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Top 5 Tips for the Newly Born

Raymond Figtree
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03-13-2007 10:43
From: Yumi Murakami
There's some great advice here, but there's just one I do have to respond to:



I've seen several posts in other contexts saying this sort of thing, but the truth is, not being the kind of person who enjoys SL isn't a crippling character flaw any more than not being the kind of person who enjoys World of Warcraft is. Second Life is a lot more flexible but it can't really allow you to do absolutely anything you want; it is a society with a capitalist market, and as such does have mores, restrictions, scarcity etc.. To some extent you have to take it for what it is, and if it isn't what you like, there's no shame in quitting or just stopping for a bit. Forcing yourself to spend time in SL at times when you don't feel like it, on the grounds that "you ought to be able to have fun if only you were a good enough person", will just make you sad and mean that things are worse at times when you are in the right mood for SL.


I agree. And I am on a lot less than I used to be but I don't think that it's a character flaw, nor was I saying that a person lacks something if they don't like SL. I was just saying there are a lot of things to do there and don't give up before you explore the world fully.

I think I wrote that tip for myself since I've been thinking of quitting SL a lot lately. But all I really need is a break. And for LL to address the performance issues and get a customer service department that works.
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Colette Meiji
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03-13-2007 10:44
From: Conifer Dada
My own tips:

1) Look for freebies and cheapies - you can kit yourself out in decent clothes and there are a few good free skins, such as CS Passport Malibu.

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I know this ones popular - Ive actually coresponded with Starley about people stealing her skins in the past (and CherryBomb and Munchflower and Santana)

And they didnt ever release those as freebies - those were lost to permissions bugs. A lot of freebies are like that.

One of my competitors used to give away skins with her shapes and used the work of other designers to sell her product.

Now freebies arent as bad as that but still they werent meant to be free.

I would think in the very least .. if you like the Malibu skin for instance - then when you save up enough lindens to buy a skin you should buy one of Starley's or some of her clothes (which are awesome btw)
Stephanie Abernathy
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03-13-2007 10:50
So many posters have given so much good advice here already, so i'll just tie in 2 earlier threads which are directly related with more advice:


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Susanne Pascale
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Excellent Advice!
03-13-2007 11:46
The previous posts pretty much said it all..excellent advice! I even learned from it as well, so thank you all. It all boils down to the old "golden rule." Treat others the way you would like to be treated.

As an additional note, don't get in a rut, go exploring! Visit places that seem interesting. You will find all kinds of cool things and probably make friends doing it. The friends are what makes SL so worthwhile, real people, thousands of miles away, clicking away at their key boards with real human intelligence and emotions behind the fingertips.
Looli Vella
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03-13-2007 12:30
These are all such great replies. I'm looking forward to trying that butt-grab move. It will make a refreshing change from *others* grabbing my butt. (~_~)

I find it interesting the things that other newcomers assume. Like that there aren't real people behind the avs. Maybe because I've never played anything like WoW or whatever, it never occurred to me that they wouldn't be other people. It's the idea of bots in camping chairs that surprised me.

I also appreciate having "bling" defined, because several other people have suggested that super fancy prim hair was the way to go (implying that non-prim hair was a newbie giveaway/hideous) but since I'm running a machine that is fairly under the specs LL recommends, I'm particularly sensitive to lag.
Brenda Connolly
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03-13-2007 12:32
My Number one;Second Life is a diversion from First Life....not a replacement for it.
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Colette Meiji
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03-13-2007 12:37
From: Brenda Connolly
My Number one;Second Life is a diversion from First Life....not a replacement for it.



an excellent point.

Keep an eye on your online time. IF SL makes it go drastically up, its important to MAKE yourself step away from the game. Dont worry will still be there when you get back.
Ann Launay
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03-13-2007 12:55
From: Looli Vella


I also appreciate having "bling" defined, because several other people have suggested that super fancy prim hair was the way to go (implying that non-prim hair was a newbie giveaway/hideous)


Bling is anything that, erm, blings in jewelry and related accessories. 'Twinkle' doesn't seem like an aggressive enough term. lol Intermittent shine? I have a gentle bling in my eyes and nothing else...it's hard to look at, especially when someone is wearing 87 pieces of it.

