Henmations dances

I have no affiliation with this vendor but finally got round to checking out the dances there last night.

I was very impressed and came away somewhat poorer. I have so far been a Sinewave dance fan and i'm not going to say one is better or worse but i'm very happy to add Henmations animations to my Huddles.

That said and I hope Henrick Schroeder is still reading the forums because Sine people are off in a world of their own, Henrick here's my list of todo's for you:-

1. Please don't just call them f_dance_1, f_dance_2, f_dance_...n Give them a name! (The dances for guys thread mentioned "what would a guy look like dancing OMG? Point is, we know it's from Sinewave and we know what it looks like. Don't miss that marketing).

2. Not a todo as such but I was very impressed that your dances loop even with Mocap, Sine's are very poor on this. Definite PLUS.

3. Coupled with 2, please provide info as to the length of each dance so that we can configure animation controllers to run the animation the full length otherwise the plus listed above about looping is broken. Either in the filename or notecard or properties. If it's there already in properties, ignore me, I didn't check.

4. I was disappointed with the couples dances though. I'm looking for good couples "partner" dances, that is ballroom, latin jive etc, proper partner hold dances. I'm not interested in dances where you just face someone and shuffle - sorry!

5. Please consider supplying animations as either pose ball as at present or just the animation. I spent a good while first unpacking to inventory, then rezzing the ball, just to remove the animation to then put in my Huddles. Bit tedious.

6. Use different dancers, though all your dances are excellent, I felt some were quite an overlap of expression. Different dancers would bring new expression and style.

7. COPY/NO TRANSFER *** PLEASE *** Why do I need transfer on a dance? I'm not going to give it away but I might like some alternate Huddles or dance controller to contain the animations that i've bought. I just don't get this? If the thinking is that it's to stop a club owner buying one dance and rezzing a load of poseballs...guess what a Dance Machine lets people do with just one animation... Sine makes their pole animations copy but not floor dances, what's with this concept?

So Henrick, if you're going to listen and consider my requests, i'll be an even happier customer but there's a difference between being a happy customer and an evangelist, which I could easily be.

However, 1st class animations - thank you. I have a notecard listed just for Henmations now in my Huddles and danced only those last night and didn't feel at all lacking.

Those are good suggestions, Sassy.

I'd add another...the dances I demo'd were all very fast. I'd like to see them slowed down just a little bit. Slow movements are more sexy.

I wish the mocap places would do some stuff f'r kids.

I guess I c'n dream.

ive found some dances at Animzoo that work okay for kids. Well. dependin' on what you mean by kid dances. Like. Maybe you want hokey pokey an' em ring around the rosies and things, which they don't have. But if you want some cute-ish dances or some jumpie dances that aren't "sexy sexy" there are some like that at Animzoo. Their animations are mocap too.

Ya, I use a few of them from Animazoo. About the best I c'n find, really.

Anyoen who has seen me dancing during an after fireworks has seen 'em

I've been using the Henmations "Sensual" female Hud, which as about a dozen different dances. They are all so incredibly similar though, my partner has remarked that i appear to be doing just one very long animation lol. The HUD doesn't allow for a random setting, you have to pick a number and then another and so on... so there's my suggestion.

I think SL is desperate for more waltzes, ballroom, and non-clubby stuff. Considering that virtually every sexual animation has been done, why don't more explore dance, that own the mocap suits? *shrugs* Now if only we could put on the Wiz...

I agree! I would love to see more high quality couples dances, slow dances in particular. I'm guessing that they are pretty difficult to do, but a girl can dream.

Oh and while not a dance, can one of the animators please make the game "Twister"

Transfer actually does have some value: If one is setting up a dance machine for somebody else and supplying the dances, then selling the whole thing. Or, if one wants to trade around dances with others (or an alt, perhaps) who will not be at the same location you are at time of dancing.

But for most people and most applications, Copy is more important than Transfer--especially if one wears the dance on an attachment that might get eaten by the Asset server the next time it gets bumped off its attachment point.

So both options are better, and many other places already offer both.Really? Ummm... Suddenly I'm strangely self-conscious about the extent of my pr0n collection.

Hmmm, and what would be considered appropriate twister attire me wonders...........

/me thinks you already have a clue

I'll bring the baby oil.

Lots of body oil?


oh, I guess that isn't really considered "attire", huh?

Hey! It's worn on the clothing layers. It's "attire".

Unless it's part of the skin

Besides, MrCaleb is now a member of the highly coveted, Pink Thong club

Still blushing......

If you have oily skin, I have a nice bottle of skin toner that'll fix it right up.

I just picked up a henmations dance today, now that they have moved dances to a part of the store where a kid could go. >_>

The dances were good, but I was disappointed to see that a dance
labelled as "mod" on the vendor, turns out NOT to be - once I finally ripped it out of the ball to put in my huddles. I wanted to rename it for practical reasons, but can't. That's not "mod" from my point of view...

re the animation I'm working on right now: what a coincidence

I'll definately ditto that one... Part of the reason I think Sinewave's dances are very popular is because there's a good selection of slower sexy ones. It gives the onlooker a good chance to really see the AV while moving, but not so much that the subject becomes hard to track with the camera. I've passed on a lot of Animazoo's dances because of this same reason. The suggestion about using other dancers is a great one. I passed up plenty of Henmations dances as well because they do, in fact, all look like 15 second clips taken from the same long dance. A different dancer would fix that.

Back on the OP, I was going to post something earlier today, but I got too busy to do so.

I agree with many of your points, especially about having different dancers contributing varying styles.

