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Jig Chippewa
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11-29-2009 22:57
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Huh.

But what about stripey stockings?

I'd re-enact one of those radical Protestant sects like the Ranters or Diggers, which let women preach and stuff. Oh, and go naked, so that frumpy clothes wouldn't be an issue anyway.



Scylla, I HATE stripey stockings!!!!
Seriously I really do. They remind me of all kindsa crazy women. All the woman needs is frizzy blonde hair and badly shaven armpits. Also wont wear perfume. Will end up talking to cats in the street.
Its so sad I end up getting that icy cold shiver on main deck feeling.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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11-29-2009 23:04
From: Jig Chippewa
Scylla, I HATE stripey stockings!!!!
Seriously I really do. They remind me of all kindsa crazy women. All the woman needs is frizzy blonde hair and badly shaven armpits. Also wont wear perfume. Will end up talking to cats in the street.
Its so sad I end up getting that icy cold shiver on main deck feeling.

Clearly you've never seen stripey stockings worn PROPERLY . . .

Now, what was this OP about again? Oh, yeah . . . :o
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Rochlin Pelazzi
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11-30-2009 05:09
Do people outside of the U.S. actually dress up and act silly in war re-enactments?

I get all giggly thinking of an Englishman going on like that.
Veritable Quandry
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11-30-2009 06:38
First, it would help to refer to the war by it's proper name: "The War of the Rebellion" as it is called in the official reports.

Second, there was an interesting plot by Lansford Hastings to seize California for the Confederacy (you may remember Mr. Hastings for his minor role in the the Bear Republic and for his wildly inaccurate Emigrant's Guide to Oregon and California, which mentioned the Hastings Cutoff that was a factor in the Donner Party's tragedy, although it is often forgotten that he was also the attorney for Dr. McLaughlin of the Hudson's Bay Company that prepared the incorporation papers for Oregon City, the first incorporated city west of the Rocky Mountains) by taking a troop of Confederate sympathizers disguised as miners to capture the main Union garrison in California. When the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies was published and his role became public, he made a hasty exit from the West Coast and led two expeditions to settle former Confederates in Brazil. He caught malaria and died during the second trip.
Melita Magic
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11-30-2009 08:54
From: Scylla Rhiadra
With the greatest respect, Melita, I think that the highlighted part of your statement is where the problem arises. Who is this "they" to whom you refer? Well, obviously, Americans. But there are plenty of other "theys" out there; what you say here is true only in your own particular context.


In these forums. Sorry if it was less than clear. And I still think (most) people knew what the OP meant.

I also think there's an exclusionary thing being read into this. He was merely asking about roleplay. I did answer his question first, too, and it applies either way.

OBVIOUSLY any nation can have a civil war. Did they all also have a War of Independence? (SAME country, not "the UK" which is a collection of nations. At least, from my Independent point of view.)

And if so, what are the odds that nation is the one he meant? As opposed to America which is where a lot of SLers and (more to the point here) forumites are from? Do most of those *also* have re-enactment buffs who seek to duplicate that real life experience in Second Life? What are the odds of another nation meeting all the above criteria?

From: someone
And yes, America bashing is a popular and highly dubious sport which I too find distasteful.


Thanks.

PS,

From: Scylla Rhiadra
I've looked for ECW-era stuff in SL, to no avail. It's all . . . American Civil War. :D


Not to be pedantic, but. Kind of my point.
Pserendipity Daniels
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11-30-2009 08:56
From: Rochlin Pelazzi
Do people outside of the U.S. actually dress up and act silly in war re-enactments?

I get all giggly thinking of an Englishman going on like that.
Oh yes, they do!

Pep (is not an Englishman.)
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Melita Magic
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11-30-2009 09:05
Then the two nations should participate in a duel re-enactment!

(More versimilitude.)
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11-30-2009 09:16
From: Melita Magic
Then the two nations should participate in a duel re-enactment.
I hope that's a subtle pun?

Pep (Actually, I'm sure of it. Golf clap.)
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Melita Magic
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11-30-2009 09:17
I like your golf claps.
Veritable Quandry
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11-30-2009 09:19
I think showing up at a War of the Rebellion reenactment with English Civil War weapons would be little better than showing up with a knife at a gunfight. Pikes v. Gatling gun makes for a short duel.
Nika Talaj
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11-30-2009 09:50
From: Rochlin Pelazzi
Do people outside of the U.S. actually dress up and act silly in war re-enactments?

I get all giggly thinking of an Englishman going on like that.
Prepare for giggles, then! :)

Many hobbyists of British extraction regularly travel to the U.S. for various revolutionary war re-enactments of specific battles. Infantry, cavalry, and even period Naval battles! English folks will frequently join into one of the many U.S. based British forces groups - this thread just missed the fall season. cf. The Royal Welch Fusiliers in America: http://www.rwfia.org/Schedule.htm

Here's a typical invite:
http://www.bvma.org/events/gelston.cfm

Re-enactments are particularly feverish during the fall in New England, so as to catch the fall foliage season, of course!
:D

These British hobbyists throw equivalent wingdings in Europe, and of course many American enthusiasts will travel to later ones, where Americans originally served as well.
Melita Magic
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11-30-2009 11:19
But it's still 'our war' they're doing. :p

/me singsongs under her breath, "my war's better than your war...nana nanana...!"

