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Marigold Devin

Ghost Hunting Is My Life

Join date: 4 Dec 2007

Posts: 145

10-18-2009 06:13

From: Vilkacis Mason

So what do I do now?

I've hopped back into Second Life yet again, after another six-month absense. And I have found I am as encouraged to stay as I was when i last left.

Past the really stupid name (Second Life), this program has potential. I like building in it. I like making new things and getting all the gears and clicks to work properly together.

But ultimately, nothing that is 'popular' in this program appeals to me. I'm not here for sex; that alone eliminates at least half the most common uses here. Nor am I here to escape reality, to pretend I am something I am not; I have a very fulfilling life and see no reason to replace it, and even if it wasn't that great that would just be good motivation to fix it and improve myself, not to replace it. I am not here to play real-time games; Second Life is actually really poor at this, any other game I could jump into would perform more efficiently and with less lag and bugs.

Given that, I'm not sure what there is to do. I'm all for meeting new people, but everyone I meet seems so engrossed in becoming some sort of alternate character. The 'Second Life' the program is poorly named after.

I hate that name. Admit to someone in 'real life' that you design models in 3d. Then admit that you code your own processes to make these 3d models move around and interact with their environment. Certainly these are a bit geeky as hobbies but still things I would feel no shame in admitting.

Now tell them "I play Second Life". The name alone suggests I am trying to escape my own life, that I'm ashamed enough of myself to try to live as someone else. It's not something I would tell anyone in public. Being a 'Second Lifer' is not something I can publicly be proud of. The name is stupid. It's all the things I DON'T want to do with this program.

So where does that leave me? I have a difficult time finding people who are not engrossed in the illusion. Anyone who is even semi-decent at constructing or being creative with the program is desperately trying to make money with it. Even my own designs, people tell me I should sell them. I do not see the point. I want to create for the sake of creating, I want to share and collaborate with people, without corrupting the end-goal via desperately marketing it. I find this is rare here.

So I suppose I seek kindred. I'm posting this and then leaving, again, as I still can't find a reason to remain. I seek somewhere that is not engrossed in the illusion, that is not desperately trying to market itself, that is truly here to create and have fun.

Let me know if you find it.

- Vil

Wow, I can't work out if you're in need of some serious mental health counselling, or just plain arrogant. But for sure I don't want you in my Second Life (and I'm wholly grateful you're not in my first one either).

Lance Corrimal

I don't do stupid.

Join date: 9 Jun 2006

Posts: 877

10-18-2009 07:37

From: Vilkacis Mason

So what do I do now?

I've hopped back into Second Life yet again, after another six-month absense. And I have found I am as encouraged to stay as I was when i last left.

- do we care?
- why did you come back?
- there's the door, don't let us hold you back
- can i have your stuff.

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From: Lindal Kidd

Those who enter any virtual world with the main purpose of making money at it...probably won't.

Rhonda Huntress

Kitteh Herder

Join date: 21 Dec 2008

Posts: 1,823

10-18-2009 08:16

http://www.parenting.org/behavior/socialskills/

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Malia Writer

Unemployed in paradise

Join date: 20 Aug 2007

Posts: 2,026

10-18-2009 10:45

From: Vilkacis Mason

condemn

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

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Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

10-18-2009 11:22

From: Vilkacis Mason

Now tell them "I play Second Life". The name alone suggests I am trying to escape my own life, that I'm ashamed enough of myself to try to live as someone else. It's not something I would tell anyone in public. Being a 'Second Lifer' is not something I can publicly be proud of. The name is stupid. It's all the things I DON'T want to do with this program.

I think that's a problem with your reaction to the name as much as with the name itself. At the very least I haven't had that reaction from anyone I've talked to SL about.

From: someone

Anyone who is even semi-decent at constructing or being creative with the program is desperately trying to make money with it. Even my own designs, people tell me I should sell them. I do not see the point. I want to create for the sake of creating, I want to share and collaborate with people, without corrupting the end-goal via desperately marketing it. I find this is rare here.

But not unknown. Look at all the stuff Arcadia Asylum made and gave away.

But whether you're trying to sell the stuff, or just giving stuff away, people who aren't interested in the "game" part of things, at some level or another, aren't going to be interested in the stuff you're doing. If you're doing it purely for yourself... if you don't care if anyone else ever sees it... go find an island somewhere and make stuff and look at it. If you're do care what other people think... well, the people who are into a "second life" are your audience.

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"And now I'm going to show you something really cool."

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Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore

Pserendipity Daniels

Assume sarcasm as default

Join date: 21 Dec 2006

Posts: 8,839

10-18-2009 12:34

Your real life must be pretty pathetic if you feel the need to keep returning to something time and again that you dislike so much.

Pep (But then, I understand some people remarry multiple times, which is even more stupid.)

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Ann Otoole

Registered User

Join date: 22 May 2007

Posts: 867

10-18-2009 15:00

From: Vilkacis Mason

So what do I do now?...

- Vil

Go make your own grid. Maybe call it Freegan Life.

Jig Chippewa

Fine Young Cannibal

Join date: 30 Oct 2006

Posts: 5,150

10-18-2009 16:19

From: Vilkacis Mason

So what do I do now?

Past the really stupid name (Second Life) ... But ultimately, nothing that is 'popular' in this program appeals to me.

I think it's prolly the problem there. You're looking at it from a combative stance. You hate teh name - and thus you hate the rest of it.

Come at it from a different way.

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Petronilla Whitfield

Registered User

Join date: 16 Jul 2007

Posts: 224

10-18-2009 17:03

Since you say that you like to build, you might find compatible folks in building groups. Perhaps consider joining something like the Builder's Brewery group.

