Is there a way to change the group a sim is deeded to....

...without selling it, and returning all of the residents' stuff? We used a group begun for another reason to deed to out of convenience, planning to create another permanent group as soon as we could. But now it seems transferring the land to the new group will not be as easy as we thought.

Any suggestions on how to do this without taking everything off the parcels and rerezzing it after the transfer?

Without moving out and moving in again? (it's getting old)

Thank you thank you clever folk! What would I do without you?

I dont know if there is a technical way. But if not,

Have everyone join the new group.

Have them deed all belongings or re rez portable belongings set to the new group.

Once you are sure that's all in place, sell the land to the new group. I THINK that would work...anyone else?

Moving stuff isn't the problem, the problem will be any group deeded objects.

There's a big reclaim land button for estate owners, but objects will be set to the old group. This will be an issue if you have autoreturn and such like set.

Can't they remove the group deed on objects or re-deed it to a new group? I could swear I've done that.

Yes you should be able to sell them to yourself.

#1 - Make sure you have Object Return off on each parcel

#2 - Abandon the land (or each parcel)

#3 - Set land for sale and buy it again as the group you wish to own it under

Sell objects with land?

Such a mix of mis-information here.

Some people are referring to Estate Land, and some are talking about Mainland. Which is understandable because the OP was not clear.

But, now I see someone say "abandon land" in part of there instructions. DO NOT click abandon land if you are on mainland! Only do this if it is on a private sim.

Seeing as the rented land is group owned I would assume this is on Mainland. As there is no reason for land on a Private estate to be group owned to be rented out.

The OP posted a thread a day or two ago asking for advice on estate management so I'm assuming they mean estate land.

Should add that I don't know if the OP is an estate owner or an estate manager, which would make the process slightly different.

Nonsense, even on a private sim all the group controls still work and are still useful.

Yes, well I am sorry about that. Truth is, I don't even know enough about this subject to tell what is essential information.



Actually, it is estate land, and we have a very good reason for group ownership, thanks.

Thank you, folks, for all the help. With it I think I can get this mess sorted.

An estate manager, although I can enlist the estate owner if needs be....

one can set the land for sale then 'buy for group' without needing to abandon land at all.

No, re deeded objects to a different group, on my own land.

I have done this. Before you abandon the land - try to clear off as many prims allover you can without completely destroying your environment. I started with a parcel I was able to clear off completely. The trick is to have the land with prims on it have enough prim allowance so nothing gets returned. So before undeeding a parcel check how many prims are on the parcel as opposed to how many the parcel can support.

What is the purpose of abandoning the land if they can just sell it to their other group? Provided they own both groups.

The worry seemed to be objects disappearing, especially tenants' objects, or am I reading the original post wrong?

mass confusion. op wants to change the group that land is deeded to without a sell transaction, which is impossible without abandoning.

But she would still have to sell it to the new group. Even if she did abandon it first.

Her main concern seemed to be tenants losing their possessions so I just addressed that part of it.

unless she was the estate owner.
the only possible way to do the transaction would be to abandon the property to her own name then deed to group. anything else involves a sale.
although i agree that the sale thing propably isnt the issue her initial post suggested. its hard to know what to suggest going by the info in the op.

Yeah, true. There's been a few threads this week that we kinda have to fill in some blanks.

OK, OK, OK... This is the situation: three friends had to leave the sim they were renting on precipitously, because it was sold. They went together on three homestead sims. One friend (X) rented the three to get the best price and took two, the other two (Y&Z) split the third. Because of having to move so quickly, X put Y&Z's sim into an existing group temporarily. Yesterday, (X) created a new group just for the management of that sim, and Y&Z are members of both groups right now, but their sim is deeded to the first group. (X) wants the first group back, Y&Z do not want their stuff returned in one big prim----we have a problem.

So do I have this right? If Y&Z each turn off auto-return on their respective parcels, X will be able to abandon the sim and then re--rent it and deed it to the second group without necessitating the removal of all the prims?

Or will the owner of the company we rented all three sims have to do this?

tyty, clever folk!!!

They'll want to change the group for all their prims and turn autoreturn on again eventually.

I'm not sure why you can't just turn off AR and sell the parcels to Y and Z and let them deal with the permissions and groups. If you do that, and "sell objects with land", and Y and Z "buy them for group" for the new groups, then anything deeded to group should just automagically go over.

when ever a plot is bought and sold autoreturn is automatically turned off. the real danger is having prims spread out over multiple parcels because if you regroup a large plot any smaller plots using the overall prim allowance run the risk of going over their prim limit and returning prims. before swapping any plots to a new group first ensure that all plots have fewer prims on them than is specified in the 'about land' dialogue (plot supports X prims). then set them for sale to yourself for $0, then wear the new group tag and 'buy for group' all the plots you have set for sale to yourself.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

haha bri can testify to the importance of checking the parcels as i described above.
i once returned half her 5500 prim yacht to her while fiddling with parcel ownership