Veritable Quandry
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11-30-2009 11:48
Hail, hail, Freedonia...
Eli Schlegal
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11-30-2009 12:26
From: Scylla Rhiadra
LOL, I'd nearly forgotten what the original OP was . . .

And I also forgot to mention that English Civil War buffs also are very big on re-enactment.



I've looked for ECW-era stuff in SL, to no avail. It's all . . . American Civil War. :D


Who are you trying to kid? Those guys are obviously pilgrims. They landed at Plymouth Rock in their ships, The Nina, The Pinto, and The SS Minnow.
Sheez some people don't know squat about American History.
Get out of our forum, foreigners!
Rochlin Pelazzi
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12-01-2009 01:48
From: Nika Talaj
Prepare for giggles, then! :)

Many hobbyists of British extraction regularly travel to the U.S. for various revolutionary war re-enactments of specific battles. Infantry, cavalry, and even period Naval battles! English folks will frequently join into one of the many U.S. based British forces groups - this thread just missed the fall season. cf. The Royal Welch Fusiliers in America: http://www.rwfia.org/Schedule.htm

Here's a typical invite:
http://www.bvma.org/events/gelston.cfm

Re-enactments are particularly feverish during the fall in New England, so as to catch the fall foliage season, of course!
:D

These British hobbyists throw equivalent wingdings in Europe, and of course many American enthusiasts will travel to later ones, where Americans originally served as well.



/me giggles like mad.

TY for the links. Its nice to know Americans aren't the only ones that do these things.

The more you know............
Laurin Sorbet
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12-01-2009 02:16
From: Rochlin Pelazzi
Do people outside of the U.S. actually dress up and act silly in war re-enactments?

I get all giggly thinking of an Englishman going on like that.


http://www.thedevilshorsemen.com/

Oh yeah. I saw these guys at Slane Castle a few years ago and they were amazing. They blew the Ren Faire jousters at Black Point out of the water. They're professionals, not hobbyists, though.
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12-01-2009 15:25
By the way. On our side of the fence we usually refer to the US "Civil" War by the more descriptive phrase of the War Between the States. Only a Damned Yankee would use the Civil War tag.
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12-01-2009 15:33
From: Laurin Sorbet
http://www.thedevilshorsemen.com/

Oh yeah. I saw these guys at Slane Castle a few years ago and they were amazing. They blew the Ren Faire jousters at Black Point out of the water. They're professionals, not hobbyists, though.
The Devil's HorseWomen are the really impressive part of the show!

Pep (They come from around the corner from us - and they are my daughter's second choice of career!
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12-01-2009 16:31
From: Jannae Karas
By the way. On our side of the fence we usually refer to the US "Civil" War by the more descriptive phrase of the War Between the States. Only a Damned Yankee would use the Civil War tag.


It's the War of the Rebellion.

Or as they say in some parts "That Recent Unpleasantness."

But there are many. many reasons why "War Between the States" is an inaccurate description of the conflict.
Peggy Paperdoll
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12-01-2009 16:37
The War Between the Union and the Confederacy?
Veritable Quandry
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12-01-2009 16:56
From: Peggy Paperdoll
The War Between the Union and the Confederacy?


Not quite as bad, but it still grants the Confederacy a status that it aspired to, but never achieved. It was, politically, a breakaway faction within the United States that never meet the recognized criteria for being a legitimate government. While the Confederacy did have an elected government, it never exercised uncontested control over its territory and borders, and was never recognized by another country. Even the states that seceded were never fully under Confederate control, with the hill counties of Arkansas, Kentucky, and Tennessee remaining strongly Union in sympathy, and the Carolinas attempting to exercise their own sovereignty at the expense of the Confederate government.

I prefer The War of the Rebellion as the name used in the official records. I can accept The American Civil War as an accurate description.
Jannae Karas
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12-01-2009 16:58
From: Veritable Quandry
It's the War of the Rebellion.

Or as they say in some parts "That Recent Unpleasantness."

But there are many. many reasons why "War Between the States" is an inaccurate description of the conflict.


Yes, but I am not describing the conflict. Merely stating what it is referred to in the neck of the woods that my family came from. Of course, we still refer to West Virginia as Western Virginia.
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12-01-2009 17:20
From: Jannae Karas
Yes, but I am not describing the conflict. Merely stating what it is referred to in the neck of the woods that my family came from. Of course, we still refer to West Virginia as Western Virginia.


Fair enough. But to many Southerners I know, that name has very negative (and evil) connotations, especially as symbols of the Confederacy came to be used in the 1950s and 60s.
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12-01-2009 17:29
From: Veritable Quandry
I prefer The War of the Rebellion as the name used in the official records. I can accept The American Civil War as an accurate description.


I see from your profile that you are an Ohio boy. Kind of would make you my natural enemy, seeing as how you folks came across the river and took our land. No hard feelings though.

We call it Western Virginia because that's where we are from. Don't really care about the sensitivities of other Southerners. They didn't do much to help out during the occupation.
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12-01-2009 17:36
From: Jannae Karas
I see from your profile that you are an Ohio boy. Kind of would make you my natural enemy, seeing as how you folks came across the river and took our land. No hard feelings though.


I am an expatriate Portlander. I have, however, lived in West Texas for 1 1/2 years to get my Museum Studies degree, followed by a year in Biloxi, Mississippi and nine years in Northeast Arkansas. I've enjoyed all of these places, even Lubbock (and even natives will tell you Lubbock is hard to like). But as far as The War goes, my family came to the US around 1900, so I don't have a dog in that fight.
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