I'd suggest the Arcadian security system

Hi.
Please let me tell you that I'm not a salesman, or associated with any sales of this product what so ever. I'm simply relaying my experience.

I purchased a 4096 (I think the exact space is) plot of land as a gathering place for friends. I've spent a little money and a lot of time to make it a nice place. My covenant tells me not to use the Access tab in the land menu, but rather to purchase a security system if desired.

So I did a search in SL but it seems Governor Linden limits security scan range to only 96m. I found several nice units - but that was the issue: I'd have to buy and/or place multiples of these devices around my lot. If I wanted protection against floater intruders, more multiples would be required. Surely there must be a better way so I kept looking.

I came across the Arcadian security system at Hippo. I'm a 2 week old noob and had a setup problem (My own fault), and got a very timely response from my IM from the developer which resolved the issue.

The floating bot continuously patrols so just one covers the whole property on a horizontal plane. I can catch high floaters by creating more bots and have them patrolling higher up if wanted.
It's completely configurable with more features than I'd imagined and is totally cool.

Back when I didn't know how to use it, my wife teleported onto my land, got a 5 second warning then this little security bot MISSLED her right out of there! ROTFLMAO

So many cool features- For example my lot is designed to be PG rated in a mature region.
However we set up a single room for "fun" so we created another Arcadian bot to guard and eject anyone within 1m from the door.

There is no limit to the number of bots on your lot, and you can even see the radar scan no matter where you are in SL.

I spent about $11 USD on this program, and because of the peace of mind it brings (and coolness of it) I consider the best purchase to date in SL.

Again, I'm not selling these just wanted to recommend an exellent product.

Thank you Arcadian!

Zerock Parx

Welcome to SL, Zerock!

Two things..

One is that if you have a covenent, you didn't "purchase" the land. You're renting it from somebody, somebody who does not work for LL, and they can take it back any time they want and you have ZERO recourse if this happens. Period. That's not to say that they will do it - they could be fine people (or furries or whatever) that will treat you fairly, like many estate owners in SL do. They're not obligated to, though.

The second is.. Why do you care if somebody happens to cross your airspace? Or, for that matter, why do you care if somebody walks around this area when you're not there? I'm not disputing your right to do this, just wondering why you'd spend RL money on it...

The things people will do to advertise in RA.......

Thank you Sindy Tsure. The seller told me that I was purchasing the land and making payments to Linden. Perhaps I was confused or didn't know the right questions to ask?



It's not so much the airspace, but rather



For the same reason I don't want strangers walking around my RL property (at any time)

Isablan Neva I am not an advertiser. I sell nothing or work for anyone in SL.

There have seen some posts here regarding security (IE obnoxious intruders) and found a good solution.

It's your right, of course, Zerock.

We've had this discussion before. Lots of people, like yourself, feel the need to protect "what's theirs", or to insure their privacy in SL.

But, (IMO, of course) SL is different from real life, and the old rules don't necessarily have to apply.

For example, one reason for security in RL is to prevent theft. But in SL, people can't take your stuff, unless you've specifically enabled that permission.

Another reason is to prevent vandalism. In SL, the worst anyone can do is rez a bunch of prim litter...and you can defeat that by enabling No Build and/or Autoreturn on your land.

Another reason is for privacy. When you aren't at home, you obviously don't need privacy. When you ARE home, you can turn on your security...but remember, while you can keep people from getting within chat range, you can't keep them from getting within camera range. They can sit in the next sim over and sling their camera over to watch what you are doing.

Or maybe there's some specific person you don't like, and don't want to have around. That's easily solved with Mute and Ban.

So, I don't really see the need for security systems...although if YOU do, I'm glad you're using that instead of those unsightly banlines.

My own suggestion would be to buy a plot on a stand-alone private island (or buy a whole island, if you're rich enough). Put a skybox high up, maybe 3500 m or so, so that anyone who randomly tp's to your island won't see it.

Our sim is open to visitors...all of it, unless one of our tenants specifically asks for a security system. (The tenant is always right...as long as he pays his rent on time and doesn't exceed his prims!)

Maybe.. Which region is your land on?

It could be confusion over paying "in Lindens" which means you pay the owner with Linden dollers instead of RL$ and pay "to Linden" which means you're paying Linden Labs, the creators of SL.


I hear that farily often and, again, you're within your rights to do what you want on the land, as long as it doesn't break the rules of whoever owns it.

The reason I don't want strangers wandering thru my RL home is that there's personal info there and I don't want people taking what little food I have here or running up my PPV cable bill or trashing the place or anything like that. As long as you have autoreturn on (which I suggest you do, if you understand it) people in SL really can't do any of that.

There is no reason why one security system couldn't cover your plot. A typical 4096 is a 64x64 square. A single system at the center or either quarter point would easily take care of the plot.

That said, if you need a networked security system, I recommend hippoSECURE from Hippo Technologies. You can share access lists by networking the boxes together, and even tie them to rentals (though not applicable here).

If you are paying tier to Linden Lab, then this implies that you bought Mainland rather than Private Island.
However, in your OP you say that the Covenant does not allow ban lines. The existence of a Covenant implies that it is not mainland.
You would be well advised to find out what you have bought.

Many people would give you 10 out of 10 for not using ban lines should it turn out that you have mainland.


I wonder though about your desire to cover every square metre of your 4096 with security. It sounds as if you have implemented it because you think that you *might* need it rather than your experiences here demonstrating that you actually need it.

