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Griefer shields?

Weston Graves
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08-22-2007 20:59
I have been subjected to some orbiting attacks recently. I simply moved to another sandbox, but this just doesn't sit well. I've seen some HUD shields in gadget shops that advertise as orbit, bullet, and cage proof. Do these work and are they worth the funds? It would be nice to wear something invisible that would allow me to POINTEDLY ignore griefers and go about by business. If these shields work this way, can you recommend any?

Thanks.
Avacea Fasching
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08-22-2007 21:40
when attacked or when you think your about to get attacked - rezz a cube or something and sit on it, it works as well a an orbit shield (if there is one) and its free.
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Kevyn Hienke
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08-22-2007 21:58
From: Weston Graves
I have been subjected to some orbiting attacks recently. I simply moved to another sandbox, but this just doesn't sit well. I've seen some HUD shields in gadget shops that advertise as orbit, bullet, and cage proof. Do these work and are they worth the funds? It would be nice to wear something invisible that would allow me to POINTEDLY ignore griefers and go about by business. If these shields work this way, can you recommend any?

Thanks.


The Mystitool (for one, probably there are others) has a non-physical object you rez and sit on. You can still move about (though movement is not as fluid as without it) and walk through walls (so I assume this would be termed cage-proof). My partner and I each sat on them and tried everything we could and they seemed pretty impervious. At least we couldn't find anything that would work (and orbiting was one of the things we tried).
Jessica Elytis
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08-22-2007 22:18
From: Avacea Fasching
when attacked or when you think your about to get attacked - rezz a cube or something and sit on it, it works as well a an orbit shield (if there is one) and its free.


Best low-cost answer there is.

The almighty cube *giggles*

Really, the shields and the rest are jsut for looks, effects and some minor functions.

Non-phys movement on shields that offer it is "jerky". Only really usefull i fyou need to move around a lot while the crap hits the fan. For sandbox building, use the cube. Free, just as protective, and if you can build, you can edit-move the cube where you want to be. Just don't focus your view on the cube as you try to move it lol. Is wierd to me to try to edit position that way ^.^

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Weston Graves
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08-22-2007 22:43
Thank you. I was hoping for something less obvious than sitting. It seems to me that sitting is still acknowledging the griefer is having an effect on you. Certainly I wouldn't want to walk around with some kind of gaudy special effect. That would be worse.

Maybe I'll just get in the habit of building sitting on something. That way the griefer would not even get to make me sit. I'll build something that looks like a hover chair I can zoom around larger builds. I'm sure there's something like that out there already. I have heard a lot of good things about Mystitool. Thanks.
Capella DeCuir
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08-22-2007 23:00
Try the free mystitool- it has the anti griefer functions of the expensive one and it's not very apparent that you're using it to the griefers- certainly not as much as a cube. It's also just a nifty piece of AO ^.^
Warda Kawabata
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08-22-2007 23:44
Even if you have a means to stop teh griefer orbitting you, in a public sandbox, a determined griefer has many many other ways to stop you doing what you were presumably there for.

Really, easier just to save your work, then tp to another box.
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08-23-2007 03:05
I visited a weapons/accessories creators shop sometime ago.. read a huge sign that said 'Now own the BEST sheild in SL, NOTHING can harm you when wearing this sheild etc..'.. after buying it.. I ventured around the large shop and came across another sign 'Now buy the BEST weapon in SL, it can penatrate ANY sheild....'

I IM'd the creator of the sheild and weapon and asked which one is correct.. she said 'Both are correct, as I make both, I'd be a fool to make a sheild that my weapons couldn't break!'.... DOH...
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Markubis Brentano
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08-23-2007 03:13
I have a bean bag style chair that I use when I'm building. ( I hate the broken arm look while I'm working) I don't work in sandboxes, but you could still rez the chair and have a seat while you work.

And if the build isn't overly large, why do you need to move around anyways? Just use your cam to spin around the build.
I suppose if yo udid need to move...just pick th echair up with you still sitting in it, and drag it over to the new spot.

IM me in world if you'd like a copy of the chair I use.
Qie Niangao
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08-23-2007 03:14
Hmmm... I wonder if there'd be interest in a sit target prim that took controls and pushed walking anims on the avatar when it moved, to make it look (more or less) like walking. (Or maybe that's what the MystiTool thing does already?) Would be difficult to avoid that walking-thru-walls thing, and the anims wouldn't really be sync'd--but both are kinda normal in a laggy sim anyway. ;)
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08-23-2007 03:23
I usually find "CTRL Q", go make a cup of tea, then log back in again somewhere else the best way to stop griefers annoying me.

