Poll: should linden labs close down the grid for a longer maintenance, a week or two?
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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12-19-2007 17:38
This issue been repeated for 3 years. But the fact is its not possible. These days with the big companies they can`t turn off the game. besides LLABS is too greedy to eitehr get back money to non useable service. Its inthe TOS. Merry Christmas from LLABS 
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Seth Ock
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Join date: 3 Dec 2006
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12-19-2007 18:54
I second the pro-MySQL statements here from Avacea Fasching and Qie Niangao. I've been using MySQL for quite nearly a decade and have as much faith in it as any other application. But I'm curious about what people expect to gain from shutting down the grid for a week for service. We aren't talking about closing down a bridge for repairs; this is a software and configuration issue and as such the grid should go down only long enough to deploy the next update at any given time. All the development and testing should take place in a smaller scale "sandbox" before deployment. And that might be part of the problem; as rigorous as testing there can be, it can never match the demands of full grid deployment.
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Crunch Underwood
Mr. Grown up, Go away sir
Join date: 25 Sep 2007
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12-19-2007 19:32
wrong thread!
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Rebecca Proudhon
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12-19-2007 19:46
It needs two years of alphabeta
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Gaybot Blessed
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Join date: 3 Oct 2007
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12-19-2007 19:47
I voted yes, but really, I would like to know exactly what they are doing during those 5-15 hours. If they just do rolling restarts of all of the sims, well maybe we don't need it. After careful consideration, I wouldn't mind them doing planned maintenance once a month if it will improve stability.
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Gaybot Blessed
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Join date: 3 Oct 2007
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12-19-2007 19:50
A week is too long for me to go without Second Life. I think it would be far to difficult for them to do all of the "paperwork" involved to rearrange stipends, tier, and other in-world things that go on perpetually. I believe it could also kill the economy.
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Maximillian Desoto
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Join date: 26 Apr 2006
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12-19-2007 20:25
From: Starling Cazalet.. unprintable epithets that should NOT be in a PG forum...[/QUOTE
Read the Guidelines, please.
Also, to all of you that want to close down the grid, think about this: how do they stress test the asset server without 50k people bouncing random stuff off it all the time? Some of you may not have been around when they had Beta-grid stress test parties, where they idea WAS to get enough people on that grid to break things.
Well, they just can't get that kind of stress on the beta grid, to see what is going to happen.
So they do the best they can, and try to deal with it when the whole mob of us starts rezzing cubes, clothes, random pose balls and what not.
Unless they have a fix that is going to TAKE two weeks to implement, there isn't any reason to shut down SL for two weeks.
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Nina Stepford
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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12-20-2007 00:19
only if john carmack is replacing cory. john carmack would sort this shit out FAST. 'nobody gets a day off and everyone sleeps in a sleeping bag on the lab floor until this grid is stable'. carmack is GOD.
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Tegg Bode
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Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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12-20-2007 01:25
From: Yuukie Onmura Should LL close the grid completely for a week or even two, if that gives them time to _really_ fix thing, instead of plugging holes in a running grid with duct tape and balin wire? and before you say "nooo that would hurt my business!!!111", think about how much the current state hurt your business every day, for an unknown period of time ahead. Current state of up and down isn't that bad, it's not like your opposition are making sales because only your sim is offline, really it is like people complaining they can't run a business because it rains, because SL being down happens that often and always will, so lump it or leave I guess. There are much bigger problems with the economy than grid downtime. Camping, Scambots, and the "I'm not putting money into a game" attitude are the serious problems. 2 weeks wouldn't work better to have regular scheduled changes in weekly maintenance downtime. 2 Weeks of changes at once would be a nightmare when nothing worked and there was no way to gues which of the 200 odd changes is the culprit.
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poopmaster Oh
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12-20-2007 11:06
maybe they should only let 500 people online at once so things will work better
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Colette Meiji
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12-20-2007 11:09
would this fix things?
I mean a lot depends.
If they said we need to take SL down for a week to replace the asset server with a far more reliable system.
Then you could say - "hey thats reasonable, we need that."
If they just say
We need to take SL down for a week to figure out why its so unstable.
Then it would be "Ouch .. so they dont even know what they are doing?"
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Sharie Criss
I'm just peachy, thanks
Join date: 4 Nov 2007
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Silly
12-20-2007 11:24
There is NO NEED to take the grid down for that long - EVER. It would not help a darn thing. Anyone who has written more than 3 lines of code in their life knows this.
What needs to happen is a CONCENTRATED bug killing effort. Feature freeze the grid / viewer, and fix the blasted bugs. No more new features - ZERO, until it's stable. Does it need to be PERFECT before they can start adding features again? No, but if it is totally unstable, like it is now, adding features is the WORST POSSIBLE thing that LL can do. And yet they continue to do it. It is totally unprofessional behavior. I have lost lots of $, objects, time, etc. on this mess. It's quite frustrating. Why oh why is LL acting like a couple kids in a dorm room instead of a business??
Looking at the latest release economic data, the financial backers of LL should be deeply concerned. No growth, or a contraction (as we see) is a big indicator that something is very very wrong and that a shakeup needs to happen. Could be why they waited so long to release it...
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