People's mileage vary.
Since I started in January 2007, I've only ever had to eject an avatar twice.
Alongside that I've met some very nice people who were passing and stopped to chat.
That's as an attractive (if I say so myself) female avatar building and living in Mainland areas with a goodly number of avatars passing through.

Hi Sindy:
I am in the Jericho region.

I don't want people on my property: I am paying for it, and many of the nice things on it. I'm the owner (or occupant) and I've designed it for private use for myself and a hand full of friends. If people want to sit on an animation ball or what ever they may like to do, or be curious they can do it on PUBLIC land, or other places who don't mind. There are pleny of public areas for their enjoyment, but not my private space.

It's not about stealing. (IE eating food etc) It's about an invasion of private space.

I'm the owner of the (or occupant) of the property and have sole rights regarding intruder enforcement. I wouldn't want any of my guests having an issue with rude intruder(s) who aren't supposed to be there in the first place.

That's a private island - you may be paying in L$ but you're not paying it to the Lindens.

Personally, I agree with Sling - at least 9 outta 10 people that happen to wander into my land are pretty cool and I enjoy chatting with them. That's not for everybody though, I guess.

/me shrugs. To each their own.

edit: and, again agreeing with Sling, it sounds like you've set up security as a preventative step, rather than as a reaction to having been griefed. Since you're on an isolated private island, you'll probably usually just see other people who are renting land there on Jericho - might want to turn the security off and see what happens, first. Just a suggestion..

I guess that pretty much sums it up.
Me, personally am not a chit-chatty person in RL, and much of it carries on SL. I enjoy a the company of close friends but don't have as much interest in strangers. I've build and paid for a place for us to meet. It's much nicer and personal than the regular Microsoft IM. We have family overseas and makes a great setting.

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Other properties in the region have their own security- I've crossed by accident and been tossed off. It's fine with me, I understand they want their privacy and don't want strangers dropping by. Just like myself.

My second rental was on the mainland, since 1 or 2 months after that I've always had my two rentals on the same private sim and one recently as a sparkly new openspace with a friend and no search listed parcels.

It doesn't matter where you are, the "explorers" and clueless newbies will be there, snoop around and be an annoyance without a shred of respect for private land (as in non-public, non-search listed land).

If they're new, or actually step inside somewhere I don't even bother to ask them to leave anymore, it's a straight tp home. Everyone else will usually get a friendly IM but not one out of literally hundreds now didn't ignore it, start griefing or started arguing about it.

I logged on to find two wandering in the sim this morning, no response to IMs. I went shopping and was gone for maybe all of an hour and come back to find a newbie taking up 400 prims with boxes and rezzed prim hair. That's on a private, stand-alone sim used by 2 people, it really doesn't get much more obscure than that and it's hardly an exception, it's like that more days than not.

Security systems are one thing, but calling out "grieeefer!" on a group channel with over 100 armed eccentrics looking for something to do is even better ^^

A pest on a private estate is sort of like a kid with a firecracker trying to annoy a nest of vicious pirates... it *always* backfires.

...though if it's someone just walking by, well, 'tis a shame - they are probably lost and bored new residents, and now have Yet Another Reason to feel unwelcome, marginalised and disenfranchised.

Your right to do it though, I guess...

Ladies and gentlemen, for your entertainment tonight we proudly present (with profound apologies to Mr. Gilbert and Mr. Sullivan)....the Corsairs of Caledon!!
*cue sprightly overture as the curtain rises*

i don't use an orb, as i live in a low traffic area, and when i am not online, my mate is sometimes on when i am not, so he normaly takes care of the greifers and such.

Sings: "For I am a Pirate Prim" ....
Chorus: "You are! Hurrah for the Pirate Prim" ....

but 'ave you got any 'at 'asn't got spam innit?

When are these people going to realize that there is no security and that security systems are a waste of money?

I wonder if I'm the only one who feels a sudden strange compulsion to cruise Caledon in a steam-powered craft, scattering particoloured Jolly Roger particles over the greens.

/me records a hearty "Yo ho ho" for llLoopSound.

I have always lived on mainland, without any security system, and I have never had non-invited guests. The worst that happened was one time a guy had logged out from my place and logged back in to 'last location'.

ETA - I did live for a short bit in a castle next to the hangout. The guy I lived with did have a security system and we actually did have lots of people randomly coming into the castle. Must be more a matter of location and who/what is nearby.

I think he's looking more for privacy than security.

Nowdays, I'm not even sure that 'security' is a big concern - the Lindens have coded most of the nastier griefer toys into patheticness. With the exception of people dropping multi-sim megaprims and litter on my months-AFK neighbors land encroaching, it's been a long time since I needed a Lindens help with land stuff. Freeze, eject and ban FTW!

Either way, it's his money to spend however he likes.

Using sensor in a security system is a good way to cause spam, because they attempt to teleport outside of your property lines. There are several ad cutters who exploit this, merely to harrass their detracters.

Linden Lab removes them when AR'd, because they cause a *dialog lock loop*, making it impossible to function in the region, even on your own land.

llOverMyLand() and llTeleportAgentHome(), followed by adding to the list of banned avatars, outside of a timer event is the recommended way. Once the person is banned, there is no need to persist by spamming or needlessly gobbling up sim resources.

I find it amusing that you take this stance with that huge jpeg ad in your signature line and the slurl to your business below it.

I believe the guy is just enthused that the thing worked and the creator actually responded to his request for help. That sort of business SLer is hard to come across and deserves the public kudos.
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Thank you for that Sindy, it is exactly right. I know there isn't really a true "Privacy" IE one can swing a camera around, but I like applying a level of difficulty, if only denying "physical" access.


Yes, also right on.