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Jumpman Lane
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10-31-2009 16:35
From: Scylla Rhiadra
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!

Peh!! Peh!!!

(NO ONE out "ews" ME, Jumpy! :mad: )

lmao
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10-31-2009 19:07
From: Briana Dawson
Any 3D world dedicated solely to sex is doomed to failure or being populated by a bunch of 200 kilo Cartman/Al Bundy'esque men in drag running around claiming to be an unlimited submissive or slave and begging to be 'raped' by 'daddy'.



The first part of your statement is incorrect; RLC has been around for several years now and is run by a profitable company, Utherverse, which also runs a few other virtual worlds, not specific to sex. All are run on the Prototerra platform. Utherverse seems pretty happy with it's little sex palace of a virtual world.

The second part of your statement could be just as true for SL as RLC. I will say tho that it's far easier in SL pretend to be a "200 kilo Cartman/Al Bundy'esque men in drag running around claiming to be an unlimited submissive or slave and begging to be 'raped' by 'daddy'".

O, and you can cash money out of the platform. General money is earned by prostituting yourself, however with the introduction of custom content there are a few designers there charging to help you customize your private apartment, etc.

All that said, I did find the platform (not just the sex-oriented virtual world built on it already) to be very limiting and not in the least secure, which is why I wonder what has drawn Stroker to this platform as the base for his own virtual world.
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10-31-2009 21:40
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Honestly, I am by no means "anti-sex." But I can't imagine anything more stultifyingly dull than an entire world with nothing but . . .

Maybe it will attract all the "U R HAWT!" types from SL. THAT would be a pretty good thing!

At least the "U R HAWT!" crew there have actual money to spend in world rather than the "GIMME LINDENS!" bunch we base half our economy on here.
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10-31-2009 22:24
From: Tegg Bode
At least the "U R HAWT!" crew there have actual money to spend in world rather than the "GIMME LINDENS!" bunch we base half our economy on here.


And we have a winner... Porn people spend cash. Period. Freebies are all good and fine but they don't pay the bills no matter how special they are. I'll take one paid subscription of a rabid sex addict over 5 freebie, never do a thing virtual artistic types. Oh they make art, but actually support the running of the platform? Naw they are proud of slummin in SL. They may have their place but they aren't making me (or the platform they inhabit) any money so they are a bother. This will offend a few but its a fact. You cant pay the bills on good will. Last I checked the power company doesn't take IOUs.
Nebraska can be used in many ways. One just needs to think larger than life. I've been working on my own grids but OS isn't up to the chore ive found. I also think RLC isn't the hot ticket either.
All in all, its gonna take a major outlay of cash and determination and bravado to make it work. If this endeavor includes SLs framework/servers or happens 100% outside of the realm remains to be seen. But don't think stroker is the only one working on something.

I even see the merit of creating a kids only world like club penguin.

I dunno. The VW is at a crossroads I think. Its hard to say where its going.
I do know that the land/sim/rentals are LLs form of a members subscription program, just like any other paysite, its just better disguised.

The fact some of you spend 100s of real us dollars bucks a month is a porners wet dream come true. Now all that needs to be done is deliver a knockout graphics package with well laid rules and it will make bank. Even more so is a idea I have been tinkering with is creating a holo playing field on your desk top like the Japanese have created with their cube anime girls.(your desk top your arms set on NOT your "desktop"computer)
This takes money. And investors are hard hard pressed today to invest in something with so many questions as SL has of late.
Im not a techy person, but I can afford to hire a few and they have told me it will work (my holo program). I for one would love to see it happen. But the quoted price tag is staggering. Im well off but even I cant grasp the hours and hours and manpower$$$ needed to make it all work. Let alone selling it to the public. (Which oddly enough would be the easy part)

Edited to add this tidbit of info. - porn people make money (not like 1998/9 but still good..) Let me put it to you this way.
My friend in seattle has a nice site. A very nice site. He and his One and only partner just passed 41K members. All at 29.95 a month. You do the math. This is his 4th or 5th year of operating.
He owns a silver Veyron. If you know anything about cars I need not say one more word. Free acounts dont pay for things like that.

Yes free accounts contribute culture and more. But we are talking about making money and being successful first. Huge difference. Once established you can allow a bit of leeway for creative types. But in startup mode its do or die.
Disagree all you want. I do very well with my businesses as I dont allow feelings to get in the way of smart decisions. Cold? Comes from being successful and having to many people always trying to take it away.
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11-01-2009 00:41
From: Tegg Bode
At least the "U R HAWT!" crew there have actual money to spend in world . . .

I wouldn't know. None of them have ever offered any to ME.

