Griefer shields?
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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08-23-2007 10:25
these shields will never be that good until someone invents one that does the following.
-Tells the griefer hes up past his bedtime on a school night -Emails his mother and lets her know what hes doing down in the basement. -Beats the griefer with a tube sock of woodscrews.
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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08-23-2007 10:26
From: Colette Meiji these shields will never be that good until someone invents one that does the following.
-Tells the griefer hes up past his bedtime on a school night -Emails his mother and lets her know what hes doing down in the basement. -Beats the griefer with a tube sock of woodscrews. You forgot about the spanking. Oh wait thats illegal to do now. XD
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Ricardo Harris
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08-23-2007 10:28
These shields or other things advertised as anti-push objects are useless. A simple prim you rezz does the same thing as far as it keeps you from getting shot into the sky. But like a shield or other anti-push items you need to use it before you're hit and no one knows when this will happen so using it after the fact is useless since you've already been hit. Unless of course you know it's coming. For the most part no one knows when some idiot is going to orbit them so using this afterwards is a case of too little too late.
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Kevyn Hienke
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Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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08-23-2007 10:34
From: Ricardo Harris These shields or other things advertised as anti-push objects are useless. A simple prim you rezz does the same thing as far as it keeps you from getting shot into the sky. But like a shield or other anti-push items you need to use it before you're hit and no one knows when this will happen so using it after the fact is useless since you've already been hit. Unless of course you know it's coming. For the most part no one knows when some idiot is going to orbit them so using this afterwards is a case of too little too late. Yep, and that is the advantage non-physical vehicles and movelock have over a sit cube. You can use them and still move around fairly normally, which means when you are going into an environment where you suspect you may be the subject of such an attack you can turn them on and function normally (unlike sitting on a cube and having to edit move it). As I have to express some skepticism at Colette's approach, because I think a lot of these griefer kids are that way because their mommies (I'd say daddies too, but Colette just mentioned contacting their mother) either don't care what they do or have given up....
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Colette Meiji
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08-23-2007 10:55
From: Kevyn Hienke As I have to express some skepticism at Colette's approach, because I think a lot of these griefer kids are that way because their mommies (I'd say daddies too, but Colette just mentioned contacting their mother) either don't care what they do or have given up....
Thats where the tube sock of wood screws comes in.
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Solar Legion
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Join date: 9 Dec 2006
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08-23-2007 10:56
Ok, a few things here ...
first, the cube is not a perfect defense either - some griefers can actually Unsit you quite easily.
Second: If you have a shield like the proTEC or any similar system, keep the Interceptors on in a sandbox, set to their most aggressive. If need be, turn on the actual inner shield bubble.
Third: If you're going to a place like sandbox Island ... rez out a non-phys or something the second you get there ... it'll save you the annoyance of being caged quite quickly.
Fourth: If all else fails - TP out.
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Kevyn Hienke
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Join date: 21 Dec 2006
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08-23-2007 10:59
From: Colette Meiji Thats where the tube sock of wood screws comes in. LOL, gotcha 
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poopmaster Oh
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
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08-23-2007 12:17
search -> places -> sandbox
hit the 'traffic' button to reverse teh sort order
goto a sandbox with low traffic.
most of them i have been to, i am the only one there, for hours and hours.....
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Qie Niangao
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Join date: 24 May 2006
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08-23-2007 13:44
From: Solar Legion first, the cube is not a perfect defense either - some griefers can actually Unsit you quite easily.  Any idea *how*? I mean, if they can do that, then they must be able to break all links in any rezzed object.
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Ava Glasgow
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Join date: 27 Jan 2007
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08-23-2007 14:24
I read a KB article that mentioned the sitting defense, so I made a point of sitting on a bench when I was reading a notecard at Help Island in my first days. Within three minutes, another av smacked into me and knocked me right off the bench. It wasn't intentional... he was just doing that mad flailing about that happens when you try to sit on some prims that don't have animations in them (this was a double cut torus). Whatever the exact cause was, the experience left me with the impression that this "sit on a cube" thing was complete hogwash. And yet people with extensive experience dealing with griefers seem to swear by it. So was my un-seating experience very unusual? I thought the sitting thing was supposed to protect from av bumps and pushes, not just scripted weapons. 
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Beezle Warburton
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08-23-2007 14:39
From: poopmaster Oh search -> places -> sandbox
hit the 'traffic' button to reverse teh sort order
goto a sandbox with low traffic.
most of them i have been to, i am the only one there, for hours and hours..... Find ones that require a group invite to use.
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Argos Hawks
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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08-23-2007 15:03
From: Colette Meiji these shields will never be that good until someone invents one that does the following.
-Tells the griefer hes up past his bedtime on a school night -Emails his mother and lets her know what hes doing down in the basement. -Beats the griefer with a tube sock of woodscrews. As soon as you get that 3rd option working, I want one. Assuming it affects the griefer and not their avatar.
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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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08-23-2007 15:06
From: Argos Hawks As soon as you get that 3rd option working, I want one. Assuming it affects the griefer and not their avatar. We'll have to ask the sprint nerd from the Alltel commercials, his dad is a carpenter.
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Weston Graves
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Join date: 24 Mar 2007
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08-23-2007 16:40
From: Ava Glasgow So was my un-seating experience very unusual? I thought the sitting thing was supposed to protect from av bumps and pushes, not just scripted weapons.  OP here. In the incident that prompted this post I was orbited the second time by the same socially challenged adolescent AFTER I sat down. He, she, or it, did it with a gun-like contraption. So yes, sitting doesn't always work. This thread is a wealth of information and has given me many ideas. I understand just disappearing is the best defense and I am adult enough to accept that. It sounds like other forms of personal defense in SL are a paper, scissors, stone game. Some things work against some other things and you never know what you'll be hit with. Either way no one dies. But I am going to experiment with a few of these suggestions just on the off chance I can completely ignore the next griefer. I think that would feel good. Thank you. 
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Qie Niangao
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08-23-2007 18:26
Sometime I'd like to see if it's possible to orbit someone sitting on a prim that has llSitTarget() set, as opposed to just a cube... because it's certainly true that more than one avatar can sit on the same prim if it doesn't have an explicit sit target set, which *might* explain the ability to push somebody off such a seat. But that's already kinda surprising to me, so I'm pretty curious about the llSitTarget thing.
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Day Oh
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Join date: 3 Feb 2007
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08-24-2007 02:32
Just a few months back I remember reading about them fixing a bug something like: giving somebody a shirt caused them to stand up? Something like that maybe.
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