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Hikaru Yamamoto
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08-23-2007 05:03
i use a power shield to keep me safe from orbits and traps. it has a feature that allows you to sit on an object and become non-physical. You also get animated to walk or fly so you don't appear to be doing anything.
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Yiffy Yaffle
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08-23-2007 05:31
Rezzing a cube and sitting on it will help if you don't plan on walking around. if you do want to be mobile try to grab a non physical vehicle. They will allow non physical movement so you can't be pushed while using it.
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Yuriko Nishi
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08-23-2007 06:31
or create a 10x10x0.5 box, sit on it and move it to 500 meters altitude in edit. :) (if 10x10 is to small link more boxes and move them up while sitting on them)
Day Oh
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08-23-2007 07:06
I've been using a "move lock" attachment and getting along great. It holds your avatar in place like a magnet. It has some intelligence to allow you to move as normal, as long as you began the movement yourself (using the movement keys). It defends against everything I've come up against with the exception of Blitz. Cages, bullets, foam won't move me P:

In response to this thread, I've put the attachment, called AvLock, up for sale for L$ 1 at my land in Eon. I plan to leave it at L$ 1 until the end of the month at least (: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Eon/174/123/701

Also I created something that makes people blind when in mouselook... that's pretty amusing :D It's not ready to be given away yet though.
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08-23-2007 08:33
Psyke's Energy Shield is free on slx:

http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=149976

Oop, it has zappity fx the op didn't want.
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Calveen Kline
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08-23-2007 08:52
All these gadgets become useless when you suddenly find yourself inside a cage in the middle of a store with No Build Allowed. Somehow griefers find a way to override this restriction. What to do in this case? Mystitool seems useless then.
Day Oh
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08-23-2007 08:59
That's part of the reason I advocate the Move Lock solution--it doesn't need to rez anything, and even works when scripts are disabled because it takes movement controls.
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Qie Niangao
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08-23-2007 09:04
From: Day Oh
That's part of the reason I advocate the Move Lock solution--it doesn't need to rez anything, and even works when scripts are disabled because it takes movement controls.
:confused: So... everything remains physical, right? Can one actually defend against orbital crap while physical?
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08-23-2007 09:05
From: Calveen Kline
All these gadgets become useless when you suddenly find yourself inside a cage in the middle of a store with No Build Allowed. Somehow griefers find a way to override this restriction. What to do in this case? Mystitool seems useless then.


If the no-build doesn't include no-object-entry, they can just fire the cages from the next parcel over.
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Kevyn Hienke
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08-23-2007 09:26
From: Calveen Kline
All these gadgets become useless when you suddenly find yourself inside a cage in the middle of a store with No Build Allowed. Somehow griefers find a way to override this restriction. What to do in this case? Mystitool seems useless then.


teleport somewhere else?
Calveen Kline
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08-23-2007 09:33
From: Kevyn Hienke
teleport somewhere else?


Yes, that's the easy way out. But, we're discussing how to defend yourself... or prevent been victimized.
Warda Kawabata
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08-23-2007 09:36
None of those solve the problem of the griefer who litters the sandbox you were working in with noise emmitters, or particle emmitters, or follow-me prims, or...

Really, just find another sandbox. Giving the griefers a challenge is what they want.
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Kevyn Hienke
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08-23-2007 09:40
From: Calveen Kline
Yes, that's the easy way out. But, we're discussing how to defend yourself... or prevent been victimized.


Actually original poster was discussing doing it in a sandbox, which is build capable.

As far as I know there is no way to prevent being caged initially. Once caged, you have perhaps 5 options depending on where you are:

1) Do nothing
2) Sit on something outside the cage to escape it, and potentially be caged again.
3) If you can build, rez a non-physical vehicle, sit on it and move around
4) Movelock. You won't be able to move outside the cage, but they won't be able to move you.
5) TP somewhere else.

If option 3 is not available, then I would submit option 5 is the best option to defend yourself or not be further victimized.

(and since you mentioned Mystitool in your prior post, just thought I'd mention it not only has a non-physical vehicle you can rez, it also includes movelock as well, plus many other useful tools to numerous to list here. There are also other multitools, just mystitool happens to be the one I use most.)
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08-23-2007 10:07
From: Day Oh
I've been using a "move lock" attachment and getting along great. It holds your avatar in place like a magnet. It has some intelligence to allow you to move as normal, as long as you began the movement yourself (using the movement keys). It defends against everything I've come up against with the exception of Blitz. Cages, bullets, foam won't move me P:

I often find that move lockers cause more problems then their worth. Especially the stronger ones.

The Freebie ones if they do work at all, will sometimes cause a yoyo effect if the push script is repeative. Meaning your going to be orbited multiple times.

The stronger ones (like sion's) tend to jerk you into a void when your teleport to another sim. They think you got pushed and try to jerk you back sending you into a empty sim'less area and you have to relog.
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