:D
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11-01-2009 02:56
The little I know from Stroker is the Phallocratic douchebag side of him in SL. ( I got more or less permanently banned from his sim, wich fortunately i have no interest in visiting, because I happened to be a good friend of his ex virtual girlfriend )

I don't think the guy has the insight or the capacities to run a successful virtual world. It's a bit more involved than just tossing money to programmers or motion capturing your sexual intercourses.
My opinion, it's jsut buzz word so peoples then can say "Oh yeah Stroker it's this guy who even made his own virtual sex world, he must know what he's doing"


Any publicity is good publicity isn't it?
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11-01-2009 04:54
From: Ciera Spyker
And we have a winner... Porn people spend cash. Period. Freebies are all good and fine but they don't pay the bills no matter how special they are. I'll take one paid subscription of a rabid sex addict over 5 freebie, never do a thing virtual artistic types. Oh they make art, but actually support the running of the platform? Naw they are proud of slummin in SL. They may have their place but they aren't making me (or the platform they inhabit) any money so they are a bother. This will offend a few but its a fact. You cant pay the bills on good will. Last I checked the power company doesn't take IOUs.

The artistic types aren't really a problem at least they create conent even if it's given away for free. But fior 5 of them we have 20 of the free playing non-creative social types.
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Jumpman Lane
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11-01-2009 06:37
From: Kyrah Abattoir


Any publicity is good publicity isn't it?

hehehe we'll see about that!
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Jumpman Lane
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11-01-2009 06:37
well keep me in the know on all ur endeavors gal
From: Ciera Spyker
And we have a winner... Porn people spend cash. Period. Freebies are all good and fine but they don't pay the bills no matter how special they are. I'll take one paid subscription of a rabid sex addict over 5 freebie, never do a thing virtual artistic types. Oh they make art, but actually support the running of the platform? Naw they are proud of slummin in SL. They may have their place but they aren't making me (or the platform they inhabit) any money so they are a bother. This will offend a few but its a fact. You cant pay the bills on good will. Last I checked the power company doesn't take IOUs.
Nebraska can be used in many ways. One just needs to think larger than life. I've been working on my own grids but OS isn't up to the chore ive found. I also think RLC isn't the hot ticket either.
All in all, its gonna take a major outlay of cash and determination and bravado to make it work. If this endeavor includes SLs framework/servers or happens 100% outside of the realm remains to be seen. But don't think stroker is the only one working on something.

I even see the merit of creating a kids only world like club penguin.

I dunno. The VW is at a crossroads I think. Its hard to say where its going.
I do know that the land/sim/rentals are LLs form of a members subscription program, just like any other paysite, its just better disguised.

The fact some of you spend 100s of real us dollars bucks a month is a porners wet dream come true. Now all that needs to be done is deliver a knockout graphics package with well laid rules and it will make bank. Even more so is a idea I have been tinkering with is creating a holo playing field on your desk top like the Japanese have created with their cube anime girls.(your desk top your arms set on NOT your "desktop"computer)
This takes money. And investors are hard hard pressed today to invest in something with so many questions as SL has of late.
Im not a techy person, but I can afford to hire a few and they have told me it will work (my holo program). I for one would love to see it happen. But the quoted price tag is staggering. Im well off but even I cant grasp the hours and hours and manpower$$$ needed to make it all work. Let alone selling it to the public. (Which oddly enough would be the easy part)

Edited to add this tidbit of info. - porn people make money (not like 1998/9 but still good..) Let me put it to you this way.
My friend in seattle has a nice site. A very nice site. He and his One and only partner just passed 41K members. All at 29.95 a month. You do the math. This is his 4th or 5th year of operating.
He owns a silver Veyron. If you know anything about cars I need not say one more word. Free acounts dont pay for things like that.

Yes free accounts contribute culture and more. But we are talking about making money and being successful first. Huge difference. Once established you can allow a bit of leeway for creative types. But in startup mode its do or die.
Disagree all you want. I do very well with my businesses as I dont allow feelings to get in the way of smart decisions. Cold? Comes from being successful and having to many people always trying to take it away.
krrp me in the info loop gal! on all ur stuffs
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11-01-2009 06:40
From: someone
This will offend a few but its a fact. You cant pay the bills on good will. Last I checked the power company doesn't take IOUs.


That didn't offend me.

Last I checked, my power company doesn't let you use their service for free either.If your cable company offered you a level of service that met your needs, would you say "No thanks. I want to keep paying you."? I have a basic account now, but I have always said LL should charge everyone something , even if it isa one time $10 fee after a trial period. That being said, I don't blame people for taking advantage off LL's generosity, at least those that are able to play nice with everyoine else.

The Free vs Paid discussion brings up some valid issues, but it also sometimes brings up the "creator elitism" that exists in some quarters. If you don't create or aren't looking to make SL a job,you are somehow a 2nd class citizen in SL.

That offends me.

From: someone
The artistic types aren't really a problem at least they create conent even if it's given away for free. But fior 5 of them we have 20 of the free playing non-creative social types.

