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Is SL a Flat World or a Round World?

Orfeu Miles
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12-23-2007 13:50
My Sl map is incomplete, at the edges it says........"There might be Dragons"

No "might" about it if you ask me.
FD Spark
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12-23-2007 17:18
When I was much newer I found a way to fly over 89000m but I didn't ever find a way to orbit the entire world of Second Life I just kept going up and up even after hour I never found where it ended.
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MarkByron Falta
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An expansive rectangle
12-23-2007 17:36
I used the grid map in the land store and it appears that the SL world is an infinite rectangle. I located region 0,0, and to it's south and west is grid point -1,-1. Going up the Y axis, I furiously clicked upward to find the upper limit but gave up after reaching 33,000. Even if 33,000 had been the top limit and negative grid points are void, that would leave room for well over 1 billion regions with over 70 Trillion SQM of land space. Considering there's around 13000 active regions, I don't think we're in danger of virtual over-population
Treacly Brodsky
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12-23-2007 21:36
From: Drivin Sideways
Pick any compass direction then and fly straight and true, never veering. If you eventually come back to your starting point, SL is curved.


I assume they (could) link the edge of one coast to the edge of another and WHAM... It's a mobius strip. As it is now, when you hit a boarder; Well, that's the end.
Sindy Tsure
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12-23-2007 21:49
You people have all lost it.

It's a path/profile cut torus. Sorta flat but a little curved and expensive to render.
Perre Anatine
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12-24-2007 04:43
It's a Hyperbolic Paraboloid..



..not to be confused with an Eliptical Paraboloid which is cup shaped with a maximum and minimum point. The Hyperbolic Parabaloid is saddle shaped, has a critical point and is doubly ruled (containing two families of mutually skew lines). A point light source at the focal point produces a parallel light beam (which obviously is why we see the same star configuration at any location throughout SL). Funnily enough (and quite fortuitously for self-hairdressing)..this also works the other way around: a parallel beam of light incident on the paraboloid is concentrated at the focal point (which is why we can see the back of our head).

Anyway..what it all means is we're all living on a giant potato chip...

Perre..:)
Jig Chippewa
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12-24-2007 09:53
Okay but is it a salt n'vinegar chip or curry-flavoured?
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12-24-2007 09:54
From: Perre Anatine
It's a Hyperbolic Paraboloid..



..not to be confused with an Eliptical Paraboloid which is cup shaped with a maximum and minimum point. The Hyperbolic Parabaloid is saddle shaped, has a critical point and is doubly ruled (containing two families of mutually skew lines). A point light source at the focal point produces a parallel light beam (which obviously is why we see the same star configuration at any location throughout SL). Funnily enough (and quite fortuitously for self-hairdressing)..this also works the other way around: a parallel beam of light incident on the paraboloid is concentrated at the focal point (which is why we can see the back of our head).

Anyway..what it all means is we're all living on a giant potato chip...

Perre..:)


Ooh Topology <drools>

/geek
Chris Norse
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12-24-2007 09:56
The real question is, does a giant tree support the world, does it rest on the back of a turtle, or is a giant naked Greek guy holding it up?
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Brenda Connolly
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12-24-2007 10:00
From: Chris Norse
The real question is, does a giant tree support the world, does it rest on the back of a turtle, or is a giant naked Greek guy holding it up?


If so, it is possible that when the Grid crashes, it could be because............................................Atlas Shrugged?
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Hiro Queso
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12-24-2007 10:00
From: Chris Norse
The real question is, does a giant tree support the world, does it rest on the back of a turtle, or is a giant naked Greek guy holding it up?




I think this is conclusive evidence not only for the SLUniverse being supported on the back of a turtle, but that also for SLBranes.
Jessica Elytis
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12-24-2007 10:07
I think the SL world is inside a completely transparent, hollow cube with no top. Sorta like a square glass.

The land is just something someone dropped into the glass which splattered everywhere.......either that or someone sneezed.