I went by Henmations today. While I was mildly impressed by a few of the dances, I wasn't very impressed by the conversation I had with the creator in IM.

I had initially sent him an offline IM because it wasn't readily apparent how to use the demo for the dance hud. When I arrived, several people were standing around it. I sat down on it and did nothing, and the folks mentioned they couldn't make it work. Clicking the sign didn't yield any information card. When I figured it out a few moments later, I did pass the word on to the other folks in IM. I sent the creator a suggestion to have a sign assisting folks how to demo the dances in the hud.

Then as I walked around, I noticed each individual dance was packed only in a poseball, and in what I could see of the BUY box, was not just no copy, but no mod. Sorry, but I make dance videos, and it isn't part of my filming process to switch dances by sitting on a different poseball. I added to the offline IM suggesting vendors to sell the individual dance animations.

Then I spotted the back of a sign and saw that the poseball was modifiable, okay.. so yes I can strip the dance out of the useless prim.


Any good dance creator in SL knows that when I like dances, I dont just buy one. I'm liable to buy up to five copies of each dance I like. Even though I dont own a club, someone might think I do by the sheer volume of my dance purchases. (my collection on my excel spreadsheet is now over $275,000L, and needs updating soon for my last 5 rounds of buying).

Not only do I purchase up to five of each dance for my various dance huds and spheres, I purchase for alts and transfer to them as well.

The last thing I want to do is strip that many dances from poseball packing. I saw over 30 dance vendors.

I had a friend come help me see the couples sets, and I wasn't very impressed. There seemed to be no sync, and the friend and I never seemed to sync up. While it was nice to see something different, the lack of a sync kinda took most of the wow away for me.

Soon after, I got an answering IM letting me know the animations could be taken out of the poseballs and used that way.

To give this person an example of how I buy dances, I mentioned it isn't out of the question for me to go to Sine and spend an average $12,000L in a matter of minutes on release day. Rather than read what I was discussing and why... I got an answer somewhat on the lines of (paraphrased) 'sine is the worst by comparison to ours'). My answer was somewhat in the vein of, "It doesn't matter how *you* compare them, it's about making this easier on your potential customers to buy them".

Quite frankly, after that exchange, I was pretty turned off on buying anything. Slamming a competitor like that is not good business practice in my opinion.

I also suggested having a buy all vendor. He said packages might be available in the future. I dont buy by the 'package' that someone else chose the animations, unless it's a BUY ALL and certainly not 50 or more poseballs that I have to unpack, lol!!

I left after only buying six dances. 2 copies of 2 dances, and 1 each of the other 4. Had the vendors been set up to sell the individual animations, I'd have probably spent a LOT more than that.

I dont just buy and use a lot of dances, I spread the word in my tutorial page about dance creators I like and include names and SLurls to them. I've even put small plugs in my videos thanking the dance creators.

oh and p.s. the hud demo was malfunctioning. While checking out the second hud dances, the menu of the first one I tried kept coming up each time I switched on the menu for the second one, so I gave up trying after a few rounds of blue menu box wrestling between the two.

I do like the six dances I got, and am glad someone finally made a somewhat decent kick ballchange. It's just a shame to see someone shoot themselves in the foot and limiting themselves from many more sales.

just a suggestion for anyone with mocap, please put on something like "house of the rising sun" for the dancer to dance to. There are no decent 3/4 or 6/8 individual dances that I've seen in SL, for any style or speed. If anyone knows of any.. please feel free to share.

Gotta agree with ya on the packaging, Phoenixa. Although I hardly buy a large amount of dances compared to you (and especially not for "me", I have alts that dance more.. ), having to first unpack a box, then dig it out of a danceball gets tedious if you buy a few dances (or a shitload..) at a time.. Also, I tend to lose interest in businesses who slam competitors..

Gotta admit, I was also really surprised to see a huge cluster of people that was nowhere to bee seen in store.. Up in the sky however, there where 35 zombies (most in demo-attire, the rest classical noob-looking) standing on a platform staring at a camping box of sorts.. Does that help on the lag at all?

Sorry for my late response, we were very busy in the past weeks, so i had no time to check the forums.



Thank you for that!



YES i am... when i have time.



The main problem is that we spend all our free time into animation productions. Its almost no problem to find names for the first 10 animations, but i would need weeks to find good names for 80 dances... So, i am sorry that i cant promise to change that in the next months.



yes, im sure that the quality of our animations is currently the maximum whats possible in sl.



Thats no problem, we will do that in the future.




most of our current couple dances are test animations we made when we started to prepare everything for sl. i will release a lot of new dances in the next months.




This will be changed soon. I got alot of feedback regarding this issue



You are right... we just started with dance productions and all the dances are results from the first dance mocap shooting day. For the next shooting we will use other dancers to get more different styles in the result.



we will sell copy version too, but the price will be higher then.
you need to know that mocap productions are real expansive (paying dayrates for dancers, equipment, etc)



im glad to hear that!
in the next 3 weeks we will release lots of more dances, couple dances and brand new erotic mocap animations.

and especially for erotic we will release a brand new bed & furniture technology whats a little sensation in secondlife and totally different than anything else... not just the quality of animations

Me too. I want dances that go with a strong bass beat; slower, a little less showy and less like my other job is getting $Ls tucked into my G string...something more subtle but still rocks.

Was glad to discover Henamations too. Now to learn Huddles.

/me agrees
I looked through them all recently but only picked up one because, although the individual moves look very good, the animations are running so fast that it almost looks frantic or even goofy. Slowing them down would make the lot more graceful-looking.