QED
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11-01-2009 06:47
Linden Lab makes the same money from a parcel with an art gallery on it as they do from the same size parcel with a whorehouse on it.
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11-01-2009 06:48
From: Milla Janick
Linden Lab makes the same money from a parcel with an art gallery on it as they do from the same size parcel with a whorehouse on it.

The whorehouse owner is the one who benefits more from repeat customers, however.
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11-01-2009 07:50
From: Jumpman Lane
well i see now i'm gonna have to do a story called Death of a Brand: The history of SexGen(R) in second life IF you Nika believe that
1. people who steal SexGen(R) beds are getting anything but what amounts to a NeoLove(tm) attached to a crappy piece of furniture (an old version of that base at that) SO what is Stroker all hot about? The scripots and animations were created by Corsi Mousehold and Briggi Bard lmao

2. do you know WHo coined the term SexGen(R), who made the first beds? who's scripts and anims are in every CURRENTSexGen(R) bed.?

no worries Jumpy gonna tell ya.

Stroker IS a great marketer. but he isnt a champion of content creator's rights at all. If you dont know how or why I'lllet ya know! keep ya eyes wide peeled!



Love Corsi... She has done more repairs of the things Stroker still sells as his own than stroker himself does. I find it highly amusing that since Stroker and Corsi/Briggi parted ways.. the lack of new content is.. *grins* yeah. I think its good he fights for IP content protection, maybe he should try creating things himself, instead of doling out for other people to do it and claiming it for his own.

~Brie
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11-01-2009 08:45
From: Brieanne Bomazi
Love Corsi... She has done more repairs of the things Stroker still sells as his own than stroker himself does. I find it highly amusing that since Stroker and Corsi/Briggi parted ways.. the lack of new content is.. *grins* yeah. I think its good he fights for IP content protection, maybe he should try creating things himself, instead of doling out for other people to do it and claiming it for his own.

~Brie

I meant to say allu get is a NeoLove(tm) sex base. CURIOUS about the general derth of new sex beds from Stroker much less any innovation. Hehehehe go to Sroker and see if he will sell u a sex base (I think not lmao!)
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11-16-2009 05:40
From: Marianne McCann
Nope, won't find me there.


I'm with you on that one. I've heard of the thing but it's not my cup of tea.
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11-16-2009 06:44
From: Scylla Rhiadra
I wouldn't know. None of them have ever offered any to ME.
:D

Well they used to offer money to me for just saucy dancing but as the numbers increased so did the freeloaders, you got 20 tightwadded chumps watching & waiting for someone else to tip the dancers or expecting you to take them into the back room for free because it's just a game............ that's when I knew the economy was screwed.
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11-16-2009 07:32
From: Kathrine Wirtanen
Well they used to offer money to me for just saucy dancing but as the numbers increased so did the freeloaders, you got 20 tightwadded chumps watching & waiting for someone else to tip the dancers or expecting you to take them into the back room for free because it's just a game............ that's when I knew the economy was screwed.

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11-16-2009 10:20
From: Ciera Spyker
... a idea I have been tinkering with is creating a holo playing field on your desk top like the Japanese have created with their cube anime girls.(your desk top your arms set on NOT your "desktop"computer)
This takes money. And investors are hard hard pressed today to invest in something with so many questions as SL has of late.
Im not a techy person, but I can afford to hire a few and they have told me it will work (my holo program). I for one would love to see it happen. But the quoted price tag is staggering. Im well off but even I cant grasp the hours and hours and manpower$$$ needed to make it all work. Let alone selling it to the public. (Which oddly enough would be the easy part)...
...I do very well with my businesses as I dont allow feelings to get in the way of smart decisions. Cold? Comes from being successful and having to many people always trying to take it away.


Ciera, my Resident Geek had this to say about your idea:

"She sure *isn't* a techy person. Someone has fed her a line of BS, trying to get financing for their pet laboratory project. A holographic virtual world requires several things that simply don't exist yet. A new display technology, a way to interface it to the computer, including a whole new set of low-level software and protocols, and a hella lot more bandwidth. Yes, there are people working on all of this stuff, but it's a LONG way from hitting the shelves at NewEgg.com. People have been promising us "real" 3-D displays for twenty years and more, and we still don't have them. It's like those flying cars and humanoid robots everyone back in the 1950's thought we would have by now."
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11-16-2009 13:07
From: Argent Stonecutter

looks like a turd to me!
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11-16-2009 13:13
From: Jumpman Lane
looks like a turd to me!
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11-16-2009 16:49
From: Argent Stonecutter

looks like a fossilizes turd with metal on it!
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But it's proof... you CAN polish a turd.
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11-16-2009 18:02
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11-16-2009 22:18
From: Argent Stonecutter
But it's proof... you CAN polish a turd.

No the saying goes like this

You can't polish a turd......but you can roll it in glitter :)
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