~Jessy
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Lexxi Gynoid
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12-24-2007 10:26
From: Jig Chippewa
I read a thread about the size of sl but here is a question for all to ponder - is SL a flat world or a round world? I imagine it a bit like Riverworld in the Jose Philip Farmer series of novel, a type of endless round world. Or are we a 3D Flat World? Well?

This was probably answered but my head hurts to much to read the rest of this thread.

The world does not connect. You cannot fly or the like from . . . say West until you end up at the same point you left. That is even if you could fly in the void, but that is a different issue that roundness or flatness. :)
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Treacly Brodsky
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12-24-2007 10:29
Ummm... Chips. I'd prefer if SL resided on Jalapeño chip but that's just me :cool:
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Ryan DuCasse
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12-24-2007 11:09
could SL in fact be a Void of mass - by which invisible barriers exist to transfer us to other areas? it could be flat, yes or round, yes - but a demensionless void with no "set" psysical standerds can also allow MASSIVE expansion, without the coinsequence of affecting the other land when new land is created.

its like the big bang, SL started with one server in one region, now we keep growing - like the RL universe.
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12-24-2007 11:24
From: Ryan DuCasse
could SL in fact be a Void of mass - by which invisible barriers exist to transfer us to other areas? it could be flat, yes or round, yes - but a demensionless void with no "set" psysical standerds can also allow MASSIVE expansion, without the coinsequence of affecting the other land when new land is created.

its like the big bang, SL started with one server in one region, now we keep growing - like the RL universe.


Well to compare to the big bang, the SL grid would have had to have come from the expansion of that first one server.

Hmm is it just coincidence that at about the same time we realised that the expansion of the Universe was accelerating, LL started?

Dark energy = sims. Nuff said.
Darien Caldwell
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12-24-2007 11:35
if SL was round, we would be using Polar coordinates to Teleports. 'nuff said. :p
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12-24-2007 11:38
From: Darien Caldwell
if SL was round, we would be using Polar coordinates to Teleports. 'nuff said. :p


LOL

Spherical Polar Coordinates :D
Raudf Fox
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12-24-2007 11:53
Second Life exists every where and no where all at once! It's neither flat nor round.. probably triangular, though ;)
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Har Fairweather
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12-24-2007 15:02
From: Chris Norse
The real question is, does a giant tree support the world, does it rest on the back of a turtle, or is a giant naked Greek guy holding it up?


I think Perre anatine demonstrated it is resting on the back of a giant potato chip.

At least, I THINK that is what he conclusively demonstrated.

/me wanders off looking for an aspirin becuase head hurts
Teeny Leviathan
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12-24-2007 17:10
From: Har Fairweather
I think Perre anatine demonstrated it is resting on the back of a giant potato chip.

At least, I THINK that is what he conclusively demonstrated.

/me wanders off looking for an aspirin becuase head hurts


That is not a potato chip. In the US, by law, it has to be called a potato crisp. :D
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Thormec Micheline
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No, no, no...
12-24-2007 18:46
It's a hemisphere, flat side down, like the head of some pins. And we're all angels dancing on it. How many angles can dance on the head of a pin? Ask the Lindens.
Janice Betsen
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12-24-2007 20:03
Short answer: It is flat.

Actually you can call it a flat projection of a multi-dimensional array or, if you would like, you could easily call it a linear world; a sequential string of 1's and 0's.
Lee Ludd
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It's a torus
12-24-2007 20:37
I believe it's a torus. The global coordinates are given as a pair of integers, x, y, that range from -2147483648 to 2147483647. When you get to the largest value, the next one is the smallest value. It just wraps around.
Jig Chippewa
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12-24-2007 20:55
Actually, isnt this brill? I mean, we visit a place that is multi-dimensional and metaphysical and interract there. Look, avitars - we really are on the edge of a multi-dimensional universe. Maybe we are to the real world as the opposite side of a leaf is to the branch?
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