A Question..

Hi Everyone...

I have been looking for a Place to do Reenact Battles from Civil War - Independance War or any war of that fact.

I really am into History.. i just wondered if any of you knew of Any groups or place for me to visit.

Sorry if this is in the wrong part of the forum


Many Thanks,

Ashleh.

Hi Ashleh;

From what I understand, there are many military role play groups in Second Life. I would advise searching in the Groups tab within Second Life, joining groups that sound interesting, and finding out where they roleplay.

Which Civil War? Whose Independence?

Oh, *come on.*

Like it wasn't clear. I get what you're saying, but it's a bit misplaced here. Leave the poor OP alone.

I've always wanted to be in a Elizabethan roleplay cos it sounds bumpity funny.

But civil war sounds ok for men I guess.

There's this film called Independence Day, and these marshmellow thingies in rock suits come to earth and set up their BBQs to fry us.

The only issue I see, providing you find a suitable venue to re-enact at, is, that you won't be able to fit any decent sized army onto it. SL restricts the number of avies on any one sim, I don't recall the figure though

Good luck though

40 to 100 depending on Mainland or private estate.

Speaking of pet peeves...

I live on the west coast, far from any battle locations, and every year a nearby town stages a Civil War re-enactment with children from local schools.

It always makes my eyes roll when the newspaper covers the event and I get to read how "fun it is" for the children to play soldier, be wounded or captured, or pretend to die in battle.

How authentic.

Let's just hope 'civil war prison re-enactment' isn't waiting for them in middle school.

ya i don't recall any battles in California..but it was part of the union.maybe thats why..
now i'm curious and have to look up if anything happened there or if they sent people over to the battles..
maybe thats it's..they sent troops and supplies..

Perhaps it's simply the fact that the Civil War is part of American history. I live in California too.......and I'm pretty sure we are still part of the United States of America.

However, sometimes I wonder

No, it ISN'T clear. British Civil-War (cavaliers vs rounheads, not the older one commonly known as 'The War of The Roses') and/or the Scottish Wars Of Independence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_Scottish_Independence) are likely candidates, to name just two local ones.

Please note that Jig was the first to move towards localising the time and place (Elizabethan) but Ceka first mentioned California. So would that be the Mexican war of Independence (from Spain) featuring Zorro and lots of swordplay?

Just because you only know one "war of independence", one "independence day" and one "civil war" does not mean the rest of us are so historically challenged.

California sent lots of gold to fund the war. Also there were some direct military contributions:

A battalion of California cavalry was with the Army of the Potomac, and served with distinction. Troops from California also fought against a Rebel incursion into New Mexico.

In Northern California, a battle almost occurred between opposing sides in Sonoma County. In 1865, following the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, Major James Armstrong's Petaluma militia rode up Stony Point Road, intent on wreaking vengeance on Santa Rosa, only to turn back after stopping at the Washoe House tavern. This incident became known as The Battle of Washoe House.

It should be noted that Santa Rosa was a strong pro-Union area, while Petaluma (along with many other areas of the state) was very much pro-Confederacy. The Washoe house is still serving drinks, and has changed very little since 1865.

I'm in agreement with Indeterminate in that the first thing *I* think of when I read "Civil War" IS the English Civil War(s), 1642-1651. And there are a kazillion wars of "Independence" out there (except in my country, where we waited politely for Britain to get tired of us, and cut the apron strings herself).

There is a strong "pro-American" bias in terms of allusions and such in this forum. But that is, in the circs, understandable. And to be honest, I don't find it at all offensive. Just occasionally confusing.

Now you're in my old stomping grounds, having grown up in Sebastopol.

I'm not doubting what your saying, but while I was growing up as a school boy, there was never any discussion about the Civil War in Sonoma County. It was all about the missions and General Vallejo.

As a card-carrying peacenik, liberal, commie-pinko, I'd like the lesson that comes from re-enacting the bloodiest war ever fought by America to be more than just, "It was fun."

Seconded.

I know those places well. Angel Island used to have a tall ship Civil War reenactment in June, and the Petaluma Adobe would host a similar smaller event with soldiers and settlers. I'd have to look it up in photo albums to see which soldiers they were, though.

I live very near to there, on the coast above Jenner By The Sea. The Washoe House "battle" is one of a number of interesting and under-reported events that occurred in Sonoma and Marin counties during that era. For instance:

William Todd, nephew of Abraham Lincoln, was captured by Mexicans in what is now Novato, and sentenced to death (He had designed the Bear Flag). During his ensuing rescue, two of the insurrectionists were killed, along with three of the Mexican loyalists. They were the only deaths during the revolt.

You are being purposely insulting. How do you have any idea what I know or do not know?

When someone mentions those two wars, they are almost always talking about the U.S. Especially where re-enactments are concerned. Civil War re-enactment is very popular here, and battlefields are maintained, etc. We also celebrate Independence Day every July 4.

I feel that you understood the OP yet chose to pick an argument to prove some 'point' that does not have basis in fact. This is yet another America(n) bashing subthread.

With the greatest respect, Melita, I think that the highlighted part of your statement is where the problem arises. Who is this "they" to whom you refer? Well, obviously, Americans. But there are plenty of other "theys" out there; what you say here is true only in your own particular context.

I've already mentioned that (largely because of my literary interests, I guess), "Civil War" to ME conjures up the English Civil War, not the American one. You are sort of implicitly excluding everyone for whom "Civil War" does not mean the ACW in your statement with the suggestion that your context is really the "only" one. If you lived in the UK, you'd quickly discover that what "they" are "almost always talking about" is the English Civil War.

That said, I want to repeat what I also said earlier: I am not in the slightest bit offended if an American merely assumes that I know what she or he means when they talk without elaboration about something that is purely American. Were an American to start talking about "the Civil War," I'd probably simply assume that she meant the American one. And that's cool: it really doesn't bother me at all.

And yes, America bashing is a popular and highly dubious sport which I too find distasteful. If I disagree with much of what goes on in the US, or with what the US does on the world stage, I restrict my censure to those quarters where it is merited, rather than smearing an entire nation.

BACK ON TOPIC .... (sheesh, people, the OP had a great question)

I'd look at this group and their sim:
http://world.secondlife.com/group/a74c584e-85c0-6b26-be85-f64591f8b138

Also might want to join this one, and just ask in open chat:
http://world.secondlife.com/group/fe1a7c45-7bf7-2de4-47c1-53b058dfe384

Actually, I think one could have a lot of fun with a re-enactment involving no more than 40 avatars. Real life, a lot of places just re-enact small battles and skirmishes, and they have a blast.

Maybe you could persuade Madcow Cosmos to expand his (her?) great set of musical avatars to include a pennywhistle!

LOL, I'd nearly forgotten what the original OP was . . .

And I also forgot to mention that English Civil War buffs also are very big on re-enactment.



I've looked for ECW-era stuff in SL, to no avail. It's all . . . American Civil War.

You'd like the English civil war enactors Scylla. The women all look like frumps and wear tasteless overalls with buckets hanging from yokes.

Huh.

But what about stripey stockings?

I'd re-enact one of those radical Protestant sects like the Ranters or Diggers, which let women preach and stuff. Oh, and go naked, so that frumpy clothes wouldn't be an issue anyway.