Anyway, it might apply to a hair accessory, but not the hair itself. Non-prim hair is hideous and does scream "Newbie!" but some hair is more primmy than others...I think the goal is not to wear high prim hair AND high prim shoes AND high prim jewelry AND high prim whatever else all at once. Prims in moderation...
vivi Odets
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03-13-2007 14:25
1) If you have a female avi, set your feet to size "0" -- your shoes will fit without embarrassing toe overhang!

2) Learn to use your camera controls. I spent my first month rotating in circles!

3) Be kind, be friendly, be courteous. Say hello rather than zooming on past someone in a hurry. Start up a chat with someone, regardless of their looks. You just never know who is on the other side of the screen -- could be a new friend. It's the people -- with all of our spirits and quirks and personalities -- who make SL . Without interaction, it's just a big ol' empty cold place.

4) Explore! I highly recommend WALKING! Flying gets you places fast, a TP takes you to the doorstep of a shop. But, after you buy that new outfit or leave an event, take a walk and see the sights. There are little hidden gems everywhere -- especially on the mainland where it's more likely for someone to have created some wonderland tucked between a residence and a mall.

5) Be bold, but cautious. SL is a great environment for trying new things, interacting in situations you'd never be able to in RL... but always be true to yourself. Sometimes things in SL can be uncomfortable or strike a painful chord emotionally -- if so, just move along and see what else is out there for you. Keep it fun!
Brenda Connolly
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03-13-2007 15:08
And Girls, when wearing shoes, especially heels, make sure you wear the foot adapter that comes with most of them
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Colette Meiji
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03-13-2007 16:17
If you are the more risque type - and wear body jewlry in the buff - make sure to take it off when you get dressed.

Men this goes double for your nude adornment
Tank Juutilainen
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Say it once, say it a thousand times...
03-13-2007 20:29
The golden rule is the main standard, but also what I've found to be true is to be patient with folks out on SL. Keep in mind that the places in SL aren't necessarily at all like they are in RL, so leave your assumptions at the door - you might be pleasantly surprised...
Ashlynn Dawn
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03-13-2007 21:06
A few of the top things I point out when I meet someone that is a true 'newbie' are those that were touched on previously.

- Freebies are key, but dont keep all of them. Take em all, sure, but then find a spot where you can sit and unpack them and go through them all. I to this day have a few freebies that I love. Also, you can get almost anything you need to start from free places (I take people to the free dove, I think thats the name). Skins, an AO (plz, its so nice to not have that newbie walk anymore) hairs, free hair coupons, a ton of clothing n shoes n even jewlery that will last you a long time in the game and save you money. I also agree, the first month dont spend any real $. You will do that soon enough!

- Search is fabulous...take a day and search up 'explore' and visit those places. ENJOY the beautiful world that SL can be and show your appriciation to the builders and sim owners. It takes a lot of heart and time to build up something just for others to explore and enjoy. Though I love search, totally IGNORE traffic numbers...sometimes its a good idea to scroll past the top ten search results and find other places that arent full of people as often times those people are zombies camping. (Not always, sometimes!) Visiting the most popular places is fine, but can be laggy and turn you off from the game all together.

- Fill something, just, something, into your profile. If you have a few tidbits of information about yourself in there, others might find something in common and they will start a conversation with you with more ease. If you put something in that is more specific, like what kind of music you like, things you like to do etc, it will just spark a connection that others wouldnt even have seen if it was blank. Get 10L, use your camera view and take a picture of yourself or something in the game you liked and pop it into the picture. Show your likes or dislikes or anything you want to share with the world. Profiles are like first impressions.

- This is a big *Do Not Do* (or two) Do NOT go into peoples homes and claim them as your own or start using their pose balls, showers, radios, et all. Would you do this RL? Go wandering the streets and just into someones home when they arent there, shower up, touch everything and have sex (with yourself or someone else)? No, I dun think so...so dont do it in SL. Do NOT go to someones land (unless its a Sandbox) and start building. If someone comes to you and explains "Im sorry, you cant build here, would you like me to help you find a sandbox?" Do NOT ignore them! If they return your items, do NOT start over! Its a fast way to frustrate someone and get yourself on a ban list with the thought of 'boy that newbie was rude'.