Third or fourth time returning, still can't find my place here
Marigold Devin Ghost Hunting Is My Life Join date: 4 Dec 2007 Posts: 145	10-18-2009 06:13 From: Vilkacis Mason So what do I do now? I've hopped back into Second Life yet again, after another six-month absense. And I have found I am as encouraged to stay as I was when i last left. Past the really stupid name (Second Life), this program has potential. I like building in it. I like making new things and getting all the gears and clicks to work properly together. But ultimately, nothing that is 'popular' in this program appeals to me. I'm not here for sex; that alone eliminates at least half the most common uses here. Nor am I here to escape reality, to pretend I am something I am not; I have a very fulfilling life and see no reason to replace it, and even if it wasn't that great that would just be good motivation to fix it and improve myself, not to replace it. I am not here to play real-time games; Second Life is actually really poor at this, any other game I could jump into would perform more efficiently and with less lag and bugs. Given that, I'm not sure what there is to do. I'm all for meeting new people, but everyone I meet seems so engrossed in becoming some sort of alternate character. The 'Second Life' the program is poorly named after. I hate that name. Admit to someone in 'real life' that you design models in 3d. Then admit that you code your own processes to make these 3d models move around and interact with their environment. Certainly these are a bit geeky as hobbies but still things I would feel no shame in admitting. Now tell them "I play Second Life". The name alone suggests I am trying to escape my own life, that I'm ashamed enough of myself to try to live as someone else. It's not something I would tell anyone in public. Being a 'Second Lifer' is not something I can publicly be proud of. The name is stupid. It's all the things I DON'T want to do with this program. So where does that leave me? I have a difficult time finding people who are not engrossed in the illusion. Anyone who is even semi-decent at constructing or being creative with the program is desperately trying to make money with it. Even my own designs, people tell me I should sell them. I do not see the point. I want to create for the sake of creating, I want to share and collaborate with people, without corrupting the end-goal via desperately marketing it. I find this is rare here. So I suppose I seek kindred. I'm posting this and then leaving, again, as I still can't find a reason to remain. I seek somewhere that is not engrossed in the illusion, that is not desperately trying to market itself, that is truly here to create and have fun. Let me know if you find it. - Vil Wow, I can't work out if you're in need of some serious mental health counselling, or just plain arrogant. But for sure I don't want you in my Second Life (and I'm wholly grateful you're not in my first one either).
Lance Corrimal I don't do stupid. Join date: 9 Jun 2006 Posts: 877	10-18-2009 07:37 From: Vilkacis Mason So what do I do now? I've hopped back into Second Life yet again, after another six-month absense. And I have found I am as encouraged to stay as I was when i last left. - do we care? - why did you come back? - there's the door, don't let us hold you back - can i have your stuff. _____________________ From: Ralektra Breda Your maturity rating is directly reflected by the number of question marks you place at the end of a question. From: Lindal Kidd Those who enter any virtual world with the main purpose of making money at it...probably won't.
Rhonda Huntress Kitteh Herder Join date: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,823	10-18-2009 08:16 http://www.parenting.org/behavior/socialskills/ _____________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/thehuntress/
Malia Writer Unemployed in paradise Join date: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2,026	10-18-2009 10:45 From: Vilkacis Mason condemn "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk . _____________________
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	10-18-2009 11:22 From: Vilkacis Mason Now tell them "I play Second Life". The name alone suggests I am trying to escape my own life, that I'm ashamed enough of myself to try to live as someone else. It's not something I would tell anyone in public. Being a 'Second Lifer' is not something I can publicly be proud of. The name is stupid. It's all the things I DON'T want to do with this program. I think that's a problem with your reaction to the name as much as with the name itself. At the very least I haven't had that reaction from anyone I've talked to SL about. From: someone Anyone who is even semi-decent at constructing or being creative with the program is desperately trying to make money with it. Even my own designs, people tell me I should sell them. I do not see the point. I want to create for the sake of creating, I want to share and collaborate with people, without corrupting the end-goal via desperately marketing it. I find this is rare here. But not unknown. Look at all the stuff Arcadia Asylum made and gave away. But whether you're trying to sell the stuff, or just giving stuff away, people who aren't interested in the "game" part of things, at some level or another, aren't going to be interested in the stuff you're doing. If you're doing it purely for yourself... if you don't care if anyone else ever sees it... go find an island somewhere and make stuff and look at it. If you're do care what other people think... well, the people who are into a "second life" are your audience. _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Pserendipity Daniels Assume sarcasm as default Join date: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 8,839	10-18-2009 12:34 Your real life must be pretty pathetic if you feel the need to keep returning to something time and again that you dislike so much. Pep (But then, I understand some people remarry multiple times, which is even more stupid.) _____________________ Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
Ann Otoole Registered User Join date: 22 May 2007 Posts: 867	10-18-2009 15:00 From: Vilkacis Mason So what do I do now?... - Vil Go make your own grid. Maybe call it Freegan Life.
Jig Chippewa Fine Young Cannibal Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,150	10-18-2009 16:19 From: Vilkacis Mason So what do I do now? Past the really stupid name (Second Life) ... But ultimately, nothing that is 'popular' in this program appeals to me. I think it's prolly the problem there. You're looking at it from a combative stance. You hate teh name - and thus you hate the rest of it. Come at it from a different way. _____________________ Fine Young Cannibal
Petronilla Whitfield Registered User Join date: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 224	10-18-2009 17:03 Since you say that you like to build, you might find compatible folks in building groups. Perhaps consider joining something like the Builder's Brewery group.

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