit more ;)

Hope you can do something with these tips!
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Ann Launay
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06-04-2008 11:57
Ah, OK, PayPal says this:

From: someone
There are two ways to get Verified.

* Add and confirm your bank account.
* Get approved for a PayPal Plus Credit Card, or PayPal Buyer Credit.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Kitty Barnett
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06-04-2008 11:57
From: MortVent Charron
Debit card is the proper term, for what you mention
That could depend on where you live.

A debit card can't be used a credit card here and a credit card that isn't backed by a line of credit wouldn't work as a debit card. They're different things.
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06-04-2008 11:59
sounds, to me, like you're going to have to put your beliefs aside and get a credit card, or don't go premium in SL. quite the little quandry.
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Ann Launay
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06-04-2008 12:00
From: Marcel Flatley
Are you sure about Paypal needing a credit card?

And SL's Knowledge Base says this:

From: someone
For PayPal agreements (US & other countries unless otherwise noted or not known): We require that a PayPal account be verified and the primary funding source be a bank account. PayPal requires that the secondary funding be a credit card, or that there be a balance in the PayPal account to cover charges billed.


So if the OP attaches his bank account and transfers a sum into PayPal, that should apparently work for SL.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Lindal Kidd
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06-04-2008 12:01
I'm sorry...but demanding to operate in today's world of electronic commerce without a credit card is sort of like saying, "I want to play Second Life, but I don't believe in computers. Is there another way?"

It's not just SL. It's everything. Almost everywhere you turn, people will want you to provide a credit card as proof of financial existence.

You're quite right to distrust credit cards. Carrying a balance on one and paying interest on it is like poking a hole in your pocketbook that leaks money. But it is quite possible to have a credit card and to use it without ever paying a penny of interest...by sticking to your budget and never charging any purchases that you can't pay off in one billing cycle.

Credit cards are a necessary evil.
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Balthazar Constantine
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06-04-2008 12:06
From: Ann Launay
And SL's Knowledge Base says this:



So if the OP attaches his bank account and transfers a sum into PayPal, that should apparently work for SL.


The problem is, and this might just be here in the czech republic, is that i cannot add funds from my bank account to Pay Pal.

I dont know why i cant just send Linden a money order to pay for a whole year for my account or that they wont use Pay By Cash which practically every other online game/mmo/rpg does in addition to Pay Pal.


GAH!!!!!!
GoldieFawn Fielding
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06-04-2008 12:08
From: Malia Writer
You could get a pre-paid credit card and use that, it is more like a gift card and you can add money to it only as needed.



Yup I agree. Thats what I use a pre-paid, my own money. You can get one order at westernunion.com for a prepaid card. Just place money on it once a month. I don't believe in CC either.
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Balthazar Constantine
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06-04-2008 12:35
well i tried the western union pre paid card route...hopefully this will work thanks all for the replies
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06-04-2008 12:40
Debit-card indeed is your best sollution, you can fund it from your bank account.

I use wirecard for all my internet transactions (its accepted as a normal Mastercard), they have a head office in germany, and also an island within SL, where you can get (fast) support.

http://www.wirecard.com/wirecard

there's a few more around, i only dont know their names

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Brenda Connolly
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06-04-2008 13:12
I use a Visa branded debit card from my bank, tied to an account that is strictly for online purchases, I move money into it when needed. It's the only card I have now, I cut up all my credit cards years ago.
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06-04-2008 14:43
From: Balthazar Constantine
I dont believe in credit cards....never have never will at all.
That in mind:

I cant pay for a Premium membership unless I have a credit card
OR
Pay Pal

I cant use Pay Pal because you have to fund it with a credit card (Im in czech republic so i dont know how it works elsewhere)

Theres NO information that i can find saying I can pay for a premium account via money order. check, or bank tramsfer.

I used to use pay by cash for Eve and SWG but SL isnt involved with them.

Theres NO pre paid visa/mastercard giftcard for sale int his country

so...because of the worldwide banking self created bias towards people having a credit card i am basically locked out of getting a premium membership?

Or is there some option I havent found yet?

BTW yes I buy everything cash...my new car...cash...plane tickets...cash....only thing i dont is my house which was given to me via inheritence


Welcome to the 21st century!!!!!! Nice to see you here.

Most e-commerce does require the use of a credit card or paypal. So if you can't (won't, don't believe in) get one or the other I guess you can't use things that require a credit card.
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