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Kitty Barnett
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11-06-2007 19:40
From: Darkpoet Magne It does feel a lot differeint with the friends list and Im window being two different things, it is definately going to take some getting used to. (Sorry to hijack the thread but this seemed interesting) It seems you never used SL without the communicate window? We used to have Friends as both a "New IM" tab on the IM window (somewhat similar to how it is now) and in a separate window for the longest time and many (most?) people hated the idea of giving up one in favour of the other. Since you never used the old UI before you used Nicholaz', do you have a preference for either one now (ignoring the getting used to it)? |
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-06-2007 19:55
From: Kitty Barnett (Sorry to hijack the thread but this seemed interesting)
It seems you never used SL without the communicate window? We used to have Friends as both a "New IM" tab on the IM window (somewhat similar to how it is now) and in a separate window for the longest time and many (most?) people hated the idea of giving up one in favour of the other.
Since you never used the old UI before you used Nicholaz', do you have a preference for either one now (ignoring the getting used to it)? I like the the way they have it set up right now on the SL viewer, but if the Nicholas will work for me, I am willing to sacrifice.
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-06-2007 23:39
Ok, Now I am home where I can play and tweak 
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Darkpoet Magne
Dances With Penguins
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11-07-2007 00:40
As promised...
CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (2004 MHz)
Memory: 3071 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
Graphics Card: Radeon X1300 Series x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE2
OpenGL Version: 2.0.5646 WinXP Release
LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)
Packets Lost: 55/156877 (0.0%)
Viewer Digest: d9cf4e4f-df70-0a44-1735-96e2d1a5be01
Is everything I found under the about second life.
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Life is over and death wont come,
Light shines dimly from an empty sun.
Riding on the flatline from a loaded gun.
Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
Six feet deep on the devils porch.
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Alyx Sands
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Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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11-07-2007 15:59
From: Darkpoet Magne I couldn't dream of it. Just forget I was trying to help. Remind me not to do that again.
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
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11-07-2007 16:46
There is nothing in your machine specs that looks like a problem. Some people in the past have had issues with the ATI 1300 and Vista, but even those look like they were solved by a video driver update. I assume you've already tried that ... if not, do remember to uninstall the current driver before installing the new one.
I hope stripping out other programs and services running on your machine does the trick, 'cause I'm out of ideas.
If the crashes really bother you, and no one else has an idea to pass on, you might try the truly desperate ploy of actually reading the crash logs from SL:
C:\Documents and Settings\<your username>\Application Data\SecondLife\logs
Nicholaz's logs end up in the 'Program Files\SecondLife' directory.
But I wouldn't recommend log reading unless you've been a developer at some point.
Good luck!
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Darkpoet Magne
Dances With Penguins
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11-07-2007 17:29
From: Alyx Sands Just forget I was trying to help. Remind me not to do that again. It's nothing like that, I've just gotten so used to using the two screens, I don't understand how I would ever be able to back to just the one.
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Riding on the flatline from a loaded gun.
Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
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Alyx Sands
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11-07-2007 17:57
From: Darkpoet Magne It's nothing like that, I've just gotten so used to using the two screens, I don't understand how I would ever be able to back to just the one. Sorry, it sounded like "stupid idea I've already tried that of course"  I haven't got any experience with dual screens at all (instead I have two computers sharing the SAME screen...), I just thought that was something out o the ordinary that could be the reason. I always have both firewall (SPF, used to be Kerio) and antivirus (Antivir) running, but I tend to shut down desktop search, because the indexing sometimes does funny things.
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-07-2007 18:54
I'm just wondering what it is going to take to run SL smoothly without crashing as much. Sometimes I can go for a while before I crash, sometimes I'll crash, log in and crash before I finish logging in. I just seek stability.
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Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
Six feet deep on the devils porch.
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-08-2007 11:48
Next question:
How often should I clear cashe?
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Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
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Brenda Connolly
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11-08-2007 11:51
From: Darkpoet Magne Next question:
How often should I clear cashe? This has been debated. Some say frequent cache clearing causes starin on the asset server, so it should be done sparingly. I do it anytime I update a viewer, or if I am having some sort of difficulty. If not, onece every couple of weeks.
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-08-2007 12:00
So far, I crash at least once a day.
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Life is over and death wont come,
Light shines dimly from an empty sun.
Riding on the flatline from a loaded gun.
Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
Six feet deep on the devils porch.