That ties into this one...its big to me and many others;

- When someone talks to you, respond. I cant tell you how frustrating it can be to greet someone new and have them ignore you. You can tell they are there, they are moving, looking around, clicking on things or what not. If you are on someones land or sim or store, and they say "Hi *name*, is there anything I can help you with?" or "Hi *name* How are you doing?" please, be polite and say something back. Its easy to get those lil fingers on that keyboard and start up a conversation, thats the best part of online games....PEOPLE!

Talk to people, make friends, see what the game has to hold for you and be sure to stop and smell the virtual flowers!
Ace Albion
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03-14-2007 03:24
Hear hear on the shoes. I see that a lot and it's only rarely due to Ruthing.

Holding Alt and the mouse button to camera around to look at stuff. A lot easier than flying your grill up to things.

ctrl+R makes you run instead of walk (it's fun sometimes).

I disagree about the calling cards thing. I never, ever look in my cards folder. It's huge and full of names of people who left or unfriended months ago etc. Being offered friends by someone who's barely said "hi" is just annoying.

Oh yeah, don't say hi in IM as an approach. It's kind of creepy, just say it in open chat, there's no harm in being sociable.

Stay away from random cybersex encounters unless you're happy to assume you're trading erotic text with a 14 year old. Your call, but that's my warning to you.

Visit cool places. Try the search button, choose "places" and try random words. Oh and just because a sim is rated Mature, doesn't mean it's full of filth, some people just like the option to swear now and then without being permabanned from the forums and suspended from the world for giving the f-bomb one time in a PG region. I'd tick the box to show mature regions for searches. It's a handy wakeup call to see the filth on advertisement, but there are some genuinely interesting things around, and it would be a shame to miss them.

Keep some perspective. 100L$ might seem a lot when you have none. It's not. It's 36 cents.

I'd also agree with Desmond- don't spend one single L$ in your first month if you can manage it. There's a game to be had in collecting the good freebies, and visiting places, joining discussion groups, finding a place where the crowd is cool, or even just spend your time in a sandbox learning to craft if that's your thing.
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03-14-2007 05:19
Geeez, some ppls can't count lol...

My 5 are:

1) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
2) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
3) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
4) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
5) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.

Did I miss anything?
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Daisy Rimbaud
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03-14-2007 06:35
The only trouble with this thread is that all the people who most need to read it probably don't even know this forum exists.
Porky Gorky
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03-14-2007 06:54
From: Susanne Pascale
...The friends are what makes SL so worthwhile, real people, thousands of miles away, clicking away at their key boards with real human intelligence and emotions behind the fingertips.


Personally I don't agree, it's the potential to earn money that make SL worthwhile IMO. Friends or no friends, I would have quit a long time ago if I didnt have such a posotive cash flow, and it's the cash that keeps me here and inspires me to keep creating content for the world.
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Lillyann Chaplin
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03-14-2007 07:31
Hello,

so many great tips, but I miss the one that I value the most:

1) Remember always that you were a newbie once
Nobody fell from the sky and was perfect in here, even if some think and act like that :)

and just my little list of what I learned so far:

2) Be polite, but not too polite
It really is important to be polite, but do not overdo it. I personally love to chat with everybody who visits our beach, but not if they forget the basic rules of interaction

3) Think
A simple word, yet very important. SL is a wonderland, but not a land of wonders. Nobody gives away money for free.... well... camping chairs might, but yet they cost on a different level. Just think carefully about offers, be it free things or money.

4) Feelings
You can log out of SL, but the feelings stay. I was told I scare newbies with that, but it is so true. Remember that there are real people talking to you. You can hurt them... or fall in love... be prepared

5) Have fun
Very important! HAVE FUN! Explore, Enjoy, Create, See, Hear, Like, Dislike.
Go out and enjoy live bands. See the art created by many talented people. Be amazed by sims built just to be explored by you (and your significant other).

That are just my 5 tips for you. I think I just repeated many of the other posters, but some things cannot be menitoned often engough :)
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Colette Meiji
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03-14-2007 07:36
From: AWM Mars
Geeez, some ppls can't count lol...

My 5 are:

1) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
2) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
3) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
4) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.
5) Treat people you meet as you would in real life.

