Philip Linden's roadmap

Usually true, but if this thread gets meaty comments on it I'm sure someone will call it to the attention of a Linden or two.

Reaction to the first of Philip's monthly blog postings should be of interest to LL marketing, if no one else.

Yeah I was thinking that after I posted too actually. One can only hope

hi Sally, and thanks for the welcome

ah well, who knows, maybe one day PL will be googling his own name, and this page will come up

Re accessing web from in-world. That would be great - especially for extensions of our SL in other places like Flickr.

OMG not just a few ducks. I have a great way to cook them up. Give them a toss at me and we will have a nice little dinner.

we have heard this all before for the last 3 yrs, its the standard Pr when they start to lose people. but hopefully this time they will actually do something about.

Reading PL's post and then watching that Robbie Dingo vid (for maybe the 10th time) was an interesting experience.

Phil's post had a good melody, and a catchy rhythm. The lyrics, though started to induce waves of cynicism in me.

And so floating on waves of jaundice and bile, I clicked on the video.

2 Minutes in to this video, I cried like a little girl. I dont mean tearing up slightly...My body was wracked with sobbing. Such beauty, such vision, such artistry.

I dunno.............I was in a funny mood yesterday.

But herein lies the central paradox of SL....the reason for all the Hating/Whining about SL is that...........actually.......

We love it very much.

They read, they just don't comment.

WTF

Who here wants to log in to SL just to surf the web ?
If I want to surf the web while I'm playing SL I use AltTab to get to IE, am I just strange? or is this just another example of how out of touch the Lindens are with what is wanted from SL?

Yay! No more roadside ad farms!!!!!!!

But more spinning ones in the sky

Static displays in SL are a pain. You have to use a graphics program to make a 'texture', upload it and stick it on a prim.
Have you seen those SL in-world bulletin boards? High counts of tortured prims to get one letter per face on what looks like a flat and very limited text-only display.
Dynamic interaction with an 'information' prim has to rely on making the prim produce chat.
It's very clunky and very limited.

Seamless in-world HTML on a prim would be extremely useful.

QFT

Not the same as surfing the web from in world(as Phill is sugesting), and would be better solved by increasing the filetypes suported by the platform.

His "browse the web" is hyperlinked to
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Zero_Linden/Office_Hours/HTML_on_a_Prim_Use_Cases

You might find that page helpful. There are many very useful SL-specific applications for html-on-a-prim.
It's not about simply having a web-browser, as we have currently have TV screens, in world.

Residents have been complaining of constant daily crashing for the longest and now they're going to look into this issue? Now? This should of been addressed long ago, not now in Q4 and or Q1 of next year.

Instead of making new toys and sceneries they should of been working on major issues affecting residents.

Incredible.

It scares me a little that Philip thinks that our top priority should be web access from within SL. Why in the world would we care? I can open a browser right next to my SL interface and go anywhere on the web I want, without waiting for some texture to load in world.

This is Voice all over again...a major new feature that (almost) nobody wants.

QFT

Hey I understand why it is top priority.

There are times you really dont have much to do in SL so you click the X, log off and surf the web ...

Web on a Prim eliminates those times so you spend more time in SL ..

I don't think you're seeing the big picture here Lindal.

Remember how around the turn of the millennia all the paper manufacturers and printer makers went out of business as the last firm finally acknowledged the inevitable truth of the arrival of the "paperless office"?

Its the same thing here - there's a glorious day coming where instead of finding that CD you want to buy via a 30 second search on a flat 2D amazon website, you'll be able to spend hours walking up and down aisles in super-3D-vision, being jostled, bumped and having your musical tastes criticised by other shoppers as you vainly attempt to find the fully-rendered CD case you're looking for.

With phasers firmly set to sarcasm-overload,
Cale.

ps. I love my SL, but I wish LL would focus their energies on the things that make it unique, rather than reproducing functionality that is already available in more reliable, low-resource-requiring tools. Not every advance is such that it should completely replace all that preceeds it, often its a question of supplementation rather than replacement.

hehe QFT


In 1998 I worked for this crazy person who was a huge "Paperless office" advocate.

Ive never printed so much stuff in any job I ever had.

Our office of 5 people wore out 2 printers and 3 shredders in just a couple of years.


And he was a Micro-manager no less, so it was all at his direction!

I don't think it's so much that. The reference to education, for example, was important. HTTP-on-a-prim will mean it's no longer necessary to spend L$10 per slide on texture uploading in order to give presentation in SL. And, how about this: on the uBrowser project LL were directly trying to make sure that things like Flash plugins could still run. A single-prim vendor with an interface in Flash could be great

Really I think it's a bit of a sign that he shows Robbie Dingo's videos as a pinnacle of SL production. Don't get me wrong, I love Robbie's work and his videos are absolutely beautiful, but you can't fly around in them, and there's no human factor. They're just videos. And when you see the kind of talent Robbie has you get the impression that, if he hadn't made them in Second Life he'd have made them in LightWave. Art of that quality just doesn't _get_ held up by a lack of tools. Certainly, we should celebrate that it exists, but it isn't unique or representative of _Second Life_ - just of great art as a whole.

I think being able to seamlessly run SL and all other external web interactions within the same browser is forward thinking and efficient +++.

the other side is that spam will reach a wider audience

Well said Yumi

A fender guitar costs xxx whetrer you have talent or not

in other words its a business not a game

I don't think Rosedale's showing Dingo's videos as pinnacles of SL production. I think he chose them as poignant evocations of the dream of SL:

1. Starry nights. Van Gogh could have created the magical landscape in SL yes ... but also he could have flown off into it ... as the creator does at the end ...and LIVED THERE! The song forces the question: would Van Gogh have committed suicide if there had been a place where the dreams his mind forced on him could be enacted without threatening the people and society in which he lived? Is SL that place?

2. The faces video. This is a conscious remake of a rather old video using actual human faces, which even was morphed into a coke commercial at one point, wasn't it? I think Dingo's point here is that in SL humans can show the faces WITHIN ... a much wilder face-scape. SL enables people to express their inner selves much more directly than RL.

If these are the messages of Dingo's videos, then showing them is precisely, even inspirationally, on message with the mission statement in the first paragraph of the post.