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Brenda Connolly
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11-08-2007 12:06
From: Darkpoet Magne So far, I crash at least once a day. It's obvious somwhere in that hi tech machine of yours , something is not agreeing with SL, I wish I knew. My ebay bought Dell is a Yugo in comparison to your ferrari, but I have few problems...*shrugs*
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Sally Silvera
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Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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11-08-2007 12:06
I clear cache when I'm having problems of some sort or other. But generally once every two weeks suffices for me.
One crash a day btw is not that bad..... I'm not saying it's good, but I've heard a lot lot lot worse.
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-08-2007 12:08
From: Sally Silvera I clear cache when I'm having problems of some sort or other. But generally once every two weeks suffices for me.
One crash a day btw is not that bad..... I'm not saying it's good, but I've heard a lot lot lot worse. I know, sometimes its less, sometimes its more, trying to find out how to cut them back. lol
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Life is over and death wont come,
Light shines dimly from an empty sun.
Riding on the flatline from a loaded gun.
Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
Six feet deep on the devils porch.
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Darien Caldwell
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Join date: 12 Oct 2006
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11-08-2007 12:16
I used to use Nicholaz's client, back when it was much more stable than the Linden one. However after Nicholaz was able to get most of his fixes into the Official viewer, the advantage of the Nicholaz Client is less apparent. In fact Nicholaz himself posted recently he would be putting development on the back burner for awhile because there's not a lot to do. But it does still offer a lot of favorable tweaks and you can't go wrong using it. |
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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Staying on topic...
11-08-2007 12:25
Has anyone using BE tried using it with the new viewer? Is it working? I just installed BE two days ago and have seen majority stability improvements. I'd hate to lose that now!
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Brenda Connolly
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11-08-2007 12:32
From: Darien Caldwell I used to use Nicholaz's client, back when it was much more stable than the Linden one. However after Nicholaz was able to get most of his fixes into the Official viewer, the advantage of the Nicholaz Client is less apparent. In fact Nicholaz himself posted recently he would be putting development on the back burner for awhile because there's not a lot to do. But it does still offer a lot of favorable tweaks and you can't go wrong using it. True, he notes that there is little difference stability wise in the viewes. Since Nick's was the first stable one i used, i will continue to favor his, mainly because with Old School, I can have the old chat window/friendslist setup, and there is no voice client for me to have to disable.
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Sally Silvera
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11-08-2007 12:34
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook Has anyone using BE tried using it with the new viewer? Is it working? I just installed BE two days ago and have seen majority stability improvements. I'd hate to lose that now! I was wondering the same thing. I guess I'm not installing 1.18.4 until I absolutely have to. |
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Darkpoet Magne
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11-08-2007 14:48
I havn't tried yet... another thing, I wonder how Nicholaz and the standard SL viewer compare to the onrez client?
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Life is over and death wont come,
Light shines dimly from an empty sun.
Riding on the flatline from a loaded gun.
Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
Six feet deep on the devils porch.
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Darien Caldwell
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11-08-2007 14:56
I tried the OnRez Client. It was okay. But the interface is completely different, and from what i hear, in terms of stability, it's far behind either the official or the Nicholaz. In fact i'm sure it's not even up to date with this week's client release. So feel free to try it, but if you want stability, probably not a good choice.
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Alyx Sands
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11-08-2007 15:05
Hm, I tried the Onrez client and it gave me a BSOD after a few minutes...NOT good, have never had THAT before with any client.
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Darkpoet Magne
Dances With Penguins
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11-08-2007 15:57
From: Alyx Sands Hm, I tried the Onrez client and it gave me a BSOD after a few minutes...NOT good, have never had THAT before with any client. /me dives for cover. /me shivers.... BSOD?! Wow.... I will treat the onrez like the plague unless I start hearing better things from it. I really do love the way it looks, but by the sounds of it, they still have a lot more work to do before they can really and confidently release it.
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Life is over and death wont come,
Light shines dimly from an empty sun.
Riding on the flatline from a loaded gun.
Numb pain, blood drains,
Fading light, blurrng sight,
Heartbeat stops lungs give out,
Breathing stops as blood clots.
Eyes glaze in a bloody haze of the final days.
A wooden box holds a rotting corpse,
Six feet deep on the devils porch.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
Owner, The Mall at Cherry
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Comments?
11-08-2007 17:02
Can anyone comment yet about whether Nicholaz is working with the new viewer?
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Brenda Connolly
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11-08-2007 17:05
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook Can anyone comment yet about whether Nicholaz is working with the new viewer? Read all about it: http://nicholaz-beresford.blogspot.com/
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