Did I miss anything?



yes - two comments

First, Some people want to change a lil for Second Life be more outgoing, freindly, or even Bitchier, w/e

Second, Lot of people dont knwo how to treat others in real life :p
Brenda Connolly
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03-14-2007 07:49
1. The White Zone is for loading and unloading only
2. Do not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate
3. Objects in your mirror are closer than they appear
4. Keep right except when passing (USA only)
5. NEVER cross the streams.
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Colette Meiji
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03-14-2007 07:52
From: Brenda Connolly
1. The White Zone is for loading and unloading only

No, the red zone is for loading and unloading only!

From: Brenda Connolly

5. NEVER cross the streams.


What happens if we cross the streams?
Robin Laffer
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03-14-2007 08:01
I only have one tip.

If something goes wrong, NEVER expect Linden Labs to do anything about it, just fix it yourself, speaking to the incompetent fools will only get you more angry or make things worse and waste your time.
Shirley Marquez
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03-14-2007 08:29
1. Be polite! This advice goes double for the men, who so often seem to forget. You can't intimidate people here nearly as easily as in RL, because physical force (mostly) doesn't work. If you want to win that fair lady, a bit of sweetness will help a lot.

2. Don't lead with RL questions. This isn't a standard chat room; beginning an encounter with a new person by asking A/S/L (that's age/sex/location) is not the way things are done in Second Life. In fact, for the most part you shouldn't ASK about RL at all; many people will tell you about it, but let them do it in their own way and at their own pace.

3. For the most part, I'll agree with the advice about saying hello in IM, but I believe that crowded clubs are an important exception. If you're in a crowded area (say 20+ people present) with a lot of random chatter and howls and woots flying around, an IM will probably work better because it won't be completely lost in the clutter. A polite compliment (think "that's a beautiful dress", not "you look totally hawt";) or comment about something interesting about the person (an unusual name, avatar, piece of jewelry, whatever) will usually be well received. But don't push it if you don't get an answer, or the person doesn't seem interested in further conversation.

4. Decide on a budget and stick to it. Freebies are all well and good, but a few well-chosen high quality items might make your Second Life a happier one. Keep an eye out for sales by major designers.

5. Attend events! Classes, live music concerts, discussion groups... get out there and meet people.
Lucrezia Lamont
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Question from Quazi Newbie
03-14-2007 08:38
I'm only a couple months old. I'm an explorer at heart and not really much of a social creature (although a social life has certainly found me in SL, so that's been an added bonus). However, the big lure of SL to me is to explore people's creations.

I am impressed and awed by much of what I've seen and I know I've barely scratched the surface. So much exploring to do.

In any event, I keep reading that it's a no no to enter someone's domain and play with their things. I confess that I scratch my head at this. I liken this to putting up a website, and not permitting access. Maybe my perspective is just way off the norm.

I love seeing what people have put together, built etc. Not everyone sells what they create or places copies in public areas. They keep such endeavours on their property. Why is it a faux pas to have a look or perhaps even interact with the item (personal items like sex beds etc. not included in this statement as THAT is something I can see as an invasion).

For example. I was somewhere, saw a beautiful glass home and the door opened for me when I touched it. Inside the living room was a beautiful vinyl record player. I had to play with it and found myself very appreciative of the interactive features. I then left. Is that invasion? Is that a faux pas?

I've even often wanted to leave a little note or gift behind when I've been somewhere amazing just to say "thanks for blessing SL with your creativity". But I'm not sure how that would be received.

I apologize if I'm rambling at this point. I understand etiquette, but SL, to me, seems more public than RL. Isn't the point to share, explore, nurture, enjoy etc.? When I am crossing the line? I don't wish to disrespect anyone or upset anyone.

I've recently purchased some land, which, while it's my private land, I'll be setting up an interactive interface for visitors so that they can PLAY and have fun. But now I'm wondering what the point is in that if it's deemed a faux pas to explore someone else's land. I will still set this up, of course, for the very least my neighbours to enjoy.

I'm sorry if I seem naive. If anyone can enlighten me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks much.

Cheers,

Lucrezia
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03-14-2007 08:45
From: Colette Meiji
No, the red zone is for loading and unloading only!

Don't start your Red Zone Shit with me Colette...



From: Colette Meiji
What happens if we cross the streams?

Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

And your pants will get wet.
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